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Old 01-19-2005 | 08:17 AM
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Get PIAA Super Plasma or Super Plasma GTX

Both are the same price 65.99 actually cheaper than my PIAA Super whites,85 bucks. My question to you guys who have either one of these fog lights, which one matches the HID best? My super whites were an ok match from far away, but when you got up close to them they had a hint of yellow in them. I know these aren't HID fogs but a PIAA rep told me that he is willing to bet the farm that the SP GTX's are more of an exact match to my HIDS. What do you guys think?
Old 01-19-2005 | 08:21 AM
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I ordered the piaa super plasma GTX for my fog lights, but one of the bulbs already burned out, which was a real shame. Take a look at my webpage and look at how the fogs look and judge for your self.
Old 01-19-2005 | 08:54 AM
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I ordered the piaa super plasma GTX for my fog lights, but one of the bulbs already burned out, which was a real shame. Take a look at my webpage and look at how the fogs look and judge for your self.

No link to it......

Never mind, i found it.Thanks...

They look really white from the photos, do you have HIDs in your headlighs too?
Old 01-19-2005 | 09:20 AM
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Nope those are just H4 Piaa Super Plasma GTX buLbs also.
Old 01-19-2005 | 10:02 AM
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Both are the same price 65.99 actually cheaper than my PIAA Super whites,85 bucks. My question to you guys who have either one of these fog lights, which one matches the HID best? My super whites were an ok match from far away, but when you got up close to them they had a hint of yellow in them. I know these aren't HID fogs but a PIAA rep told me that he is willing to bet the farm that the SP GTX's are more of an exact match to my HIDS. What do you guys think?
never tried the gtx but the pics that i've seen don't look much different than the regular super plasmas. and you can get them cheaper than 65.99. well atleast the super plasmas you can...

http://www.optionsauto.com/index.htm...mber=PIA-15556
Old 01-19-2005 | 10:33 AM
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I've heard that there is no difference from peeps that have had both. I got my H3 Super Plasmas (non GTX) for $51 shipped from Ebay.
Old 01-19-2005 | 12:00 PM
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I've heard that there is no difference from peeps that have had both. I got my H3 Super Plasmas (non GTX) for $51 shipped from Ebay.
Do they match your HIDS pretty well? I notice you also have a 2k2 Max,thats why i am asking.
Old 01-19-2005 | 12:12 PM
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Do they match your HIDS pretty well? I notice you also have a 2k2 Max,thats why i am asking.
i have super plasmas on my 2k3. IMO they match the headlights very well.
Old 01-19-2005 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by XGaSpAcHo
i have super plasmas on my 2k3. IMO they match the headlights very well.
Then its a done deal, Super Plasma it is.Thanks!
Old 01-19-2005 | 01:04 PM
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What the hell is the GTX? I noticed that on their website too.
http://www.piaa.com/Bulbs/Bulbs-H3.html
Since non-GTX is the way to go..is there an online vendor selling the non-GTX super plasma?
THanks
Old 01-19-2005 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CoolMax
What the hell is the GTX? I noticed that on their website too.
http://www.piaa.com/Bulbs/Bulbs-H3.html
Since non-GTX is the way to go..is there an online vendor selling the non-GTX super plasma?
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Over here inn Orlando, Sound advice, but hey if you check on PIAA web site, go to "find dealer" type in your zip and state and it will provide some local stores in your area.
Old 01-19-2005 | 01:28 PM
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The GTX's are awesome, from inside of the car they look like HID's in there consistancy with the brightness of the light. They remind of of a 4100k HID setup, i'll try and get you some pictures. Not too mention they have a slight purplish hue to them like HIDS. Go with the GTX's.
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Thanks DailyDriver
alicious: But do the GTX match the 5.5gen HID's?
Old 01-19-2005 | 02:19 PM
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To be honest, there isn't a whole lot of a difference between the two other then the stock HID's might be a little "sharper" in how they look but the light output to me at least is really close.
Old 01-19-2005 | 02:58 PM
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Old 01-19-2005 | 03:03 PM
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i use to have the super plasma gt-x's picked them over the super plasmas since i was pretty sure the gt-x's performed better even though the super plasmas were suppose to have a bit more color. anyway i myself wouldn't go back to either, mainly because of the price when the gt-x didn't last too long. left low beam went out. i got some shunda's or something SD's didn't hear about them before hand but a friend of a friends sells auto parts in his garage and recomended them and i got them much cheaper than retail. i'd recomend these if i knew where else to get them, they give the same output and color as my gt-x's lets hope they last longer. ah just one other thing i had the piaa ion crystal fogs, one went out not too long after the gt-x, so i'm just not too big of a fan of piaa anymore.
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Originally Posted by dextterity
i use to have the super plasma gt-x's picked them over the super plasmas since i was pretty sure the gt-x's performed better even though the super plasmas were suppose to have a bit more color. anyway i myself wouldn't go back to either, mainly because of the price when the gt-x didn't last too long. left low beam went out. i got some shunda's or something SD's didn't hear about them before hand but a friend of a friends sells auto parts in his garage and recomended them and i got them much cheaper than retail. i'd recomend these if i knew where else to get them, they give the same output and color as my gt-x's lets hope they last longer. ah just one other thing i had the piaa ion crystal fogs, one went out not too long after the gt-x, so i'm just not too big of a fan of piaa anymore.
im hoping that wont happen to me...i just got the PIAA super plasmas at the end of dec. (christmas) and ive heard that a lot of people have had their PIAAs burn out on them after a short period of ownership....ive never heard of the shunda's before though...
Old 01-19-2005 | 03:44 PM
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if your PIAA's burn out in less than a year, use your warranty to get a new set. my super plasmas should arrive tomorrow/friday and you can bet i will be saving the receipt AND warranty.
Old 01-19-2005 | 04:30 PM
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if your PIAA's burn out in less than a year, use your warranty to get a new set. my super plasmas should arrive tomorrow/friday and you can bet i will be saving the receipt AND warranty.
i hate to agree with a red sox fan but he's right. whenever i get around to it i will be taking out my current PIAA super plasmas replacing them with a 2nd set and mailing the burned out bulb back to where i bought it from.
Old 01-19-2005 | 07:13 PM
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The GTX's are the newest model of the Super Plasmas. Both will be the best match for our HID's. Don't pay over $55 per set.
Old 01-19-2005 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Gsilk
if your PIAA's burn out in less than a year, use your warranty to get a new set. my super plasmas should arrive tomorrow/friday and you can bet i will be saving the receipt AND warranty.
really good point, and i didnt know you got a whole new warranty when replacing them...why is everyone complaining about spending $50+ on new bulbs when they can just keep on re-newing the warranty whenever their bulbs burn out?
Old 01-19-2005 | 08:47 PM
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really good point, and i didnt know you got a whole new warranty when replacing them...why is everyone complaining about spending $50+ on new bulbs when they can just keep on re-newing the warranty whenever their bulbs burn out?
it's a bit annoying to have to replace your fog light bulbs every few months. mine burned out about a month and a half ago but i can't replace it cuz it's so fargin cold out here and it keept snowing all the time which means my car drips all over me if i put it in the garage.
Old 01-19-2005 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by XGaSpAcHo
it's a bit annoying to have to replace your fog light bulbs every few months. mine burned out about a month and a half ago but i can't replace it cuz it's so fargin cold out here and it keept snowing all the time which means my car drips all over me if i put it in the garage.
well what im saying is, all i ever hear people complaining about is the part where they have to fork out another 50 bucks to get their fogs replaced, and if this is true, why would the complain about that? i wouldnt bash PIAA for the bulbs burning out, because first of all, some people have had them in their cars for a long time without them blowing, so its probably the installation process that causes the bulbs to blow, and second, if they blow within a year all the time, and all they have to do is send them in for a while and receive all new bulbs and a new warranty, why are they complaining about PIAA? but i do have to agree, it would get a bit annoying having to send your bulbs in every 6 months or so, but i'm not one of the people that look at it as a bad thing, because if you get a new warranty every time you send it in, technically you will never have to buy new bulbs....
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Here's my "devil's advocate" post:

I can't believe you guys are dropping $50-70 on a pair of freakin light bulbs!?!

But more importantly, I can't believe PIAA has the ballz to charge that much for bulbs. I'm not sure why they think they're somehow better than bulbs made by Sylvania or Hella or other companies who have been around MUCH longer......

an example:
If you could get one shirt in dark blue for $20, or that exact same shirt in "midnight" blue (slightly different shade) that was $65...would you spend all that extra money for a slightly different shade?

if your fog lights don't match your HID headlights...hell, just turn the fogs off - it's not like they provide ANY significant added visibility anyhow
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Here's my "devil's advocate" post:

I can't believe you guys are dropping $50-70 on a pair of freakin light bulbs!?!

But more importantly, I can't believe PIAA has the ballz to charge that much for bulbs. I'm not sure why they think they're somehow better than bulbs made by Sylvania or Hella or other companies who have been around MUCH longer......

an example:
If you could get one shirt in dark blue for $20, or that exact same shirt in "midnight" blue (slightly different shade) that was $65...would you spend all that extra money for a slightly different shade?

if your fog lights don't match your HID headlights...hell, just turn the fogs off - it's not like they provide ANY significant added visibility anyhow
what's the point of having the fog lights if you're not going to use them? and if you are going to use them then you'd want them to look as good as they can (short of going the HID route). and yeah you're right...PIAA's prices are a bit steep compared to the competition. what bulbs can i get that look as good as super plasmas?
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Originally Posted by irish44j
Here's my "devil's advocate" post:

I can't believe you guys are dropping $50-70 on a pair of freakin light bulbs!?!

