5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003) Learn more about the 5th Generation Maxima, including the VQ30DE-K and VQ35DE engines.

2001 3.0 w/ cattman header/b pipe vs 2002 stock

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 28, 2004 | 11:53 PM
  #1  
classyi30t's Avatar
Thread Starter
Donating Maxima.org Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 37
2001 3.0 w/ cattman header/b pipe vs 2002 stock

everything else being the same(if both automagic), which would prevail? just curious...
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 05:54 AM
  #2  
Lontar1's Avatar
Puerto Rico-Maxima Lover
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,772
From: Florida
tough one..still the 02 will be really close or just little ahead of you
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 07:04 AM
  #3  
imported_JIC_A33
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
drivers race
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 07:14 AM
  #4  
MONTE 01&97 SE's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 3,750
From: Manhattan Beach, Ca / Dallas, Tx
The 02's torque advantage (the torque adavantage is just so hard to overcome/makeup with mods) will show down low over you with those mods, this should be an easy win for the 02. Overall the 3.5 just pulls much harder in just about every range vs the 3.0.
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 07:58 AM
  #5  
doublea's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 4,550
From: Montreal - Qc
Add a 35-50 shots and the stock 02 will see your bumper.

Cheers

AA
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 08:19 AM
  #6  
ihavea5spd's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 384
i don't think a bolt on AUTO 3.0 is going to win against an auto 3.5 a manual 3.0 with those bolt ons will beat an auto 3.5. But the auto 3.0 is substantially slower than the manual.
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 10:14 AM
  #7  
F23A4's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,720
From what I've seen, the auto VQ30 5G would probably need every available non-FI bolton (Cattman Y & B, UR Pulley, intake, etc,...) to run a 2k2/3 auto on open road. Even then, it still may come up short. A well driven 5MT 01 should be able to hold its own with an auto 2k2/3, though.

$.02
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 11:35 AM
  #8  
chris'smax's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,447
the 5.5 will still win
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 12:19 PM
  #9  
Ghase's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,153
From: SouthSide Jamaica Queens
I once raced my friends stock 02. On the low end he had my by half a car lenth, but on top end I had him by a half a car. So it really a drivers race.!!!!!!!!

BTW My friends car along with my car are both auto. Raced him back in spring when the air was alot better!!!!!!!!!
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 12:29 PM
  #10  
MONTE 01&97 SE's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 3,750
From: Manhattan Beach, Ca / Dallas, Tx
Originally Posted by F23A4
From what I've seen, the auto VQ30 5G would probably need every available non-FI bolton (Cattman Y & B, UR Pulley, intake, etc,...) to run a 2k2/3 auto on open road. Even then, it still may come up short. A well driven 5MT 01 should be able to hold its own with an auto 2k2/3, though.

$.02
I agree the difference between the 00/01 auto vs the 02/03 auto is a big difference, the auto 3.5 1/4 mile times are right up there with the manual 3.5's in alot of cases (reason being the auto makes better use of the 3.5's avail torque with the converter). 00/01 autos are no where near the 00/01 1/4 mile times stock.
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 01:19 PM
  #11  
F23A4's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,720
Originally Posted by Ghase
I once raced my friends stock 02. On the low end he had my by half a car lenth, but on top end I had him by a half a car. So it really a drivers race.!!!!!!!!

BTW My friends car along with my car are both auto. Raced him back in spring when the air was alot better!!!!!!!!!

