F23A4

That's from VTEC YO!!!

GBAUER

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Ya, but the NOS sticker will give me 250 hp! Just wait till I add the 6 ft wing on the back of my FWD car! That should help me hook up my front tires more at 20 mph and above!

GBAUER

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I thought Honduh published it somewhere

F23A4

I'll sell you an ironing board.

GBAUER

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Cool! The max will start to take it's styling cues from the WRX (not that I have anything against the WRX. It's my next car, afterall...)

SilverSixth

C'mon man, That's absurd!!

026speedmax

GBAUER, and who ever else wants to run, the track is located in zip code 07838. See how far that is from your place and whoever is serious about some runs post or pm me so i can get a count of racers. Maybee we can get a winter run in...... maybe not though, we do need thirty racers. Im also willing to go for a drive if there is another strip open somewhere....

GBAUER

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Probably not this winter. Don't want to cut into my snowboarding time. I've waited long enough this year!

MannyNJ2k2max

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havent lost to one yet, but my car is lightly modded and generally put a carlength and then some on them when playing from a stop

GBAUER

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Anyone know the weights of both gens? Just curious. I'd like to do a quick weight to pwr ratio to quiet the herd over there on the 6th gen forum...

026speedmax

you guys sure do a lot of honda bashing. Thats ok because most honda's and acura's are jokes. But do you ALL really think our max's are faster than every honda with a body kit and big wing, because i know mine is not. For less than my max cost me i have an LOW 12 sec street/show car with most if not all the nice features my max has(except off the line torque..lol)I guess i looking to see if anyone has raced a gsr or si or any honda worth a dam against a max with similiar mods, i want to see what the outcome is. Coming from a honda background all we cared about is 1/4 times, but since i got the max i havent even thought about racing untill it was suggested in this thread.SO..........i want to run some people for some fun

alicious

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A 6thgen and I walked a 4thgen not too long ago, then it got serious and we really went at eachother. They are quick, but lets just say this. He never "passed" me and neither did I him. Even at 120+ we were dead even, and i'm completely stock.

Plain and simple, they are too heavy to take advantage of that "extra" hp PERIOD.

GBAUER

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actually haven't seen a street honda that can hang with me. I'm sure they're out there, but they aren't coming out of the woodwork to play. When I first bought my '03, every ricer on the DC beltway wanted to run with me. I played with a few that took off strong, but they couldn't quite get it. I remember at least two guys over that last two years that came close, though. I suspect by the way they were running and sounding (pop-off valve anyone?) that they had turbos installed. Try tossing a supercharger or turbocharger on a 3.5 and hold onto your pants. Some of the guys on the all engine forums have REDICULOUS hp in their max's.

GBAUER

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He's got a 5th gen, too. Not a 5.5 gen...

mjg

edited out dumb post.

GBAUER

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gotta love them rotors.

F23A4

Island Dragway? I've never been there before but I'm in if its on a weekend.

F23A4

026speedmax, maybe we should open this up to the Atli V6 (SE, SE-R) guys. I'm very interested in seeing what those do at the track.

mjg

i've pulled on a 2k4 by 8-9 bus lengths.


It was so funny,the guy didn't even realize i was racing him. I just pulled by and ripped it past him, he was sitting there(i guess he was really old, didn't see that well)

sorry old man, i forget the 6th gen is a grandpa car : /


heh j/k

BigCat44

I'm hoping you guys are all joking right?? My 2k2 with Warpspeed Y-pipe, Greddy exh, Injen CAI, and RVM UDP could not hang with a stock 6th Gen, so I went and bought one. Stop racing the old ladies and pull up next to someone that knows how to drive!! Our ladies may be fat but they are faster then the 5.5 gens hand down. My .02

NYPD-Arnold

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That's funny...because a 6th gen only weighs 170lbs more! OMG TEH TANK! SO HEAVY DOODZ!

MONTE 01&97 SE

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I have ran a few 6th gens and have had no problem up to 80 with them, the last one I ran was just off my rear bumper by 80 when we both shut it down. That 5spd auto mainly helps them from a roll but froma stop it doesnt much, remember although we were shorted in the horsepower but "under rated" in torque with a couple hundred pounds less of mass to pull. Its funny I get more chllenges in the Max than the 350 maybe because I have a 3.5 Sticker on my trunk and people that know the 3.5 want to see how they compare, my Max gives my 350 a run for its money up to about 50mph. Then the Z slowly pulls.

sooner02r1

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Yeah 40lb wheels will SURELY help you beat a 5.5 gen.

sooner02r1

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My 5.5 gen weighed 3100 last weekend with me in it.

Tek-Niq

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this is a funny thread......... you 5th gen are trying to down us 6th gen guys like we drive hoduhs......... we are driving the same car, since when we down our self on the org......

mjg

i was totally playin with you guys.

Got some chip on yer shoulders, if we all brothas here im jus busting yer *****..

bigcat; FYI, that list of mods you wrote does absolutely next to nothing. It might be a drivers race most of the time, yet dont think an injen and a warpspeed piece of crap means something.

Also not all cars perform equally, some 5.5 gens will burn up some 6th gens and vice versa.

The bottom line to you guys. Post your time slips, stop trying to show off. We all know you got nice cars, enuf talking ish. It aint hard to tell when you guy guys are busy magazine racing rather then capable of doing the real thing.

5thgen2nr

I agree with Tek-Nig...no more civil wars! We all drive maximas here...we all know they are better than anything else...let there be peace! God knows theres enough 5th gen/5.5 gen interfighting, lets not let our misdoing spill over into the 6th gen forum lol.

