whats the diff between 5.5gen vq and 350z
#1
whats the diff between 5.5gen vq and 350z
hey. Im Going to buy a 5.5 gen. I know that it runs on the same vq35de which is the Same motor as the 350z and g35. I looked under both hoods and it seems to me that the 350z has a bigger intake and throttle body.(im no expert) Is that the only thing that gives the 350z that extra 32 hp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????
Maybe nissan is just under rating the 5.5gens. And the reason for the slower times is the weight, heavy rims, and the lesser traction from a front wheel drive vehicle?
I want to fix it up, like the rest of the enthusist sp? here on the ORG. The maxima should be able to start out/get the same power/ gains as a 350z. What does it take to make the max 350z equivlant. IM not talkin about okay add ypip and cai. okay now we have about the same hp at the crank as a 350z, but what if u put ypip and cai on the 350z? now the 350z will still be ahead in power. I know the 5.5 gen can start out at that 287 or even 300 for that matter. since the new ae 350z will have that much. I Dont want to get started with less power than I have to.
Thanks again.
Maybe nissan is just under rating the 5.5gens. And the reason for the slower times is the weight, heavy rims, and the lesser traction from a front wheel drive vehicle?
I want to fix it up, like the rest of the enthusist sp? here on the ORG. The maxima should be able to start out/get the same power/ gains as a 350z. What does it take to make the max 350z equivlant. IM not talkin about okay add ypip and cai. okay now we have about the same hp at the crank as a 350z, but what if u put ypip and cai on the 350z? now the 350z will still be ahead in power. I know the 5.5 gen can start out at that 287 or even 300 for that matter. since the new ae 350z will have that much. I Dont want to get started with less power than I have to.
Thanks again.
#3
www.my350Z.com for more info.. ask the same question and you're gonna be laughed at. See what those babies are running stock, I think Montes97&01 ran a flat 14s and he has an auto. One engine is designed for a RWD sports coupe, the other.. you know.
#4
Originally Posted by cobymoby
heads, headers, exhaust, intake manifold, ECU program. It is the same block, but they are fairly different.
#6
In addition to the obvious differences in the intake and headers/exhaust, the 350Z also has a different ECU program, and AJSince81 is right about the cams being different. You can't bolt 350Z headers on the engine in your Maxima, because the Maxima's VQ is turned 90 degrees (it's sideways, so the headers mount front and rear), while the 350Z's VQ is mounted so that the headers mount left and right. You can replace the stock exhaust manifolds with aftermarket headers that flow better, though. As for the ECU, JWT can reprogram it based on what mods you have. JWT can also help out with the cam situation, since they have aggressive cams that can be installed in almost any VQ from the Altima to the Z.
This is only a TINY bit of the stuff you can do to get your Maxima a little closer your 350 dream, but it won't get you all the way there. Remember that the launching and handling characteristics of your car will always be different. I'm not saying that you can't make your car handle well. I'm just saying that even if you get it handling superbly, it won't ever be exactly the same as a RWD coupe like the 350Z.
If you want some VQ modding tips on a car that is similar to your Maxima (at least... more similar than the 350), check out the Project Altima 3.5SE on www.nissanperformancemag.com.
This is only a TINY bit of the stuff you can do to get your Maxima a little closer your 350 dream, but it won't get you all the way there. Remember that the launching and handling characteristics of your car will always be different. I'm not saying that you can't make your car handle well. I'm just saying that even if you get it handling superbly, it won't ever be exactly the same as a RWD coupe like the 350Z.
If you want some VQ modding tips on a car that is similar to your Maxima (at least... more similar than the 350), check out the Project Altima 3.5SE on www.nissanperformancemag.com.
#8
Originally Posted by 2kMike
so it is possible for the maxima in the 5.5 to have the same or end up close to the same amount of power as the 350 all modded out?
Thanks again
Thanks again
#9
Originally Posted by 2kMike
so it is possible for the maxima in the 5.5 to have the same or end up close to the same amount of power as the 350 all modded out?
Thanks again
Thanks again
#10
fastest NA 3.5s run pretty much same or even better times than the fastest NA 350s. Cams are the same on the 287HP 3.5L, the intake manifold and ECU program is the biggest difference between the 2 motors. 350s dyno at around 240WHP and its really hard to get power out of them, exhausts and headers don't gain as much power as Maximas or Altimas do. Most powerfull FWD 3.5s are in the 250s WHP. I recall seeing one 350 making 270WHP. They weight about the same vs 5th gen, so its practically a drivers race.
#11
Originally Posted by 2kMike
so it is possible for the maxima in the 5.5 to have the same or end up close to the same amount of power as the 350 all modded out?
Thanks again
Thanks again
I think the thing that you may be overlooking is handling. Even if you can match or beat a 350 in a drag race, your Maxima is going to need a lot of suspension work before you can keep up in the curves. If drag racing is all you care about, then I guess you don't need to worry about it that much (maybe stiffer springs and shocks for better launches). If you want your car to be able to handle effectively and safely as you increase its power, you should start tweaking its suspension.
#16
Originally Posted by 2kMike
Does it make a difference weather its a cattman, stillen, or a no name brand rsb and fstb?
#17
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i chose the stillen adjustable rsb over the addco and other ones because i think i initially read peoples' posts saying if you do a sloppy job with the other ones you get clunking or something like that. either way i don't regret paying the extra $$ for the stillen, perfect fit, high quality, does what it's supposed to do
#18
If you're that worried about flat out acceleration and 1/4 mile time, get an STI. I love my Maxima as much as anybody, but there's a lot more to owning a maxima than drag racing and hp numbers. It's a 3100lb sedan (with stripped trunk).
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