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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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Rear Strut Tower bar

Is there a rear strut tower bar available for the 2003? I couldn't find a "how to" on installation. If so, what are the recommendations? Thanks
Old Nov 29, 2004 | 06:34 PM
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Here is a write up that I followed from a org member.
http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...=224200&page=8.
Old Nov 29, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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Its rare because it apparently doesn't do a whole lot for the Maxima except take up trunk space. You'd be better off going with a rear sway bar (RSB) and the FSTB.... just what I've learned on the .org....

You can get RSBs from Stillen, Progress, Addco, to name a few... and FSTBs from Stillen, Otto, eBay (I have one and they're fine), and other places....
Old Nov 29, 2004 | 11:10 PM
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how about 4th gens?
the 5.5 gens have those brackets around the strut towers that is why the strut bar is not needed.
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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You can pay $$$ to Stillen for a rear strut tower bar. Or you can contact delubozparts at deluboz@aol.com for a generic one for $30 + $15 shipping. They auction that bar on eBay from time to time.

Getting the rear anti-sway bar is more effective than the RSTB, but for less than $50 and if you don't mind something in your trunk partially blocking the access from the trunk to the cabin, then you might want to consider it.

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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 07:30 AM
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Not sure what the point is to have them... I have been looking into them, but not sure if the cost is worth it...
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 07:32 AM
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you guys wanna hear something funny. i bought a custommaxima fstb and stillen rsb (yea i paid that much) LAST YEAR....like literally, last november i received them. they've been sitting in my garage for a year and saturday i JUST put them on. all i can say is wow. the fstb just tightens up the front in hard turning but the rsb makes the night/day difference. of course all you guys know but i'm just tellin bladerunr

but if you have crap tires you'll lose traction on hard turns since the car stays so flat and your rear might slide out. my falken stz's (they're lo pro TRUCK tires) don't have good traction for this kinda stuff, they're made to last up to 60k miles or something
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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my max still doesnt have any suspension mods to it except H&R springs.
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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heh...three words: LOWER TIE BAR
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
heh...three words: LOWER TIE BAR
mine's been sitting since the opening GD...its going on this weekend...ohh man

yea...FSTB and RSB...first priorities
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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Geez, what a waste of a good mod, you fools with RSBs sitting in your garage can send it over my way.... I'll put it on within an hour of receiving it....
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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i think the front end is stiff enough and there is no point for the ltb
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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well nissan thinks the entire car is good enough for production...so no need for FSTB, RSB...or anything for that matter

its all a matter of preference. some people think its good enough...others cant get enough
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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I know you can use the bar from a fstb and the brackets from a rstb from a sentra for 4th gens but I don't think they will fit 5th gens. I wouldn't spend a lot of money on one. I just like posting in the 5th gen forums whenever I can.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33591
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
i think the front end is stiff enough and there is no point for the ltb
actually, there IS a point, apart from "stiffness". You see, the STOCK maxima setup gives the car some slight understeer. Slight understeer is the "safest" setup for a car, especially in emergency maneuvering because it keeps the tail in. When you add the RSB, it switches the suspension balance and makes the car oversteer. This is a less-stable condition. The FSTB will have little effect on correcting this issue, except in high speed cornering perhaps. The LTB acts as a "counterbalance" you could say....With the Stage II LTB, RSB, and FSTB the car once again has the *slight* understeer that is the ideal setup (very close to balanced).

vsamoylov...have you atuallyl USED the LTB? If so, then my apologies for telling you what you already know. If not, then you really have no basis to say that there is "no point for the ltb". There is a logical (and safe) point to it.

The LTB does not make the ride feel "stiffer" it simply reduces body roll, makes steering more responsive, and generally improves the handling of the car.

