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Old May 5, 2001 | 05:14 PM
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I drove round with them last night and today it is already getting dark and i turn them on.
They are awesome. I see no need to waste so much money on a real XENON HID system. I dont care bout illumination, i dont drive in woods.

They are really worth it, for aesthetic purposes only of course.

The superblack with the lights on makes a good combo.

Roger
thanks Yongjun for inspiring to purchase
Old May 5, 2001 | 06:36 PM
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Well just wait till one burns out for no good reason in 4 months and you are out 75 bucks. Only reason you dont like hid's is because you have never experienced them. I used to have piaa plasmas and they are NOWHERE near the color, quality and brilliance of my hid's You dont need to drive in woods to appreciate them. Just drive in the rain once and you will know what i mean

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Old May 5, 2001 | 08:29 PM
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Well Said Adam!

Old May 5, 2001 | 08:34 PM
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yeah... i had the PIAA superplasmas... SO much lumens lost... purtee... but unless you have fogs/driving lamps, you're pretty blind, especially in the rain.
Old May 6, 2001 | 08:37 PM
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stop scaring me

Originally posted by areX
yeah... i had the PIAA superplasmas... SO much lumens lost... purtee... but unless you have fogs/driving lamps, you're pretty blind, especially in the rain.
dam now i dont even feel like driving in good weather,
no one ever told me bout rain
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Old May 6, 2001 | 09:02 PM
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Re: stop scaring me

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dam now i dont even feel like driving in good weather,
no one ever told me bout rain
Roger
Roger its time for some Koito whitebeam fogs or some ion gold fogs
Those make an awsome combo for driving in the rain.
I found that out this weekend
Old May 8, 2001 | 04:00 PM
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HID vs. PIAA

"Can I install a HID kit on the 3rd, 4th, or 5th gen Maxima?
Will the kits fit? Yes. Should you install a kit? No. Why? There are several reasons why you should not. One is the fact that you will lose the use of your high beams. 9004 and H-4 bulbs are dual filaments, it contains both high beam and low beam filaments where as the HID bulb is a single filament bulb. You DO need high beams. Why? Sure HIDs are going to be bright, but high beams are aim differently and there will be time when you need to use your high beams to seem further. Also high beams are often used as a way to communicate with other drivers. You will lose the ability to do this. The second, and probably the most important, reason you should not do a conversion is the fact that your beam pattern will be destroyed(This applies mostly to the 3rd and 4th gens. 5th gens will have this to a lesser degree because the H-4 bulb filament is vertical). 9004 bulb filaments are horizontal relative to the bulb socket. HID bulbs are vertical. Your reflectors are designed with the horizontal filament in mind. The light output will glare a lot and will blind on coming drivers."

This is an exact quote from the Maxima.org MaxFAQs. The HIDs probably are more bright but I don't want to give up the ability to flash my hi-beams. I can just picture it that as soon as I replace my lights with a HID system some emergency will come about that I need my hi-beams. Where will I be then? Plus I can just see getting a ticket for having too bright of lights.
Old May 8, 2001 | 06:28 PM
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Plasma's versus Xtreme's

I had the Super Plasmas on for about six months and loved them because they were purplish versus fake aqua blue. They did provide slightly less light (lumens) than stock but adequate even in rain. I replaced fogs w/ Super Ion (lgt yellow) and needed nothing additional to light up the road. In fact, I usually get the flash on dim streets.

I had to try the new Xtremes and had them in for a week so far. They are brighter than stock and much more noticable. They have lost the purple tint but not yellow like stock either. They are bright white w/ a hint of blue. One neighbor already noticed and thought I had HID like his Acura .

