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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 02:21 PM
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Something I've never seen on a maxima. . . (big pic)

I was thinking, I've never seen anyone do an integrated intake port on their hood. Not a scoop, but a functional intake port like I've seen on some skylines and a few BMW's. It would definitely be something a little different.

The best picture I could find.
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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That would be very cool. Mine would have to be in the fender, but for the non coldair induction systems, this would look great IMO.
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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always loved that car.....................
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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Great Pic... Although I wouldent want to cut a hole in MY hood.
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 03:28 PM
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and the flaming thread........
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ght=hood+scoop
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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wow!!! that looks sick manny
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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Well if y guys think that the Skyline is SICK, Hold on kids, cause is comming to the US in 2007. So prepare yourself for takeoff... and start saving money to get it...
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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The R34? Or the new one that looks like a G35c?
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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wow, i remember posting that pic like a year ago.... and i still think its quite ugly
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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Mmmmm R34 max =
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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I was reading the article in Automobile Magaazine.... I think is the R34, but who knowa.... Also a new Mitsu Evo is coming in 2007.... It is called the Evo X.... 340 HP and a new M3 with 400hp.... so ....I think I'm going to order my SC and see what happens... But the Skyline, I'm getting one of those... that's for sure....
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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if the r34 does come to the us, it better be a hell of alot cheaper than what moto x sells them for. im startin to save already. penny hear and a penny there.
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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340 HP evo , what the hell, cars are getting faster and faster, but gas prices are getting higher and higher. I think by 2007 gas will be like 4.00 a gallon.
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 10:06 PM
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i am not liking that at all IMO.
Old Oct 22, 2004 | 10:29 AM
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So this thread stays on topic somewhat, the new skyline will not be the R34. The Skyline is already here. The G35 is the Skyline in Japan. There is just no GT-R trim level right now. They are supposed to bring back the GT-R and bring it to America in 2007. They are also supposed to use the VQ series since they use it in just about every other car. I would hope it to be twin turbo. The RB series although strong is getting old and outdated and it has very few parts in common with other cars. It is also a pretty heavy engine for its displacement (for a modern nissan engine, not counting domestic, etc.) even though it is able to get a lot of power.

Back on topic, if you really want a hole in your hood that is fine, but for the money to make it look good, assuming it does and it most likely won't, it will not give much if any gain in hp.
Old Oct 22, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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if my maxima were a project car, i would do something like that. The ported air box has been shown as a decent method of getting more air into the engine. This would take it a step further and get cooler air. I was just saying I'm surprised that no one has done anything similar.
Old Oct 22, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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that looks like the intake on a fighter
http://www.af.mil/media/photodb/phot...-7787L-007.jpg
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Originally Posted by Lontar1
I was reading the article in Automobile Magaazine.... I think is the R34, but who knowa.... Also a new Mitsu Evo is coming in 2007.... It is called the Evo X.... 340 HP and a new M3 with 400hp.... so ....I think I'm going to order my SC and see what happens... But the Skyline, I'm getting one of those... that's for sure....
Hope you guys like paying $500 a month for car insurance

Now all the little rich high school kids who drive recklessly in their WRX's and Evo's these days will be able to drive even more recklessly with all the extra horsepower. I can't wait.

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that looks like the intake on a fighter
An F-16 isn't a real fighter . THESE are a real fighters:


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a couple more to ***** this thread....., because the F-14 is so damn bad a s s


Old Oct 22, 2004 | 05:02 PM
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For what it's worth,
it's been proven in wind tunnels that the velocity of air close to the hood is kind of low, which makes these 'close to the hood' scoops not very useful. In other words, while you will get air, it won't be under much pressure. As you move further away from the hood (higher), pressure increases, so the more effective scoops are either large or sit high above the hoodline. Also, there is more pressure close to the front lip as opposed to closer to the windshield.

That being said, the first picture looks great.. but won't be very functional. The black 5th gen that looks a tad ugly would probably force down more air, but it still looks like more of a cosmetic mod.
Old Oct 22, 2004 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
a couple more to ***** this thread....., because the F-14 is so damn bad a s s



Totaly agree, the F-14 has been my ultimate favorite since i was a tyke. It is ashame they retired such awesome machine
Old Oct 22, 2004 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
that looks like the intake on a fighter
http://www.af.mil/media/photodb/phot...-7787L-007.jpg

If you're talking about the thing behind the cockpit just above the wing, thats actually the gunport for the F-16's 20mm cannon. Now that would be an interesting mod on a Maxima.

