Alright heres the story. I bought a lemon from a local Nissan in Queens. It had quite a few stupid little problems that I fixed (well most of them anyway) over time. But the one that was giving me the most problem was its sluggish acceleration. After creating a forum and getting some advice on the issue from someone who had the same problem, I changed the MAF and well, zoom zoom zoom! It fixed the problem, and the car was accelerating beautifully. Then about 2 and a half weeks later it goes right back to the same horribly sluggish accleration problem I had before. Could the New MAF I just bout have gone bad already!! Is there something wrong that can cause it to go bad even quicker thatn usual or is my acceleration problem lying somewhere else??
2001 SE Stock
37k

 

check the coil packs..?

 

Could bacd coils cause the MAF to go bad??

 

if its the lemon, why are you fixing it? every single time you have a problem take it to the dealer, if the same problem occurs 3 times, they have to take in that car and fully reimburse you

 

Thats quite a nice assumption, however thats not the way a lemon law works. IF you were to claim a lemon law on a used car, you have some work to do. How is a used vehicle deemed a lemon? Who knows how the previous owner treated the car! How can a dealer OR individual be held responsible for these unforseen problems? Anyway, back to the subject, IF you get a dealer to buy back the vehicle via lemon law, they will only allow you current market value based on age, mileage, and condition......which usually isnt **** compared to like NADA retail! Also, they WILL NOT hand you a check! You have to put the allowance toward another vehicle!! So if you convice nissan to buy the car back, the allowance is just going to go toward another car!! Just trying to clear up a lot of misconceptions about the lemon law that people dont understand. Some feel some security in "thinking" the lemon law will protect them from a car with multiple "after the purchase" problems. I work in the service department and next to me is a chrysler service employee. You know shes busy with comebacks all day, and i havent seen a lemon law or buy-back yet! Now with ford, i have seen a few try, but when they realized the what the buy back entailed, they opted to keep their vehicle! I would say if the car was purchased in this condition-its your fault for not making them fix it before purchasing it. If it started shortly after buying the vehicle......is there a warranty? Did they offer a warranty? Did you decline a warranty, or was it what they call an AS-IS unit? If they are a reputable dealer, they will most likely help you out. Give it a try rather than buying parts based on peoples opinions. Youll save money!!

frank

 

OK listen I bought the car from Nemmit Nissan in Queens. They most likely have the worst reputation of all the nissan dealerships on the east coast (I just wish I was forewarned). Regardless many have tried but Nemmit has their own lawyers so basically returning the car in my opinion is hopeless. They also never know what the F*cking problem is with my car so getting help from them is also hopeless. So back to the question at the top of the forum please, can anyone help me??? Did My brand New MAF go bad?? I definitley dont have another 100$ to by another one. Anyone have a clue??

 

Yes I do have a warranty but they did something to my SES light (which I cant prove by the way) and know it wont come back on when theres a problem, and trust me there is definitley a problem. So warranty is also hopeless

 

on my moms kia back when it was 97 i believe, the car didnt start 3 seperate times, probably 1500 on the odometer, took it back gave my mom full value of the car. maybe its different by states but thats how we took care of it

 

They took the bulb out?

Being thats the only way to make the light never appear again, it should be easy for you to prove.

 

actually, that is correct. im sure they are all the same in some ways, but there are definatley some differences. if the dealer i work for had car w/those problems @ 1500 miles, my dealer would buy it back without getting anyone else involved........its all about making the customer happy and you have to put yourself in their shoes!!

On a side note, i cant believe a MAF would go bad in 2 weeks, but who knows??

 

if you have warranty take it to another dealer.. man... and call nissan california and explain the situatuion, sometimes they help.....not always... be good to them and they might help you.. kiss some a$$ and it might work in your favor....

 

all new nissan parts have a 12 month warranty.

 

Yeah but see thats exactly my point. Since my SES light wont come on I cant prove that theres anything wrong with my MAF. My light came on once about a week after I bought the car. I took it to Nemmit Nissan and they just turned it off, I guess to shut me up. I asked everyone in service and no one knew why the light was on in the first place. I guess they didnt want to lose anymore money since I brought it back with a list of problems within the week. The only thing they did was change the front rotors and then the light magically dissappears. Their crooks but I just cant prove it.

 

Get a cheap code pulling device from Advance/Autozone (whatever shop is near you) to pull any possible codes and see if they maybe just pulled the SES bulb out. If they did that, then you contact Nissan Nort America and tell them what happened. You'll most likely get whatever you want...

 

As far as them possibly pulling the SES bulb. That's easy to check. When you first go to start the car, all indicating lights should come on briefly. That's the way you check for burnt indicator bulbs. If the SES light comes on then, you've got a bulb. If not, it's burned out or removed. That's warrantee work right there.

As for further disabling you can check for any codes even without a code checker. I don't have my service manual with me right now but it involves turning on the ignition and stomping on the pedal repeatedly and holding in a specific pattern. Then the codes come up flasing long - short to read out the code number. There's a pattern even if no codes to say that it has completed its check. If you get a code, jot it down and bring it in as a warrantee item.

I doubt very much that supposed bozos would be able to reprogram this system. If the SES blinks in the correct pattern, no one has messed with it.

Will check my manual for the exact procedure when I get home. However, someone here on the forum might have this procedure more handy. My car is a 2003 with drive by wire so it may not apply to your 2001 but I'm sure, if not, there is some procedure for pulling the codes.

Don't know how a 2001 can be still under OEM warantee unless the extended warrantee was purchased. As advised earlier, if you are having problems and are still under warranty, don't go throwing money at buying parts yourself. If the local dealer isn't fixing it go to another one. They all have to honor the warantee even if it was an extended OEM warantee. That's one of the advantages of going with a Nissan, vs. third party warantee. I think Ford's the only company that tried to make you go back to the purchasing dealer unless you moved away. If no satisfaction, ask the dealer to put you into contact with the Nissan zone manager and if they refuse, contact Nissan directly.

If it's a third party warantee or state required used dealer warantee you've got to follow whatever the particular state requires. Yes, in the making of these and lemon laws the dealers have pretty much poured millions of dollars into lobbying to water down this type of legislation. Legislators try to leave just enough in the final bill to tout them as being consumer friendly but with enough caveats to make some of these laws nearly worthless. All so they can count on the donations of these same dealers when the next election comes around.

In any event, to have any chance of prevailing, document everything including all receipts and a diary where you write down, at the time, anything that was said and promised, and by who. Initial and date each entry. To verify dates and that you haven't back filled in pages you could even have a notary stamp it with the date every once and a while.

 

Get Ahold Of Better B.b.b And File A Claim

 

This would only be the case if you bought the car NEW, Correct?

 

Yeah,

Most lemon laws apply to a new car, usually in its first year. No way are you going to make any claims on a 2001. The only backing you have in most states is legally required warrantee which is usually limited to 30 days or the remainder of the OEM warantee.

 

OK, I appreciate the all advice about lemon laws but I'm not taking the car back so can we get back to my issue? Does anyone know? I was reading another forum in here I was thinking it could possibly be the VIAS (Variable Intake).