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Old 02-22-2005 | 09:37 AM
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MOD LIST for a 13 Second 5.5 Gen

I have been getting many emails and PM's asking me about what mods I have and where I have gotten them. So I have decided to put together a list of mods that someone should purchase if they want their car to perform similar to mine. This thread may be especially helpful in the future for newbies.

Intake
K&N Cone Filter ($45) and generic MAf Adapter Plate (~$10)
Link to Filter
The Maf Adapter can be found on ebay for under $10

Headers
I have the Hotshot Headers ($600)
Link to Hotshot Headers
The Cattman Headers will perform the just as well ($850)
Link to Cattman Headers

Custom Maxima Straight Pipe
Link to Straight Pipe ($100)

Catback Exhaust
I have a custom 2.5 inch Exhaust back to a Dynomax Superturbo Muffler to keep things quiet. Exhaust cost me $200 at a local Meineke and muffler was about $50. Any 2.5 inch catback system will be fine and they are all going to be similar in performance. Some popular options are Greddy, Frankencar or Cattman. (~500)

All the mods listed above are what I consider the essential mods. So as you can see for (~$1300 not including installation charges) one can add some decent power to their vehicle. With these mods I have listed above any 5.5 gen will be making similar power to mine. I am not guaranteeing that if anyone does as I have stated above they will run below 13 sec in the 1/4 mile. It takes practice and a good launch as well. And of course track conditions and environment will always be a factor.

Here is a list of other mods that I also have but are not needed to get the car into the high 13's.

Maximum Tuning VB Mod - ($400)
www.maximumtuning.net

TS Ecu - Has been dyno proven to show no gain on my vehicle with an automatic transmission. ($450)
www.technosquareinc.com

APEXI SAFC 2
This can be purchased from various vendors and ranges anywhere from $250-$400.

I would like to thank and give credit to Blubyu2k2 and SR20DEN as well. I think that together through trial and error and CA$H we were able to come up with a combination of mods that adds decent power to our cars.

If anyone has any input to add please do. And Mods feel free to make this a stickie.

Enjoy
Old 02-22-2005 | 09:39 AM
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Didn't SR do some SAFC a/f tuning too?
Old 02-22-2005 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Didn't SR do some SAFC a/f tuning too?
No, I have recently installed the SAFC, however I have run my times prior to the installation. I have not been to the track since the SAFC has been installed.
Old 02-22-2005 | 09:45 AM
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Great info man.... I'm sure many will appreciate it...

One question, it doesn't look like ya have an UDP? Is there any reason why not? I think that's something else that is commonly asked....

I was gonna ask what the weights of your MMs were, but I think there's a wheel weight link somewhere here...
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Originally Posted by juice
No, I have recently installed the SAFC, however I have run my times prior to the installation. I have not been to the track since the SAFC has been installed.
Have ya dynoed after the tuning? Just curious to see the changes in the numbers and plots...
Old 02-22-2005 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
Have ya dynoed after the tuning? Just curious to see the changes in the numbers and plots...
No I have not dyno'd since the SAFC install and probably won't either.

As for the UDP I do not have one, however, Blubyu2K2 had one installed on his vehicle when he made his 13 second passes.
Old 02-22-2005 | 09:51 AM
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Old 02-22-2005 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by juice
No I have not dyno'd since the SAFC install and probably won't either.

As for the UDP I do not have one, however, Blubyu2K2 had one installed on his vehicle when he made his 13 second passes.

$70 shipped for the udp, in the GD section right now... it is a great deal.
Old 02-22-2005 | 10:48 AM
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Thanx for sharing juice (now for my "to do" list)
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juice,

what about lighter rims and slicks (or drag radials)?

If you ran that sort of time on street tires, i'm only assuming your times would have been far better (yet i doubt that's the case). I never read your thread about when you got into the 13's. Either way, racing rims and tires is crucial and not to be neglected.