Irish- why isn't the F-16 a real fighter? It's one of the most successful multi-role fighters ever created. I assume its some kind of bias towards the Navy?
Old Oct 22, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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haha
Old Oct 22, 2004 | 05:24 PM
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FYI the F 16 is one bad azz *****. but a real fighter is the F22 raptor air superiority fighter................

f 14 is old school


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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 05:25 PM
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Here's a cool page: http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_1071/article.html

Note that the highest pressure is where the lines squeeze together (top of the windshield) while the air closest to the hoodline loses some of its velocity due to hitting the nose of the car.


P.S. ... how do I insert a pic in my posts? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by DamNScuM
If you're talking about the thing behind the cockpit just above the wing, thats actually the gunport for the F-16's 20mm cannon. Now that would be an interesting mod on a Maxima.
He's a SSgt in the Air Force, so I'm sure he was referring to the air intake scoop below the fuselage.
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Irish- why isn't the F-16 a real fighter? It's one of the most successful multi-role fighters ever created. I assume its some kind of bias towards the Navy?
Yeah I'm just giving Jason (soonerfan) a hard time...he's a Staff Sgt. in the Air Force and I work for the Navy (and am a Navy brat)...we always go back and forth like this.

BTW the F-16 has been very successful worldwide, but that owes more to it being relatively inexpensive rather than it being superior at air-to-air combat. It's an all-around "good" platform for attack, air-to-air, fire support, etc. The F-14 was the best air-to-air fighter ever built, mostly owing to the Phoenix AAM, one of the longest-range air-to-air missiles ever made with a range of 60-100 miles (only the F-14 carried it)...The F-16 carries only the AAMRAAM, Sparrow, and Sidewinder, all much shorter range. So in terms of a true fighter, only the Russian MiG-25/31 had AAMs that could match the range (the F-14 and MiG25/31 were all built to shoot down supersonic strategic bombers - specifically the B-1 and the Russian Blackjack, which is why they were so fast - Mach 2.5 to Mach 3.1 - and carried long-range missiles). the F-16 could not even catch up to a Blackjack )

ok students, off-topic lesson is over!
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Originally Posted by WHEELMAN_03_SE
FYI the F 16 is one bad azz *****. but a real fighter is the F22 raptor air superiority fighter................

f 14 is old school


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F22 is certainly cool, but...

a little inside knowledge...the F-22 is gonna more or less get canned. It was made to replace the F-14 in strategic intercept and has a very limited anti-ground capability. Only problem is.....there's really nobody to intercept any more....the US has full air superiority with the F-15, 16, and 18 and the F-22 is basically an unneeded luxury stealing $$ away from other more useful military programs. Even the Brits are on the verge of pulling out of the F-22 partnership
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"Lockheed Martin landed a $2 billion Pentagon contract to build 22 more F/A-22 Raptor fighter jets for the Air Force, the Department of Defense said Thursday."

- http://www.f-22raptor.com/

i was hoping that the yf-23 would win the contract back in the day so that the Navy would get a new VTOL.

long live "Top Gun"

maybe in a few decades things will be like macross.... lol
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Originally Posted by ChromeSE5
"Lockheed Martin landed a $2 billion Pentagon contract to build 22 more F/A-22 Raptor fighter jets for the Air Force, the Department of Defense said Thursday."
Yeah I know they're gonna build some, but WAAAYYYY less than originally planned. I wish they would not get them at all...a useless plane that simply looks pretty....better to spend that $$ fighting terrorism or buying more useful equipment.

or, they could split the $2 billion up and give everyone in the country 5 bucks back
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Originally Posted by irish44j
He's a SSgt in the Air Force, so I'm sure he was referring to the air intake scoop below the fuselage.


Yeah I'm just giving Jason (soonerfan) a hard time...he's a Staff Sgt. in the Air Force and I work for the Navy (and am a Navy brat)...we always go back and forth like this.

