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Old 12-18-2004, 07:23 AM
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Been to the dyno yet Big Cat?
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I have taken a few drives in my moms 6th gen, its an Auto SL, and I was surprised at how slow it felt at wot.

I feel this Generation Maxima truely shoots for luxury, a 6th gen max is about as close to being a sports sedan as a 1990 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 4-door .

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Originally Posted by BigCat44
I'm hoping you guys are all joking right?? My 2k2 with Warpspeed Y-pipe, Greddy exh, Injen CAI, and RVM UDP could not hang with a stock 6th Gen, so I went and bought one. Stop racing the old ladies and pull up next to someone that knows how to drive!! Our ladies may be fat but they are faster then the 5.5 gens hand down. My .02

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Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
I have taken a few drives in my moms 6th gen, its an Auto SL, and I was surprised at how slow it felt at wot.

I feel this Generation Maxima truely shoots for luxury, a 6th gen max is about as close to being a sports sedan as a 1990 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 4-door .

OUCH!!! That hurts.
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Old 12-18-2004, 10:53 AM
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Been to the dyno yet Big Cat?
Only with my bikes but I just put on the Injen CAI for my 6th gen and I got the CE Y-pipes for X-mas so that is my next step. I'm trying to figure what these mods do to my hp at altitude being where I am located. Then in May I am moving to San Antonio so I will run it again there and get some numbers.
 
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Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
I have taken a few drives in my moms 6th gen, its an Auto SL, and I was surprised at how slow it felt at wot.

I feel this Generation Maxima truely shoots for luxury, a 6th gen max is about as close to being a sports sedan as a 1990 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 4-door .

low blow.. I think the 6t hgens are extremely sporty. Maybe its becuase you have the SL? The SE's with the spoiler, rims, etc looks pretty good... My $0.02

oh and please do not compare any Maxima to a GM... Please... its painful...
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The SLs are slightly quicker than the SEs since they come with a lighter and smaller 17'' rim.
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Dont knock the caddy's i have a few on my lot here that would embarrace a 5.5 or any other max, even with a blower!!!!!.......but chances are it would then break down!(lol)
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umm i wonder for auto does 4 speeds and 5 speeds make any difference? lol
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jrod1014 ;

The gtp can be a 12 second car quicker then u can spell the word maxima.

You are definatly confused if you feel otherwise. Bigcat, i won't argue with you, since you really seem to understand what your talking about : /

I'd put pink slips on the fact my 5.5th gen would tear your 6th gen a new hole in that "big ***".
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oh my god...this thread has gotten outta CONTROL...it should be closed.
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Old 12-18-2004, 01:43 PM
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nah chill man,

look its no big deal.

I'm not going to race the guy, he made a comment, and i just replied childishly.

I'll let it go. Lets be adults.
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Originally Posted by mjg
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The gtp can be a 12 second car quicker then u can spell the word maxima.

You are definatly confused if you feel otherwise. Bigcat, i won't argue with you, since you really seem to understand what your talking about : /

I'd put pink slips on the fact my 5.5th gen would tear your 6th gen a new hole in that "big ***".
Dems words!
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hey truth be told:

My car is bone stock, he'd have no problems winning ; )
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The SL is not a faster car. Well I guess since they offer it in 5 speed auto now then it would be but the SL model did only come with 4 speed auto at one time and the 5 speed is definately faster. I have raced and driven both cars. My girl owns an 02 auto which doesnt even compare to my 6 speed in performance but I love her car. But thats an auto and not a fair comparison. I have a friend with a 02 6 speed and we did a highway run and it was DEAD EVEN. We were both stock except at the time I was running some heavy *** 19s. Since then I have put my stock 18s back on. Anyways the 5.5 gen and 6th is a drivers race, neither one is faster than the other regardless of what some of these guys are saying. They may have raced one and beat it but that doesnt say anything. I ran a 14.3@96 when my car was stock and im pretty happy with that time since I dont see many other stock 6 speeds running that.
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glude:

+1.

This entire thread was fun, until people became offended and stuff.

let's all smoke the peace pipe. ( i could use that). Say, who of u 6th genners is gonna lobby HP autoworks for an sts, or see if it's doable on your ride?

Check 'em out.
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I want a sts. I just dont think theres enough 6th gen guys around that are actually interested in em. Most people in our forum are more for looks than performance.
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Perhaps it isn't a big deal to get it to work tho on a 6th gen. Doesnt hurt to ask bro.
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+1.

This entire thread was fun, until people became offended and stuff.

let's all smoke the peace pipe. ( i could use that). Say, who of u 6th genners is gonna lobby HP autoworks for an sts, or see if it's doable on your ride?