Qmax03

It got a little outta hand here.. i think we all need to calm down, a 6th gen and a 5.5 gen are EQUAL its a drivers race basically, but i DID go against yet another 6th gen a freind of a freinds same outcome those 6th gen pull hard after 4k in 3rd but thats all, we nailed it from a 20 start and i gained a 1/2 car lead and kept it same on the highway but at top end i could pull away barely as well.... Yes i took off my heavy *** chromes and had stockers all i have is a injen cai. he was compl;etely stock. So lets jsut leave it at were the same, hey we all own maximas and we all are freinds here c'mon guys.

hct67

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Well if you look under your car you will notice its not a true dual exhaust, just a want to be dual exhaust. You still have a Y Pipe and a single pipe coming to the rear. Theres nothing dual about the 6th gen max!!!

BP

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stock for stock these cars are so closely matched that either driver could come out on top. the 6th gen has a slight edge, but the 5.5 gen is lighter and has comparable 'real world' torque for it's weight. neither car has a hands down advantage in accelleration

jrod1014

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From what i've been able to gather on various web sites the 5.5gen 6spd does 60 in 6.0 and the 6gen does it in 6.3. I am surprised at how light the 5.5s are (I am even lighter than my friend's 04 Altima 3.5 SE by 5lbs on edmunds.com). Any way you slice it, its going to come down to driving skills and how much crap you have in the car at the time. I haven't had the chance to race a 6gen but I pretty sure I will walk on the autos. As for the manuals we would have to see (I would anticipate similar results). I'm pretty sure it is a driver's race. I have a 5.5 and I absolutely love it. When it comes down to it, they are both badass cars... As long as we continue to beat the honduhs and other cars that swear, its all good. I particularly like taking the pontiac GTPs =).

mjg

the gtp with a swapped pulley would dog either of our cars (5.5, 6th)

jrod1014

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I guess none of them here in Miami have swapped pulleys. Or the fact that they weigh 3500+ lbs is a larger factor. I've always raced them off the line and I just take them (some by small margins others by larger). Don't get me wrong, I have tremendous respect for these cars and anything with boost stock can always become dangerous. (I have been raped by golf 1.8ts with work...)

F23A4

Dont sweat that. In addition to his mods, it sounds like he had a blown MAF sensor to boot.

BigCat44

Thats Hilarious. You are right that is nothing compared to boosted aspirated engines but for the non-boosted the warpspeed with the Greddy was a significant improvement over stock not to mention lightened pulleyand a CAI? If that is the way you think, I hope your not a betting man!

BigCat44

fortunately no..but I was a victim of the RVM oil leak fiasco.

NYPD-Arnold

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MJG knows what he's saying and I agree with him. First off, your Greddy is heavier than the stock exhaust. I'm pretty sure the Greddy weighs around 40lbs and 40lbs of weight in the car is a loss of about 3HP. 50lbs of weight is a loss of roughly 3.5HP. You're probably not getting much power out of your Greddy, despite what your butt dyno may tell you. The pulley...unless you got the lightest on the market, you also won't see a difference. You're only real gain is probably coming from your intake. And depending on what intake you have (warm or cold, brand name) you're getting 4HP at most to the wheels. I'd say you're getting 5-6hp at most with the mods you have on. Where as, you should've spent the money you blew on the pulley and exhaust on a nice Cattman Y-Pipe which would've nabbed you an easy 10-13hp.

GBAUER

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Hey guys, I was only giving the 6th gen guy some crap. It's Christmas for crying out loud! Lighten up, y'all! Anyway, maybe I DO have a monster under my hood 'cause I seem to be able to pull on 5.5 guys w/ exhaust work and about any STOCK 6th gen I see. I haven't done a dyno or track run YET, but it'll come this spring after I spend all my remaining dollars on my wedding. Anyway, just another rant.

BTW: 5.5 gen guys and gals are better looking than 6th gen. So if you want to be good looking, buy the 5.5 gen! If you like junk n da trunk, get the 6th gen.

Oh ya, if 3.5 whp are effectivly lost per every 50 lbs of mass, then TECHNICALLY, we have an effective 1.9 hp more than the 6th gens! I assume that if a 6th gen pulls on us it's because he has less mass in his jockey shorts...

(for those of you who just plain don't get the joke here, go wax your car or something 'cause both cars basically perform the same. Nissan hasn't really improved on any straight line performance for the '04's...)

026speedmax

You guys are right, we are all on the same team, so lets stop fighting about which gen is better and lets RACE..... at the track i mentioned before. I know GBAUER's down and a few others seem ready to set something up, someone suggested we open this up for the altima guys, DO IT UP.... I am real excited about this. I thought my drag racin days were done when i bought the max, i thought i would be all BLING BLING with a boomin system and chromes, i was all wrong..Who is willing to come to north Jersey late winter early spring, i am willing to set it up so us nissan guys can have a night at the track w/o waiting in lines for hours etc... Any racers pm me...

BigCat44

Yeah no argument here, I loved my 2k2 and wish I could have kept them both. However as for your weight remarks. I personally removed my stock cat back and Y-pipe and the Y-pipe was the best mod outside of the intake. I wasn't extremely please with the UDP as I should have went with UO at the time but RVM was cheaper and lighter (supposedly) The only thing I ended up removing was the exhaust because I didn't like the sound and look of it after a while. If you are going to start measuring weight in terms of HP then I guess I better start running marathons because my 230lb **** is most likely slowing the car down. Regardless, those mods made my car perform better then it's stock form.