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Originally Posted by mjg
juice,

what about lighter rims and slicks (or drag radials)?

If you ran that sort of time on street tires, i'm only assuming your times would have been far better (yet i doubt that's the case). I never read your thread about when you got into the 13's. Either way, racing rims and tires is crucial and not to be neglected.

Marc
I ran those times on the stock rims with stock tires. Yes you are 100% correct that lighter rims with drag radials or slicks would improve your times. However, I was just trying to make a list of the basic mods that I used to get me into the 13's.
Old 02-22-2005 | 11:55 AM
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wow,

that is even more impressive then i thought!!! : ]


Report back to us with a

how to get into low 13's, high 12's thread when you ran that bad boy on slicks

; ).

Nice stuff.
Old 02-22-2005 | 11:59 AM
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guys keep in mind its doubtful to run 13's with 800lbs of stereo in the car. I know a lot of you are into bling bling boom boom....

The only way a 02 Auto will get into the lower 13's is with a high stall and 22" slicks unless some major work is done. I have no doubts I could have landed a 13.3 with a higher stall on my old 02.
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edited that out, i was wrong hehe.

misfire.

Can you explain more about the higher stall?
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does the UDP really do much? if so how much?
Old 02-22-2005 | 01:33 PM
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a higher stall lets the motor get up into the powerband quicker. If you have a manual, you cant use one, it is only applicable to autos because it replaces the stock torque converter with a higher stalling one.

juice: how long did that header install take?
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now tell me where i can get the money to do these
Old 02-22-2005 | 01:45 PM
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AHH i see. I never really understood how auto's work, i should definatly browse howstuffworks.com to get a basic idea. Thanks.

The header install, well my mechanic did this very quickly, if your handy and have the tools, i suppose he did it in less then 4 or 5 hours. I had it back later that afternoon.

One thing of mention, is that hotshot headers are recieving lots of complaints lately since Juice and i recieved ours, apparantly the newer batches have fitment issues, and alot of people are stressing it. I suppose with these headers, you might want to count taking them to the exhaust shop and having them modified if you ran into that to fit, chalk that off as install time ; ).

Are altima guys complaining nearly as much about the hotshot headers?

There is/was a group deal on motostorm under drive pulleys for 90 bux, They can go up to 200 if you get unauthordox racing.
Old 02-22-2005 | 08:49 PM
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There is/was a group deal on motostorm under drive pulleys for 90 bux, They can go up to 200 if you get unauthordox racing.
they are re-running it curently at $70 shipped.
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I heard that UDP don't add any power gains. However, I don't know if anybody has tested a particular installation of a UDP at the track.
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Originally Posted by looslip
I heard that UDP don't add any power gains. However, I don't know if anybody has tested a particular installation of a UDP at the track.
it does, it "frees" up power bottlenecked with the heavy pullys.
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Originally Posted by chinaonnitrous1
it does, it "frees" up power bottlenecked with the heavy pullys.
for $70 you could free up 5-6 hp... not to bad. a cattback prob adds the same and most people spend $500
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I have ran my car at the track where the only variable was having the UDP on or off. I ran the exact same times with or without it. So from my experiences it does not help at the track.
Old 02-23-2005 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by juice
I have ran my car at the track where the only variable was having the UDP on or off. I ran the exact same times with or without it. So from my experiences it does not help at the track.
It did make a cool noise on our cars though.
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so an UDP also adds sound?
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Originally Posted by juice
I have ran my car at the track where the only variable was having the UDP on or off. I ran the exact same times with or without it. So from my experiences it does not help at the track.
That's what I've heard too.... but for $70.. I'm gonna give the Motostorm pulley a shot anyways....
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for $70 you could free up 5-6 hp... not to bad. a cattback prob adds the same and most people spend $500
5-6 hp at the crank would probably translate to nothing at the wheels....
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Originally Posted by looslip
5-6 hp at the crank would probably translate to nothing at the wheels....
stillenmax claimed to have freed up 8 hp to the wheels with an udp.
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I'm getting to the point where Nitrous or FI is the only way to make power. Nickel and diming it with boltons gets discouraging after a while.
Old 02-23-2005 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
I'm getting to the point where Nitrous or FI is the only way to make power. Nickel and diming it with boltons gets discouraging after a while.
I'm assuming ya have headers already...

