Well, just wondering if the AE will stand a chance against the S4. I know the S4 is pretty wussy, but the guy isn't afraid to die........

 

from wut i remember.. s4s haul ***...

 

I would goes as far to call it wussy. They are pretty nice. My lame **** manager bought one about 6 months ago. They can squeeze alot of HP out of 2.7L. If I had to guess, I would say the S4 would beat, hands down, a AE. Pure stock of course.

 

for the S6, I think the AE will be good?

 

The AE doesn't have a chance against a manual S4.

 

not even auto.. if they made one

 

I must admit that S4's are very fast cars. I used to be a technician for a Porsche/Audi dealer. I can't say much for the other Audi's but a S4 is quick. Last time I saw a S4 at the track he blasted a 13.6 @ 100+ with just an intake and exhaust.

 

the s4 isn't a wussy car....it will murder a AE.

 

where r u coming from?

u'll b walked 20 times out of 10 ... u don't stand a fricken chance

those things r lighter than our cars ... & r 250 hp stock ...

i still can't believe it ...

 

i think the s4 will beat the ae, however....not by THAT much.

 

lol .. my butt dyno when I was in it mite b exaggerating ... but I honestly think 10 times outta 10 .. it'll beat our car

 

they accelerate reeeeeal fast. my freind has a s4 in red, nice frokin car.

 

Heh... purchase a 2002 altima, and then race him...

**sigh**

--> I still love my max unconditionally.. I keep telling myself it's not all about speed... <--


-Tom z.

 

No chance... don't try racing unless you like to lose (twisties and straight line).

 

Um the 6 speed S4 has 250 hp and AWD. 0-60 in the mid 5s. Any stock max is toast. Probably even to an auto S4. If it's chipped, give up and go home you haven't got a chance.

 

is a m3 wussy?? haha

 

heh... purchase the 2002 maxima, and then race him.

 

Umm... no,... for some insane reason, i think the 2002 altima will end up being faster...


I'm certainly no expert, but I think Nissan is aiming to make the Maxima Big, Comfy, and squishy... (as opposed to the mean 4-door machine it is today)... Let's face it... if I had to make a wild prediction... i would predict that most of the enthusiasts on this board will NOT buy another Maxima.... :-(

-Tom Z.

Ps.. perhaps you can convince the guy in the audi to drive in reverse??

 

Why will it be faster??? 265 in the maxima to 245 in the altima? All its going to be is a 5th gen SER with a bigger engine.

And,I dont understand? Why wouldnt anyone buy another maxima? Every damn person here is anxious for a 2K2. And why wouldnt anyone buy one anyway? Our Maxima owners must be the most critical owners here. Sure the 2000 isnt quite up to par with other Maximas, but it is still pretty damn good quality. I dont hear anyone saying that their car is dying. "Oh Wow, my auto maxima has Shist slippage! Its a POS!" Well here is advice. Stop flooring it one hundred percent of the time. A fricken camry will do the same if you drive it like a police car. I dont really floor it too much. I push it down, but not all the way, maybe once every 2 days. My maxima still shifts slow, but VERY rarely. And any way, take the fricken car to the dealer. Thats why they have a TSB, so you can fix the problem. "Oh, some 2K1's get sand in their tanks!" My advice to that, check out every other manufacturers cars. You'll be bound to find a lot of other cars with the same problem. "Oh, my maxima has a little noise, when driven at 75, coming fron the b pillar!" My advice, drive another car.

Stop talking like the maxima is the worst car on the road!

 

An S4 has a 2.7 twin turbo, rated @ 250 HP @ 5800RPM and 258 lb-ft @ 1800RPM (that is NOT a typo!). Drop a chip into it (500$) and you are up to 310-320 HP. Isn't life fun when your car comes with *****!

Unless your Max has *****, listen to MC Hammer, can't touch this!

 

One chip can up the HP by 50-60? I knew they can increase perforance, but I didn't think they could do that much. Sounds like a sweet deal to me.

 

how about a Prelude SH VS Maxima?


Now I am talking about racing in a 30mph zone with tons of twist and cliffs.

Maxima:
17" stock wheel + tires
RSB + FSTB
Differential
K&N
RE92


Prelude SH:
16" stock wheel + tires
FSTB
Koni shocks + Eibach
K&N
4 wheel steering
differential
RE92


Again, the guy in the Prelude is ready to die.....

Who should win?

 

Yep, go check the S4 boards. Everyone talks about 310-320 HP with just the chip. If I am not mistaken it chages that max pressure before the blow-off valve blows-off.

 

Man, I wish it was that easy for a Maxima.

 

Like I said, it's easy to do some decent mods when the plumbing is already there.

Another one to look out for are mods to the WRX, that thing is going to be whack @300+ HP.

Another way to look at this is to say that the difference in price between the Max and S4 you can add a supercharger to the Max and have some fun for less than the Max.

 

I was told that the Audi A4 1.8T engine is capable of 220hp with just a chip also. With filter and exhaust, the potential is even bigger!