I have the Platniums in my Supercharged Regal GS and the Xtremes are definitely NOT the same bulbs repacked. They are brighter and slightly blue not crystal white as the Platniums. I still swear by PIAA and have had no burned out bulbs.......hope that helps!!!
Old May 8, 2001 | 08:22 PM
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I had my piaa plasma bulbs for about 1 year until one burned out. The night vision was horrible. I am attempting to find a dealer that will sell the bellof hid kit so I can install it myself.
Old May 8, 2001 | 09:02 PM
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Re: HID vs. PIAA

Originally posted by punkrawk2001
"Can I install a HID kit on the 3rd, 4th, or 5th gen Maxima?
Will the kits fit? Yes. Should you install a kit? No. Why? There are several reasons why you should not. One is the fact that you will lose the use of your high beams. 9004 and H-4 bulbs are dual filaments, it contains both high beam and low beam filaments where as the HID bulb is a single filament bulb. You DO need high beams. Why? Sure HIDs are going to be bright, but high beams are aim differently and there will be time when you need to use your high beams to seem further. Also high beams are often used as a way to communicate with other drivers. You will lose the ability to do this. The second, and probably the most important, reason you should not do a conversion is the fact that your beam pattern will be destroyed(This applies mostly to the 3rd and 4th gens. 5th gens will have this to a lesser degree because the H-4 bulb filament is vertical). 9004 bulb filaments are horizontal relative to the bulb socket. HID bulbs are vertical. Your reflectors are designed with the horizontal filament in mind. The light output will glare a lot and will blind on coming drivers."

All this from someone who obviously has no experience with an hid system on his own car. Or should i say a quality hid kit. I have the new panasonic kit that is full shielded just like an h4 bulb. If you look at an h4 bulb it has a little metal shield right under the filament and i have a shield too so problem 1 solved... Secondly the light source is in the same exact place as a filament bulb so there is no stray light. Problem 2 solved. So now what you have is a fully shielded light source in the correct posistion that is way brighter than a normal halogen. So you get brighter more intence light with NO glare and a PERFECT beam pattern. If you dont belive me ask the people who have seen my lights or come down and see them. Now a 9004 bulb i dont know about but it works perfectly in my H4 headlamp.. And ohhh belive me.... Dont need highbeams...... Now i will agree with you that if you just stick some D2S bulbs in your stock housing it will look like total crap. But a fully shielded D2R bulb with custom base is totaly different. Ohh and a new IS300 pulled up to me tonight and guess who's hid's where brighter on the ground .... MINE
Sorry for the rant but this irritates me as much as people saying they have XENON HID bulbs but they are really halogens and nowhere near HID's..

ON TOPIC: Plasmas look good but output sucks and they burn out quick...

Adam
Old May 8, 2001 | 09:08 PM
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Re: Re: stop scaring me

Originally posted by yongjun

Roger its time for some Koito whitebeam fogs or some ion gold fogs
Those make an awsome combo for driving in the rain.
I found that out this weekend
Which one of these lasts the longest? I'm looking for great visibility AND long life. Tired of my YellowStars, they blow like crazy.

I blame my YellowTop battery and the fact that I often have them on when I start the car ... (pop!)

:-)
Old May 8, 2001 | 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by killrwheels
I had to try the new Xtremes and had them in for a week so far. They are brighter than stock and much more noticable. They have lost the purple tint but not yellow like stock either. They are bright white w/ a hint of blue. One neighbor already noticed and thought I had HID like his Acura .
Then I gotta say his eyes aren't very good. I can certainly tell the difference. And I'd certainly notice the difference driving.
Old May 9, 2001 | 01:05 AM
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Actually you do need highs. At least in Hawaii. I gotta remove my HID when I go for saftey. Besides that, I don't use Highs. No snow, no fog. Lota rain sometimes, but you don't need highs for that.
As for the perfect beam cut, I seen the pictures and they sure are (someone posted the Panasonics HIDs). Supposdly mine are exactly the same place as the standard H4 (Mine is NOT the kit Yo It's Ok is selling) and there is glare due to how bright it is. But I found a safe work-a-round to get ride of glare.
I am selling mine to get a pair from Yo and to see how much better his is. (It'll be about $150 more than what I paid).
Anybody wants a set of HID for $500? Pref. here in Hawaii so I can show them to you.
Old May 9, 2001 | 08:24 AM
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HID vs. PIAA