...but if there is "no point" in any of those things....well, enjoy your suspension without it...your car, not mine. I'll keep my LTB on.
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
well nissan thinks the entire car is good enough for production...so no need for FSTB, RSB...or anything for that matter

its all a matter of preference. some people think its good enough...others cant get enough
try out your car with before yous ay something like that. you don't even have a se.........
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
heh...three words: LOWER TIE BAR
how do you like yours? what stage do you have?
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:55 AM
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judging from all the posts hes made about them, i'd say he loves his, with that being an understatement ...oh, and i think he has a Stage II if I'm not mistaken...
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 03:40 AM
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im really interested in the sfcs cuz i'm loving the stillen rsb and custommax fstb
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ighettoboyi
how do you like yours? what stage do you have?
Quoted from Irish's post above... "With the Stage II LTB, RSB, and FSTB the car once again has the *slight* understeer that is the ideal setup (very close to balanced)."

So yeah, I think he's implying that he has the Stage II... since it sounds like he's speaking from experience...
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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he has blehmco ltb, we're talkin about warpspeed sfc's. don't try to make me look stupid by quoting something directly above my posts. i know how to tie my own shoes
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ighettoboyi
he has blehmco ltb, we're talkin about warpspeed sfc's. don't try to make me look stupid by quoting something directly above my posts. i know how to tie my own shoes
Geez... I was trying to help, not make you look stupid, I didn't know for a fact what Irish had so I was thinking out loud to come to a conclusion.... what is it with you people these days? And you only posted about a SFC 2 POSTS LATER... I responded to your post at 3:42am that looked like this:

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Originally Posted by irish44j
heh...three words: LOWER TIE BAR


how do you like yours? what stage do you have?


Doesn't that look like you were asking about a LTB? Besides, Stealthy said the same thing I did, but didn't lay it out....

It looks like YOU are trying to make ME look stupid here, buddy.
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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Btw, its pretty obvious that Stealthy was referring to Irish's posts about his LTB, and not a SFC... so who is the "we" that are talking about SFC's? Sorry if I'm missing something here.... and once again, not trying to pick a fight, but trying to clarifying things posted previously....
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 08:45 AM
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Ok... everybody stop tryinig to make everybody else look stupid. I'll do the job for you and make myself look stupid by asking a really dumb question.

I know what FSTB, RSB, and LTB stand for, because I've installed all of those on my Sentra. I'm just starting to mod my Maxima, though. What does SFC stand for?
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 08:49 AM
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SFC = Subframe connectors

More info here:

http://www.warpspeedperformance.com/sfcgen5/sfcgen5.htm

Quote from a website I found through Google with a nice summary:

Subframe connectors are designed to stiffen the chassis significantly. The long wheelbase and chassis design of the Maxima makes it prone to flexing, especially with an aftermarket suspension. Improves handling greatly, especially with cornering predictability when used with a rear sway bar. This modification will also reduce and almost eliminate chassis squeeks and rattles. Ride quality will be about the same or slightly smoother due to the impacts being directed into suspension instead of the chassis.

Hope that helps....
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 09:14 AM
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i have a stillen rsb which i bought used from an orger for $100 sitting in my trunk....wait till chrismax to put it on..
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
SFC = Subframe connectors

More info here:

http://www.warpspeedperformance.com/sfcgen5/sfcgen5.htm

Quote from a website I found through Google with a nice summary:

Subframe connectors are designed to stiffen the chassis significantly. The long wheelbase and chassis design of the Maxima makes it prone to flexing, especially with an aftermarket suspension. Improves handling greatly, especially with cornering predictability when used with a rear sway bar. This modification will also reduce and almost eliminate chassis squeeks and rattles. Ride quality will be about the same or slightly smoother due to the impacts being directed into suspension instead of the chassis.

Hope that helps....
Yup, get the stage-1 first and see how you like it. The SFCs will alter the overall dynamic of the Maxima ride (speaking from experience).