 

You only get those kind of gains when chipping a turboed engine. Most of the gains come from raising the max pressure from the turbo.

 

Ahh.... you misconstrue my words... I never said my/our car(s) were POS, i just said that i doubt many on this board will buy a "Maxima" once Nissan is finished with the transition...

#1.. 240 in altima vs 260? in maxima does not mean much... First of all, the 260 is NOT yet confirmed, so nobody knows for sure.. You have to contend with the fact, that bigger engine means heavier car in Nissan language... (Prime example, transition from 4th to 5th gen)... I agree that the 2002, and possibly 2003 maxima will hit the sweet spot.. (same platform as our maximas' + bigger engine = win win situation)... However, once the platform changes to a full-sized sedan, it's curtains for the max... big, heavy, squishy handling, and neutered as not to undercut Infiniti sales.. Am I missing something.. As I said, I doubt any of the "enthusiasts" on this board will go out and buy a friggin' land boat just because it says Maxima on the back... If any decide to stick with Nissan performance, it's a toss up btw. altima and z from 2003 on...

Btw.. HP alone do not a good car make... And if the Altima ends up costing as much as a current max (remember nissan plans to price it in accord/camry range), then perhaps the new Maxima will not be worth the price tag... Right now I can think of several other cars I would love to drive if the price were right.. But as it stands, the Max is a killer value...


-Tom

PS... where did I say that Maxima was the worst car on the road?? look through my posts, i believe quite the opposite!!! AND I have NEVER complained about build quality!!! Viva Maxima!!!

 

Maybe the S4 will race you while he's in reverse. Then you might have a chance.

 

 

Sounds like they really got you going but you are exactly right. I have made similar posts and I also believe the new Max will be great and plan to purchase one with the only other consideration being a high end BMW 3 series, but I am heavily leaning toward the Max. I also think 2002 Altima owners should be applauded when they purchase their vehicles because they will have a serious performer one that will definitely not be far less than a Max.

 

Glad to to you are still posting!

 

Are you on crack????

S4 is 250hp, AWD TT.

Stage I mods (exhaust and chip, basically) give 300+hp and 350lb-ft+ of torque. You don't f*ck with that.

It will eat stock or mildly modded Maximas for breakfast, and I don't care if the Maxima is a gen5 with VLSD and a 280hp VQ35DE with a 6-speed. (now if your idea of a mildly modded Maxima is a supercharger, you live on a different planet than I do )

 

WTF, squishy handling, land boat?????
It is going to be the same fricken maxima with a bigger engine? The altima has a bigger engine too. Does it have squishy handling, is it a land boat? Are you saying that everyone here has a land boat? The engine is coming with the currrent maxima. Im not talking about racing an S4 with the bigger maxima. Whats wrong with big cars? They dont all have squishy handling. The new q45 doesnt have squishy handling.

 

Thanks. Enjoy it while it lasts!

 

I would not put a 2002 Q45 against a chipped S4, The S$ will jsut have a laugh. (it must weigh 300-600 LBS less)

But it's to each his own. Some people want boats, some want fast boats, some want small bombs, some what mid range cruise missles.

 

Good point! Too bad no one said anything about putting a 2002 q45 against a chipped s4, or an s4 of any kind.

 

You talked about it "the bigger Maxima", or am I drunk?

 

Umm... Nissan is planning on putting the max up against lower-end luxury-oriented models, like the avalon... 2003 will MOST LIKELY be the last year for the mid-sized sedan maxima platform.. (READ MY PREVIOUS POST)... As i said, 2002 and 2003 will be the last real performance years for the Maxima... A bigger engine, in the current max body will create a rocket indeed.. After that, it's all over, and Maxima becomes a land boat... Big, comfy, and SQUISHY!!!

I've heard speculation of 6 spd, etc. Max's... if you think for one second that Nissan's gonna put out a 6spd max, w/ stiff SE-like springs out to compete with something like an avalon, you better lay off the chronic...


-Tom

 

You said to get a 2K2 altima and race an s4. I said get a 2K2 maxima and race him. Of course w/ both you will still lose, but all I said was a 2K2, which will be a 5th gen maxima. I didnt say 2K3, 2K4, 2K5, 2K6 or anything else. A 2K2 5th gen SE will have to get at least 265 horse's OR MORE, or there is no point in putting an SER maxima in production w/ a 245 horse Alty . Correct? So this puts the "Alty will be faster" point to die. Thats all I said. I wasnt talking about the bigger future maxima. And the 6 speed maxima rumor is also with the 5th gen! the current one! Not the bigger, future one. So yes I can see a 6 speed 5th Gen SER if there is a 6 Speed Sentra SER. And the 5th gen does not compete w/ any Avalon. It competes with Camrys and accords. Get your facts straight. The SER w/ the bigger engine, and the 6 speed is rumored to be a midsize 5th gen. Not a big, squishy Maxima s you think. You brung up the Future next gen Maxima when no one else had.