Check 'em out.
Yeah it's all good. My car (cage)is my "pick my daughter up from daycare" vehicle and my "go fast stuff" are my bikes. I was reasonably interested in the SC setup from SSR but with an upcoming change of base I don't see the time and money being a necessity for the car. There was never any offense taken, I just stated that I had gotten beaten by a 6th gen before I bought a 6th gen but it is all dependent on the driver. As for my knowledge of cars, yes I know my share about cars or at least enough to know that if I wanted to buy a car for 1/4 mi times and street racing I wouldn't be modding the crap out of a Maxima. We're one big happy family us Max owners
 
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Originally Posted by BigCat44
Yeah it's all good. My car (cage)is my "pick my daughter up from daycare" vehicle and my "go fast stuff" are my bikes. I was reasonably interested in the SC setup from SSR but with an upcoming change of base I don't see the time and money being a necessity for the car. There was never any offense taken, I just stated that I had gotten beaten by a 6th gen before I bought a 6th gen but it is all dependent on the driver. As for my knowledge of cars, yes I know my share about cars or at least enough to know that if I wanted to buy a car for 1/4 mi times and street racing I wouldn't be modding the crap out of a Maxima. We're one big happy family us Max owners
Well stated. Styling aside, both the 5.5G and 6G Maximas are great family cars with the ability to perform at sport sedan levels. No shame in owning either on of them.
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Well stated. Styling aside, both the 5.5G and 6G Maximas are great family cars with the ability to perform at sport sedan levels. No shame in owning either on of them.
Well said!
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Originally Posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
Well said!
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I still think the 6th gen has too much junk in da trunk, yo! I don't care what any 6th gen owner says, fifth gen people look, smell, drive, talk, walk, eat, sleep, spit, ****, run, laugh, smile, fart, work, and mod better than 6th gen owners!


...now let's remember how this thing started: a newb asked what the difference is between the 5.5 and 6th gens. My answer: junk in da trunk.
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Originally Posted by BigCat44
Yeah it's all good. My car (cage)is my "pick my daughter up from daycare" vehicle ...
Funny! Oh how we all forget that we're driving FOUR DOOR SEDANS!!! EVEN I"M DRIVING A FOUR DOOR SEDAN!!! NOT A SPORTS CAR!!! Granted, the max is quick and nimble, but it's still a FOUR DOOR SEDAN!!! I personally use mine to haul around clients. I'm a mortician!
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Originally Posted by mjg
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The gtp can be a 12 second car quicker then u can spell the word maxima.

You are definatly confused if you feel otherwise. Bigcat, i won't argue with you, since you really seem to understand what your talking about : /

I'd put pink slips on the fact my 5.5th gen would tear your 6th gen a new hole in that "big ***".
Believe me I do not disagree with you. I believe I previously posted about this stating that any car with boost, stock, has the potential to rip. Hell my 2001 Volvo S40 has a chip option that apparently brings it from 160hp to 200hp and if thats wheel horsepower, that car will be damn near mine in performance... I've been torn apart by Golf 1.8T's dynoing 270FWHP. It just so happens that the GTPs I've raced I have taken and since I hate GM it gets to my head sometimes that I have been taking them relatively easily with my 6-spd 5.5gen. One day one will own me and it will be a sad day on wallstreet, but until then =).. Stock for stock, the Max's take the GTP, Comp G, Impala SS, all of GM's supercharged sedan offerings... They are extremly heavy at usually 3500+ lbs.
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Originally Posted by jrod1014
Believe me I do not disagree with you. I believe I previously posted about this stating that any car with boost, stock, has the potential to rip. Hell my 2001 Volvo S40 has a chip option that apparently brings it from 160hp to 200hp and if thats wheel horsepower, that car will be damn near mine in performance... I've been torn apart by Golf 1.8T's dynoing 270FWHP. It just so happens that the GTPs I've raced I have taken and since I hate GM it gets to my head sometimes that I have been taking them relatively easily with my 6-spd 5.5gen. One day one will own me and it will be a sad day on wallstreet, but until then =).. Stock for stock, the Max's take the GTP, Comp G, Impala SS, all of GM's supercharged sedan offerings... They are extremly heavy at usually 3500+ lbs.
Back when I had my FC that was n/a but streetported with catback and intake my friend had a 98 GTP that had a K&N and a 3.4" pulley so it was running 12 lbs of boost. He and I raced from a stop once and I launched better than him as well as him having one person in the car and not having sportshift turned on. He never got back the 1/2 length I pulled on him on the launch.
I wish I had gotten to race my 7 with my Max but the 7 had been rear ended and I couldn't take it out because of not having taillights or a rear hatch, it still drove good. I believe it would have been an extremely close race as it was probably running high 14's. The Max is better in pretty much every way except for handling of course.
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Originally Posted by TriangleMan
Back when I had my FC that was n/a but streetported with catback and intake my friend had a 98 GTP that had a K&N and a 3.4" pulley so it was running 12 lbs of boost. He and I raced from a stop once and I launched better than him as well as him having one person in the car and not having sportshift turned on. He never got back the 1/2 length I pulled on him on the launch.
I wish I had gotten to race my 7 with my Max but the 7 had been rear ended and I couldn't take it out because of not having taillights or a rear hatch, it still drove good. I believe it would have been an extremely close race as it was probably running high 14's. The Max is better in pretty much every way except for handling of course.
FC's and FD's are nice cars. I am sorry to hear it was rear ended. I think a big disadvantage the GM offerings have is that they are heavy and automatic. But with the right things done and enough $$$, as with everything else, it can be fast.
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Actually I was kidding around with the guy. I guess that makes you a loser, go play in traffic. Thanks