How about lighter flywheel/clutch, A/F tuning, etc? Should be another 20-25 whp there....
Old 02-23-2005 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
I'm getting to the point where Nitrous or FI is the only way to make power. Nickel and diming it with boltons gets discouraging after a while.
I agree bolt-ons can be discouraging, however, the things I listed in my original post are about 1/6 the cost of FI and the necessary installation.
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this is weird, most G35/350Z manuals produce about the same power if not more on your sign, but conservately speaking, they're only getting low 14s still...... i know a few like stevtec got like 13.6 out of his Z though.......

so im thinking, intake headers exhaust, is that really quick enough to get a 14.7-9 stock autobox down to high 13s?

you can probably replace hotshot headers with "XS HEADERS" on ebay..... thats for the altima, im only assuming its the same for the maxima.....

http://search.ebay.com/xs-headers_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8

also, does neone know if u can u get the L spec to raise the rev limiter on the autos? 7100rpm instead of 6500rpm? stock.... to run quicker times?
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Originally Posted by anthunny

so im thinking, intake headers exhaust, is that really quick enough to get a 14.7-9 stock autobox down to high 13s?
I don't think he would have posted it if it wasn't doable. I've done it also with the modified stock airbox, headers, and b pipe, udp. If you can't drive or suck at driving at the track its not the cars fault.
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i dont like shifting the auto tranny, i just brake torque......maybe thats why
im just speculating thats all, a 350Z RWD stick with about the same power is only gettin high 13s as well.....
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Originally Posted by anthunny
this is weird, most G35/350Z manuals produce about the same power if not more on your sign, but conservately speaking, they're only getting low 14s still...... i know a few like stevtec got like 13.6 out of his Z though.......

so im thinking, intake headers exhaust, is that really quick enough to get a 14.7-9 stock autobox down to high 13s?
Trust me its doable..as Blu said I wouldnt have posted it if it wasnt possible. I know others who have done it with these mods including my buddy with his 02 3.5 Altima. And as Blu said alot of it has to do with the driver....dont blame the car.
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Originally Posted by anthunny
i dont like shifting the auto tranny, i just brake torque......maybe thats why
im just speculating thats all, a 350Z RWD stick with about the same power is only gettin high 13s as well.....
manual 350z's are 13 sec cars stock with a good driver. Once again you are comparing drivers more than you are cars. There are plenty of guys in the 13.8 range in a stock 350 and a couple that have knocked off 13.6-13.7, two of I know are former Maxima owners, Briguymax and Veetec. As Juice said below I ran a 13.9 in his buddies Altima while the best he could run was a 14.3 if I remember correctly. Don't expect to run 13's in high elevation or when its 90 outside the conditions have to be pretty good.
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I'd think stickier tyres would be one of those "essential mods"...especially over the K&N filter.
Old 02-24-2005 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Driven EF9
I'd think stickier tyres would be one of those "essential mods"...especially over the K&N filter.
I agree that they are important. However, alot of people here are looking to the cheapest way to make their cars faster. $40 for a filter is cheaper than a $500+ plus set of good tires. The purpose of my original post was to show the only basic things I did to my car to get it in the high 13's, as stated before I ran those times on my stock tires.
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I agree bolt-ons can be discouraging, however, the things I listed in my original post are about 1/6 the cost of FI and the necessary installation.
I TOTALLY appreciate you posting that list. And as I'm NOT up to the expediture of FI, I'm looking at a Cattman B-pipe with a straight pipe thereafter.

Puppet, I have a 4AT so forget the flywheel/clutch upgrade.


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