Rattle Noise when started cold 03' max
#1
Rattle Noise when started cold 03' max
Hey guy lov my max but this noise wont stop. need some help. I have found the TSB in the forums and had the dealer look at it. the TSB NTB03-060 stated the noise is from the VTC (Valve Timing Control) sprockets. so the first time they replaced the left sprocket. then the noise still happend so they replaced the right VTC sprocket. but its still happening...Does anyone know the lemon laws in Illinois (Chicago) b/c im planning on taking it in again but i just dont know how to tell them either fix this problem or give me another car. knowing nissan i dont think they will do anything unless i have something reallllyyy good to back myself up with.
#2
what kind of oil filter are you using? cuse the nissan filter and i believe Wix(im going to check that right now) have a check valve(one way valve) in them so that the oil lines hold there pressure. I think the noise you are hearing is the slack in the timing chain do to lack of oil pressure. I have my max at the dealer right now for that noise and some hesitation and the service manager asked me about the kind of filter i use. Hope it helps.
#4
jimmycapp, I got my last oil change at the nissan dealer so im sure they used a nissan filter. what year max do you have? and does your noise happen for like a second during a cold start too?
BlackBIRDVQ, I will give that a shot on my back back home from work today ..i hope it doesnt make that noise. will let you know.
thanks
BlackBIRDVQ, I will give that a shot on my back back home from work today ..i hope it doesnt make that noise. will let you know.
thanks
#6
Oil-starved hydraulic lifters? Does this happen the next time you start it after you ran the engine for a minute or less? Mine (VQ30DE) does not like being driven into the garage from the driveway, especially now that's cold. I got to drive around the block to make sure next time I start it there's no lifter clatter.
#9
Originally Posted by CCS2k1Max
Timing chain tensioner?
It should be gone very quickly...one second, 1.5 seconds maximum....any longer than that and it's not normal.
Mitigate it with the right oil filter (with an anti-drain-back valve) and oil of the correct viscosity. In cold weather, should be 10W30, preferably 5W30. I use both and the thrashing lasts less than a half-second.
#10
It could also be caused by one of the timing control sprockets.
Here is the TSB link.
http://www.nissan-techinfo.com/nissan/TSB/Oct/54333.asp
Here is the TSB link.
http://www.nissan-techinfo.com/nissan/TSB/Oct/54333.asp
#12
jimmycapp, I got my last oil change at the nissan dealer so im sure they used a nissan filter. what year max do you have? and does your noise happen for like a second during a cold start too?
#16
Originally Posted by Galo
Now we're talking. It's exactly that, a loss of pressure in the tensioners that cause that brief 'thrashing' noise.
It should be gone very quickly...one second, 1.5 seconds maximum....any longer than that and it's not normal.
Mitigate it with the right oil filter (with an anti-drain-back valve) and oil of the correct viscosity. In cold weather, should be 10W30, preferably 5W30. I use both and the thrashing lasts less than a half-second.
It should be gone very quickly...one second, 1.5 seconds maximum....any longer than that and it's not normal.
Mitigate it with the right oil filter (with an anti-drain-back valve) and oil of the correct viscosity. In cold weather, should be 10W30, preferably 5W30. I use both and the thrashing lasts less than a half-second.
I will have to talk to my dealer about this the next time i go in for a oil change. dont you think they would use the correct filter and oil for max at a nissan dealer?
#17
I wasnt trying to be an ***. Sorry!!... I meant on my 2k3, it does it briefly during cold start up. Unusual yes! Uncommon NO.
When my buddy started his G35C, and it rattled, i started laughing because he was wondering what that was too!!....
When my buddy started his G35C, and it rattled, i started laughing because he was wondering what that was too!!....
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