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Yeah 40lb wheels will SURELY help you beat a 5.5 gen.
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FC's and FD's are nice cars. I am sorry to hear it was rear ended. I think a big disadvantage the GM offerings have is that they are heavy and automatic. But with the right things done and enough $$$, as with everything else, it can be fast.
Thanks, yeah I drove that GTP a couple times and boy it was like an airplane, you could barely see the road over the dash when you got on it. I thought I wasn't going to have a chance vs him since from 240hp stock it should have about 270hp with 12lbs vs 8lbs of boost and intake. The heads-up display is something that I wish the other automakers would take, that's one thing I loved about that car.
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This is unacceptable My car is faster wah wah wah, can't you tell how much I care about the speed that I put 20's on.. GBAUER some people really take this thing serious. It's kind of Funny. Merry Christmas everone, be happy. Could be driving a junker.


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Hey guys, I was only giving the 6th gen guy some crap. It's Christmas for crying out loud! Lighten up, y'all! Anyway, maybe I DO have a monster under my hood 'cause I seem to be able to pull on 5.5 guys w/ exhaust work and about any STOCK 6th gen I see. I haven't done a dyno or track run YET, but it'll come this spring after I spend all my remaining dollars on my wedding. Anyway, just another rant.

BTW: 5.5 gen guys and gals are better looking than 6th gen. So if you want to be good looking, buy the 5.5 gen! If you like junk n da trunk, get the 6th gen.

Oh ya, if 3.5 whp are effectivly lost per every 50 lbs of mass, then TECHNICALLY, we have an effective 1.9 hp more than the 6th gens! I assume that if a 6th gen pulls on us it's because he has less mass in his jockey shorts...

(for those of you who just plain don't get the joke here, go wax your car or something 'cause both cars basically perform the same. Nissan hasn't really improved on any straight line performance for the '04's...)
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Originally Posted by 04 maxse
Could be driving a junker.

Ya, I'm thinking about trading my 03 for a 87 Cutlas Supreme. That way I can mod the heck out of it and blow the doors of all ya'all! It's all about style. I personally love the square everything on the outside of the Supreme and the nice, squishy, riding in a 19' boat feeling while I go down the road. Sleeper baby, sleeper.
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I took off w/ a 6th gener the other night w/ my autotragic. Even through 1st & 2nd then he started walking me. Ended up about 1 1/2 cars in the 1/4. I was pissed I didn't have my turned on. That's what happens when you don't have a remote opener, next purchase!
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sounds like you need a tune-up. Mine eats 'em up (well, maybe "nibbles" might be the right word here...) through every gear and I have an auto.
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Originally Posted by 04 maxse
This is unacceptable My car is faster wah wah wah, can't you tell how much I care about the speed that I put 20's on.. GBAUER some people really take this thing serious. It's kind of Funny. Merry Christmas everone, be happy. Could be driving a junker.
you're just jelous 'cause I'm better looking...

Oh ya, and by the way, I don't need 20's to turn heads, all I need is a little flutter on the throttle.

And one more thing: Merry f*%&king Christmas to you, too, damnit!
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Thanks, yeah I drove that GTP a couple times and boy it was like an airplane, you could barely see the road over the dash when you got on it. I thought I wasn't going to have a chance vs him since from 240hp stock it should have about 270hp with 12lbs vs 8lbs of boost and intake. The heads-up display is something that I wish the other automakers would take, that's one thing I loved about that car.
Yep, when I drove one I really liked the HUD... 270 hp? That's a race I would be interested in... I've been able to beat the new '05 TL's but he was automatic... I want to see how i fair up vs the A-Spec...

As for the 5th vs 6th, its a drivers race in my opinion. Both are extremely nice cars and I cant get over the new gen's package that brings two bucket seats in the back... That's simply out of hand. I think the the 5's are sportier but the 6th gen is also sporty.. ive seen a few look really nice with the rear spoiler option.. Dual exhaust etc.. Nice cars all around..
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The new TL's are fast...if the tranny doesn't explode on you
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The new TL's are fast...if the tranny doesn't explode on you
...but Honduhs are soooo reliable...
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...but Honduhs are soooo reliable...

Everything but the transmission, yeah...

But what good is an engine that can rev to the roof if it's not attached to the driveshafts...
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