P.S. I am for the rstb also, FYI.
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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I have the Stage II LTB, FSTB, and RSB...but man, I really want SFC..They're not that expensive, but it's obviously something I can't just do myself. How much would it cost to get them installed???
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaHotness2k
I have the Stage II LTB, FSTB, and RSB...but man, I really want SFC..They're not that expensive, but it's obviously something I can't just do myself. How much would it cost to get them installed???
The stage one is around $50-$60 installed.
Hey ThaHotness2k, I used to live in Herndon...now reside in Sterling area across from the police station. If you want to check out my ride w/the SFCs...IM me.
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
Btw, its pretty obvious that Stealthy was referring to Irish's posts about his LTB, and not a SFC... so who is the "we" that are talking about SFC's? Sorry if I'm missing something here.... and once again, not trying to pick a fight, but trying to clarifying things posted previously....
yes i was referring to Irish's LTB, only because that is what I thought he was asking about, especially after he quoted Irish's post about having a State II LTB. I wasn't trying to pick a fight in any way, just trying to clarify things as I think Puppetmaster was also trying to do. It's an internet forum, don't take trivial things to heart.
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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I got the 5th gen RSTB from ebay and did some modifications to make it fit my 4th gen. Its more of a cosmetic mod on a 4th gen, but since you have folding rear seats it will help.
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by steaLthyMax
yes i was referring to Irish's LTB, only because that is what I thought he was asking about, especially after he quoted Irish's post about having a State II LTB. I wasn't trying to pick a fight in any way, just trying to clarify things as I think Puppetmaster was also trying to do. It's an internet forum, don't take trivial things to heart.
Exactly what I was thinking.... thanks for the confirmation and clarification, Stealthy... that's twice today...
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I love being in the "quoted" line of so many posts

ok guys, calm down - I will clarify:
-I have the Stage II LTB
-There is no way I would ever take it off, it is that much of an improvement.
-Joel, I thought I showedyou the LTB when I was over at your place

the ONLY downside to the LTB is loss of about 1 to 1 1/2" of ground clearance under the tranny. No big deal though...I have yet to scrape it on anything (except a big piece of styrofoam that was in the road ) Otherwise, it's all improvement, especially when combined with the RSB.
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
-Joel, I thought I showedyou the LTB when I was over at your place
Ya did... I just wasn't sure of the stages and what yours was (I, II, III, or MCXXIV), although ya probably told me too...
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JSutter
I got the 5th gen RSTB from ebay and did some modifications to make it fit my 4th gen. Its more of a cosmetic mod on a 4th gen, but since you have folding rear seats it will help.
This has been discussed so many times and I always positioned myself to be the one supporting this relatively cheap mod.

FYI:
The rstb will reduces any flexing from the rear suspension. You can really notice its effect when hit a pothole or road bump (more noticeable if you're a passenger in the back). It'll "nicely" subdue the unwanted vibration, which help smooth out the ride quite a bit. Performancewise, it's no near in comparision to the rsb's especially when installed in the 4th & 5th gen Maxima w/the so called "multi-link" beam suspension.
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Rstb..............

I have a Stillen FSTB, RSTB & "had" a Stillen RSB longstory need another bar not the brackets . Any way I just truley believe that if you change your Tires for perfromance Tires & put on performance lowering Springs, change your Shocks & Struts , put on a FSTB & a RSB you might as well complete the box & put on a RSTB. You have easly dropped a $1000 on your suspension allready for the best ride possible. Whats another $50 bucks & a half hour of your time? My 2 cents
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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Hey guys, I have cattman FSTB, RSB, Stage II LTB, D2 Coilover ridding on 235-40-17 and my car is on freakin rail. Near my office there is at tunnel entrance that make like a 1/8 mile curve, if you sit next to me when I take this curve, I sware your going to hate me but if we do the drive again and you drive then a big big smile will come on your face, now try to translate that into physics and scientific words if you want.

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Originally Posted by Kevon1
you might as well complete the box & put on a RSTB.
ah...but if you are truly going to "complete the box" you would need LTB and SFC's as well as previously discussed.
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