But more importantly, I can't believe PIAA has the ballz to charge that much for bulbs. I'm not sure why they think they're somehow better than bulbs made by Sylvania or Hella or other companies who have been around MUCH longer......

an example:
If you could get one shirt in dark blue for $20, or that exact same shirt in "midnight" blue (slightly different shade) that was $65...would you spend all that extra money for a slightly different shade?

if your fog lights don't match your HID headlights...hell, just turn the fogs off - it's not like they provide ANY significant added visibility anyhow
well if that were the case, then i simply wouldnt buy new bulbs and do what i did when i didnt have the super plasmas....just leave the fogs off...but i really like the look of the fogs, and like most people would say, i think people should spend THEIR money on whatever they want...that being said, i want to spend MY money on PIAA, because not only do they look good, but they are bright as well ( not that it makes much of a difference w/ the fogs on )
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well if that were the case, then i simply wouldnt buy new bulbs and do what i did when i didnt have the super plasmas....just leave the fogs off...but i really like the look of the fogs, and like most people would say, i think people should spend THEIR money on whatever they want...that being said, i want to spend MY money on PIAA, because not only do they look good, but they are bright as well ( not that it makes much of a difference w/ the fogs on )
that's why I called it my "devil's advocate" post.

As to the "bright" part...well....a PIAA 55W bulb is no brighter than any other 55W bulb....their little 55W=85W thing is a bunch of BS...But if you're just getting it for the looks, hey...it's your money....be my guest. (and by the way, yes - I have also owned PIAA bulbs in the past)
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Originally Posted by irish44j
that's why I called it my "devil's advocate" post.

As to the "bright" part...well....a PIAA 55W bulb is no brighter than any other 55W bulb....their little 55W=85W thing is a bunch of BS...But if you're just getting it for the looks, hey...it's your money....be my guest. (and by the way, yes - I have also owned PIAA bulbs in the past)
yeah i have to agree with you on that...theyre not any brighter from silverstars, etc...but they do match the HIDs better and thats what i was going for, and even with just the fogs on, they look nice
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or you could spend $30, do the lexus mod, and rock the $5.00, 55W regular-old Sylvania H3 bulbs forever! (and the yellow ones look SWEET with HIDs - wish I had the HIDs!) I never have to buy an expensive bulb again for the fogs...

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Originally Posted by irish44j
or you could spend $30, do the lexus mod, and rock the $5.00, 55W regular-old Sylvania H3 bulbs forever! (and the yellow ones look SWEET with HIDs - wish I had the HIDs!) I never have to buy an expensive bulb again for the fogs...

those do look pretty nice, but im the kind of person that likes everything to match (dont ask, im just like that) and i just really like how the super plasmas match the HIDs....but i would definitely get the yellow capsuls as my alternative
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I ordered the piaa super plasma GTX for my fog lights, but one of the bulbs already burned out, which was a real shame. Take a look at my webpage and look at how the fogs look and judge for your self.
what kinda bulbs are you using for your sidemarkers?
Old 01-20-2005 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SeatownMaxi2k1
what kinda bulbs are you using for your sidemarkers?

I am using polarg super whites, these bulbs are superb! Over a year of use and none of my clearance lights or side markes have goneout. I also have a pair of polarg amber lights for sale if your intrested. They came with the front clear corners as a bonus from the shop i brought them from,used them for 5 minutes and took them out. Repackaged them and never used them again. Amber lights aren't my thing, will sale for $5 if anybody is intrested. Normally $12 bucks if brought at the store.

But as for longevity, that is strange why so many of your PIAA SP are burning out. I am honest to say i really enjoyed my PIAA's super whites , they lasted a full solid 11 month and 9 days before the blew out. Hopefully the Super plasma's will last the same time ...
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Can we just match bulbs based on the factory HID's Kelvin rating? Um, what is our K rating?

Wattage: 55-110 XTRA, 4000k
Technology: Xtreme White Plus

Wattage: 55w = 85w, 3800K
Technology: Super White with XTRA Technology

Wattage: 55w = 110 Xtra, 5000K
Technology: Super Plasma GT-X with XTRA Technology
Old 01-20-2005 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by CoolMax
Can we just match bulbs based on the factory HID's Kelvin rating? Um, what is our K rating?

Wattage: 55-110 XTRA, 4000k
Technology: Xtreme White Plus

Wattage: 55w = 85w, 3800K
Technology: Super White with XTRA Technology

Wattage: 55w = 110 Xtra, 5000K
Technology: Super Plasma GT-X with XTRA Technology

4300K is for our HIDS. So anything just below or above will match perfectly!
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not necessarily, because every manufacturer has a different color associated with their kelvin ratings, so you really cant go off of that...and i can guarantee you, you probably wont find a better matching bulb with the stock HIDs then the super plasmas, and from what i hear the GT-Xs....for example, if you went with HID fogs and found some 4300K ones, it most likely wouldnt match the HIDs perfectly, so you would have to get new bulbs for the stock HIDs...
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which fog light bulbs would match the hid's if u were to install the DDE's?
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the HIDs are the same color, even with the DDEs...im confused on what youre asking here...
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which fog light bulbs would match the hid's if u were to install the DDE's?
It would still be super plama's. DDE's don't change the color of the HID's.
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OK, getting some great info here.

Another Q: why doesn't PIAA list SP non-GTX on their website?(I don't expect anyone to really know)
http://www.piaa.com/Bulbs/Bulbs-H3.html
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4300K is for our HIDS. So anything just below or above will match perfectly!

Going by that, wouldn't Xtreme Whites be the somewhat logical choice?



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