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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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i'm ready for NOS kit...which?

Ok, so I've decided to keep the Max and not get into a more expensive car, I like it even thou the FWD frustrates me. Got the standard mods already like Intake, y-pipe, etc. but since there isnt a lot more I can do I want to install a nice quality NOS kit, no more than a 75hp shot, which kit to get?
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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dam, nobody runs NOS on this joint?
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 12:05 PM
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Most get NX.
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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NOS (no offense stupid) is for people who don't like their cars
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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NOS is a cheap mans way of going faster......personally I think NOS is retarded
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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Now, are we talking about NOS the brand, (which it should be)

Or NOS (what people who watched the fast and the furious) Nitrous oxide


"Yo, my nossy nos will nos your nos"

One of my favorite quotes from the movie.

I like ZEX as a nitrous brand personally, either that, or the Venom.
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Nos will just burn your car man. After a while of squeezing your engine wont be able to handle it. It just ages your car. Unless u make enough money to handld all the maintanance.
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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Someone from Jersey time ago post that NOs was the bigger mistake that he ever made .... I couldn't find the post, but I'm looking, to me is worthless because you said "...I've decided to keep the Max and not get into a more expensive car... ", so with that you'll end up burning your car... vrs
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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good replies, but I am actually surprised how many people are against it....I had a mustang years ago and sprayed the hell out of it w/o problems (and with much pleasure I will say)
My issue is that just about any car out there today can kik our maximas @ss, and the only way to keep up is with a lil' bit o help. how else are u going to get 75HP out of these cars with bolt-on mods?
I believe nitrous can be used safely, not running lean, overreving, etc....
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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Shot for shot NX has proven to give better times at the track compared to NOS. Do some research in the nitrous forum and you'll see why NOS isn't a good choice.

I'm a newbie when is comes to nitrous, but correct me if I'm wront but, NX has done their research using factory fuel pressure and provides appropriate jets for a certain amount of extra hp. NOS on the other hand tries to trick your computer in believing it's getting more air and has the fuel injectors spray more than factory specs to keep up.

NX costs a little more, but in my opinion is by far the best.
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiosk
good replies, but I am actually surprised how many people are against it....I had a mustang years ago and sprayed the hell out of it w/o problems (and with much pleasure I will say)
My issue is that just about any car out there today can kik our maximas @ss, and the only way to keep up is with a lil' bit o help. how else are u going to get 75HP out of these cars with bolt-on mods?
I believe nitrous can be used safely, not running lean, overreving, etc....
You are correct.

Nitrous power causes engine WEAR - RUBBISH!!!!!

Just as promised here is my lesson on engine wear related to Nitrous use.
The points listed below are ALL FACTS
They are NOT MY OPINIONS.

Point 1),
What ALL novices and many "self proclaimed experts" don't "know" or "realise" is that MOST engine wear occurs on "start up" (as any oil company will tell you), because there is NO OIL between the moving parts.

Point 2)
The second aspect of wear (for some engine components), is engine speed (rpm).
Obviously if an engine was run at 1,000rpm for a given length of time it would have 1/10th of the wear that an engine ran at 10,000rpm would have.
Most conventional tuning INCREASES the rpm at which peak power is achieved so if you use that power you will increase engine wear.

Point 3)
Nitrous is the ONLY tuning product that creates such a MASSIVE increase in "torque" and the maximum "torque" is generated at LOW to MID rpm.
Consequently if you wanted to extend engine life (REDUCE WEAR), you could do this and increase performance (at the same time), by using a Nitrous system and changing gear
at a lower rpm than without gas.
Used this way NITROUS use will result in REDUCED ENGINE WEAR.

Point 4)
The components responsible for MOST WEAR in an engine are the camshaft and followers, because they are made from the hardest materials in the engine and are subjected to the highest frictional loads / forces.
They wear at a high rate (frequently being the first major parts to need replacing).
The VERY hard particles that are produced by the wearing of these components get pumped around the engine causing accelerated wear in parts like the bottom end bearings, pistons etc.
The best way to reduce camshaft wear is to run the engine at higher rpm because the cam lobes and followers are not in contact for as long as when running at low rpm.
The faster you accelerate the engine to high rpm the shorter the time that the followers are in contact with the cam lobes.
Guess what, Nitrous accelerates (reduces) the rpm rise time and consequently reduces cam & follower wear.

Point 5)
The final BUT MOST IMPORTANT point that 99.9% of people seem to forget or overlook, is that Nitrous is ONLY used for a few SECONDS at a time. So even if ALL the
above was RUBBISH, this very short use period would have such a microscopic effect on wear that it would NOT be worth considering (which is why I don't make a big thing about Nitrous actually REDUCING engine wear).
I drive my car to work and back every day which takes about 1 hour. Lets assume (to make things simple for the likes of the odd plant life that occasionally visits our board), that wear is consistent under all
conditions (even though it's NOT). I'll probably use the Nitrous system 5 or 6 times
for about 3 to 5 seconds at a time (maximum use 30 seconds).
So in a journey that lasts 3,600 seconds the gas is used for just 30 seconds that equates to less than 1%.
The more you use your car the smaller the percentage of time the Nitrous is used.
Even if Nitrous increases wear (WHICH IT DOES NOT), a maximum of 1% does not seem worth mentioning to me!

courtesy of the noswizard
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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Awesome points Jime
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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Yea, I think Jime is right on. Dan man you ran a 12.1 with a 150hp shot on a maxima???? thats awesome, we need to hook up and talk, thats the ET's am talking about. Bring on the M3's!!!!

I will look into the NX system, but do I need a booster fuel pump if I plan to run a druy kit with 75 shot?
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiosk
Yea, I think Jime is right on. Dan man you ran a 12.1 with a 150hp shot on a maxima???? thats awesome, we need to hook up and talk, thats the ET's am talking about. Bring on the M3's!!!!

I will look into the NX system, but do I need a booster fuel pump if I plan to run a druy kit with 75 shot?
Our 5th gen maxima don't have a fuel return line. A dry kit has to have one for the fuel not used..... that is why everyone gets the wet kits. Dry has been done and another org member has a write up on how to do it, but according to him it wasn't worth it and if he could have done it again he would have just bought a wet kit in the first place.
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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You don't need to run a different fuel pump to spray 75 shot. I've been running the NX Stage 1 EFI kit for 2 years now and have yet to get any knocking, check engine lights (except for the stuff everyone else on the board gets), or leaky gaskets. 40,000 miles an no prob. But just like Jim said, you don't use it all the time. It's power on demand.

The other thing about 5th gens without the return fuel line is that upgrading the fuel pump is a major biatch. Even putting one in-line is not the most effective way to increase fuel flow. (You'll have to adjust it all the time for normal driving.) If you're really hard core, you could just run a separate fuel system for your NX fuel solenoid: fuel cell, pump, fps, etc.

Don't forget to change to stell or copper spark plugs that are 2 steps colder. NGK BKR7E is what I use.
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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dam, nobody runs NOS on this joint?

only while stoned.
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