BTW the F-16 has been very successful worldwide, but that owes more to it being relatively inexpensive rather than it being superior at air-to-air combat. It's an all-around "good" platform for attack, air-to-air, fire support, etc. The F-14 was the best air-to-air fighter ever built, mostly owing to the Phoenix AAM, one of the longest-range air-to-air missiles ever made with a range of 60-100 miles (only the F-14 carried it)...The F-16 carries only the AAMRAAM, Sparrow, and Sidewinder, all much shorter range. So in terms of a true fighter, only the Russian MiG-25/31 had AAMs that could match the range (the F-14 and MiG25/31 were all built to shoot down supersonic strategic bombers - specifically the B-1 and the Russian Blackjack, which is why they were so fast - Mach 2.5 to Mach 3.1 - and carried long-range missiles). the F-16 could not even catch up to a Blackjack )

ok students, off-topic lesson is over!
The capability of the F-14 of carrying the AIM-54 and its crazy radar system is offset by its huge size and it being twice the weight of the F-16. This also requires it to have the variable geometry wings for it to be competitive, but not the best, in dogfighting. Its features also kill its radar cross sect., fuel consumption and price. But I totally agree with you in that the F-14 is the best long range fighter, I'm just trying to make the point that it's in a different league compared to the multi-role F-16. Which is why the Navy and the Air Force have both an extreme air-superiority fighter with the F-14 and F-15 and a smaller but more versatile multi-role fighter with the F/A-18 and F-16. I'm just saying I wouldn't call the revered F-16 a 'fake' fighter.

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reminds me of TOP-GUN
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Originally Posted by irish44j
or, they could split the $2 billion up and give everyone in the country 5 bucks back


or develop maxima parts...

my friend who used to be an MMR at Sima 32nd Base used to make parts for his accord during work lol
Old Oct 22, 2004 | 11:49 PM
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I think the hood scoop on that 5th Gen is ugly... I'm sure someone could design something at least as functional but better looking...

Btw, thanks for the air combat tutorial guys.... the org always has its way of breaking the drudgery of a late night studying session...
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Originally Posted by zoggfatha
I was thinking, I've never seen anyone do an integrated intake port on their hood. Not a scoop, but a functional intake port like I've seen on some skylines and a few BMW's. It would definitely be something a little different.

The best picture I could find.
pardon my ingnorance, but what happens when it rains (considering the the scoop is over/near the air filter)?
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Originally Posted by DamNScuM
If you're talking about the thing behind the cockpit just above the wing, thats actually the gunport for the F-16's 20mm cannon. Now that would be an interesting mod on a Maxima.

Irish- why isn't the F-16 a real fighter? It's one of the most successful multi-role fighters ever created. I assume its some kind of bias towards the Navy?
ummm well..i was actually talking about the BIG @SS INTAKE UNDER THE FUSELAGE...but thank.

and i didnt post the F-16 to say that it was a better fighter..i did it cause its intake looks like that hood scoop. the F-15 is the best air-to-air fighter. as far as multi-role...the f-16? ha ha ha neither even come close to the F-15E Strike Eagle.
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Originally Posted by irish44j
a little inside knowledge...the F-22 is gonna more or less get canned.
ummm no its not.
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Originally Posted by zoggfatha
I was thinking, I've never seen anyone do an integrated intake port on their hood. Not a scoop, but a functional intake port like I've seen on some skylines and a few BMW's. It would definitely be something a little different.

The best picture I could find.
That is a NACA Duct on that Skyline.

NACA duct: This is an air opening which was named after the National Advisory Committee for Aerodynamics. It was the American organization which developed the kinds of designs for low drag air ducts for jet engines. NACA ducts are used on cars to force air for engine breathing and cooling, for forcing air through the radiators, and for providing fresh air for the passenger compartment

all GTR-34 V-spec IIs have this NACA duct to aid in cooling the engine and twin turbos.
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can people stop quoting the original post!!
there is no reason to have that HUGE picture on here 10 times.
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Or at least delete the [IMG] part...
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
can people stop quoting the original post!!
there is no reason to have that HUGE picture on here 10 times.
relax buddy. or change your screen resolution from 800x600 to something bigger...



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