With all due respect to your Max and your friends driving, I really cant think of ANY part of the powerband where the 02/03 auto can be trumped by a Y2K/2k1 auto without some SERIOUS mods.
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 01:45 PM
  #12  
atoice's Avatar
Donating Maxima.org Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 41
You're talking horses stock on the 2k2 from the 3.5 and the torque. 3.5 unless you add boost.
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 02:11 PM
  #13  
Ghase's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,153
From: SouthSide Jamaica Queens
Originally Posted by F23A4
With all due respect to your Max and your friends driving, I really cant think of ANY part of the powerband where the 02/03 auto can be trumped by a Y2K/2k1 auto without some SERIOUS mods.
I respect that. And my friend really is not all that of a driver.
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 02:21 PM
  #14  
Maximadmoiselle's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 871
Originally Posted by Ghase
I respect that. And my friend really is not all that of a driver.
There are no secrets behind driving an auto, buddy, unless you're manually shifting and I doubt you did that. It doesn't take professional skills... if your friend's 02 wasn't tuned, that might have been why. Let's say he spun on low end or launched bad, whatever. But I will have to disagree that on high end a 3.0 will beat the 3.5 by half a length, it's exactly the high end where you feel the difference.. unless your friend wasn't really trying to race you.
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 02:52 PM
  #15  
Ghase's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,153
From: SouthSide Jamaica Queens
Originally Posted by Maximadmoiselle
There are no secrets behind driving an auto, buddy, unless you're manually shifting and I doubt you did that. It doesn't take professional skills... if your friend's 02 wasn't tuned, that might have been why. Let's say he spun on low end or launched bad, whatever. But I will have to disagree that on high end a 3.0 will beat the 3.5 by half a length, it's exactly the high end where you feel the difference.. unless your friend wasn't really trying to race you.
I alway manually shift my car(even do something like double clutching). We both spun so that's no the reason. And my friends don't play when they race, good driver or not.!!!!!!! But like I said his car was stock and we only raced up too about 80mph. Even I think if we did a little more he would had pass me(over a 100mph my car is not that strong).
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 03:04 PM
  #16  
chris'smax's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,447
Originally Posted by Ghase
I alway manually shift my car(even do something like double clutching). We both spun so that's no the reason. And my friends don't play when they race, good driver or not.!!!!!!! But like I said his car was stock and we only raced up too about 80mph. Even I think if we did a little more he would had pass me(over a 100mph my car is not that strong).

Sorry dude but there is no way in hell that happened
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 03:18 PM
  #17  
Ghase's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,153
From: SouthSide Jamaica Queens
Originally Posted by chris'smax
Sorry dude but there is no way in hell that happened
How are you telling me, where you behind us when we raced????? I don't think so..... Ya'll can believe what ya'll want. I should have known I was going to get this.!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW I'am 317pounds, I do the slapping.....
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 03:29 PM
  #18  
Ghase's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,153
From: SouthSide Jamaica Queens
I better keep quiet, I feel a coming.!!!!!LOL
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 04:20 PM
  #19  
F23A4's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,720
Originally Posted by Ghase
How are you telling me, where you behind us when we raced????? I don't think so..... Ya'll can believe what ya'll want. I should have known I was going to get this.!!!!!!!!!!!
Dont take it personally. It's just that all of us have A LOT of experience and know that it would take very particular circumstances for a Y2k/2k1 to beat an 02/03 Maxima when both are automatic.

I dont doubt that you beat your friend. In individual "street" contests, anything can happen. (I walked a newer LS430 yesterday on I78-Pa from 80-120mph. It was a SSSLLLOOOOWWWW walk but I know that the LS430 tops out @ 155mph. So I have no illusion as to which car is faster.)

However, I do wonder what kind of mechanical shape your friend's Maxima was in. As a generally accepted circumstance, a non-FI auto 5G will NOT beat a stock auto 5.5G.

Peace.
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 05:02 PM
  #20  
classyi30t's Avatar
Thread Starter
Donating Maxima.org Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 37
wow, I did not expect such a heated debate, guess I will just trade-in the 2001 for a 2k2!? tks all for the info.
Old Aug 29, 2004 | 05:08 PM
  #21  
chris'smax's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,447
Originally Posted by Ghase
How are you telling me, where you behind us when we raced????? I don't think so..... Ya'll can believe what ya'll want. I should have known I was going to get this.!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW I'am 317pounds, I do the slapping.....

I hate to break it to but your friend wasn't trying to race you or his $h!t is broken. The reason i am telling you is because i had a stock 2k auto and it was no where near fast as the 3.5. I now have a supercharger along with y pipe b pipe ,test pipe ,b pipe valve body mod, and apexi safc. Now with all these mods my car i will spin the tires on the start, but there is now way in hell you spun your tires off the line unless you were power braking the hell out of it. Bottom line is the 2k auto is a freaking dog off the line and the 3.5 would ripp you a new one.

BTW I don't give a *** how much you way, if you weigh 317 sounds like you need to get off your fatt a$$ and do some jogging. And i always do the slapping biznitch
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
9aj9
7th Generation Maxima (2009-2015)
5
Apr 5, 2020 12:11 AM
GregL65
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
6
Sep 7, 2015 10:33 PM
Samedi
4th Generation Classifieds (1995-1999)
0
Sep 3, 2015 01:07 PM
Justin Kroll
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
7
Sep 2, 2015 11:06 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:29 PM.