HID obviously look better than PIAA. And yes I haven't had any experience with them. But I am just a bit weary to go against the advice of Nissan and Maxima.org. Maybe after I have the car for a few years I will change it. Plus, the cops around here are really bored so they like to ticket for everything.
For all those who have had a HID system, how much did you pay and is it difficult to install?
Also, how do you flash your beams to a really slow car with a HID system?
Old May 9, 2001 | 10:29 AM
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Re: HID vs. PIAA

Originally posted by punkrawk2001

For all those who have had a HID system, how much did you pay and is it difficult to install?
Also, how do you flash your beams to a really slow car with a HID system?
Hogan sells the kit for 650. his name is yoitsok on the board. Install is easy, just like putting in an amp and new bulbs.. To signal a car infront of you lay on the horn and move to the left so the light angles up into their rearview mirror

Adam
Old May 9, 2001 | 10:37 AM
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Re: Re: HID vs. PIAA

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Hogan sells the kit for 650. his name is yoitsok on the board. Install is easy, just like putting in an amp and new bulbs.. To signal a car infront of you lay on the horn and move to the left so the light angles up into their rearview mirror

Adam
$650 including shipping?

*Starting to get tempted again"
Old May 9, 2001 | 02:37 PM
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I have the same headlights and i have driven in downpour at night and they work fine for me. Maybe some other people can't see well at night.
Old May 9, 2001 | 05:14 PM
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Re: Re: stop scaring me

Originally posted by yongjun

Roger its time for some Koito whitebeam fogs or some ion gold fogs
Those make an awsome combo for driving in the rain.
I found that out this weekend
Where can i find the ION GOLD fogs? what brand are they?
Will it give me the lexus look without the colored plastic lens, or do i need yellow plastic pieces to cover the fogs.

Roger
Old May 9, 2001 | 05:27 PM
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Re: Re: Re: stop scaring me

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Where can i find the ION GOLD fogs? what brand are they?
Will it give me the lexus look without the colored plastic lens, or do i need yellow plastic pieces to cover the fogs.

Roger

Actually it won't without the yellow lense.
the brand of the fog is PIAA
Old May 9, 2001 | 11:56 PM
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so why are they likely to burn out

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Well just wait till one burns out for no good reason in 4 months and you are out 75 bucks. Only reason you dont like hid's is because you have never experienced them. I used to have piaa plasmas and they are NOWHERE near the color, quality and brilliance of my hid's You dont need to drive in woods to appreciate them. Just drive in the rain once and you will know what i mean

Adam
Is there anything that i can do so they won't burn out that quickly? are PIAA that crap of a product? Anyway please let me know what makes them burn out so quickly. why does everybody find them to be garbage?
Roger
Old May 10, 2001 | 03:53 AM
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PIAA

I think you have a group of people that are allegent to a given product. (PIAA, Rabud, Phillips and HID) All mass produced products have good units and bad units, just like buying a tv. I've had my PIAA for over a year in Regal GS and six months in Maxima. I bought at discount through www.autobulbdepot.com. PIAA is a large company and will replace a bad bulb as long as you can prove purchase. If you buy high wattage bulbs than stock then they will burn out quicker....just like home bulbs, and can damage the lamp housing. I think that 60.00 dollars a year or two is reasonable for a goos set of lamps especially given the lifespan of wiperblades....oil....brake pads......rotors...tires.....and other items that need adjustment and replacement on cars every few years.
Old May 10, 2001 | 04:00 AM
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That is true. Back when bulbs were just bulbs and I bought a pair of h3 100watt bulbs for my fog lamps, those used to burn out every 3-4 months. When I got my PIAA Pro90's I got them with 100watts PIAA bulbs. Those would last about 6-8 months, which was still short but then again, I swear light output was almost double. I would say almost as good as my HID But those PIAAs wern't as white.
When I got my Super Whites, those lasts about the same amount of time if not longer.
With the HID I got those should last the lengh I have the car if I don't sell them to upgrade again. hehe
Old May 10, 2001 | 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by yo_its_ok
Kev, yeah next batch will be $650 shipped. All of my dealer snatched up the 22 HID units within 48 hours. I am already on backorder with the Panasonic units. I have 5 9004 unit complete, but need a victim, I mean test subject..I will have H4's ready probably by next week, I'm getting another 50 units, and do some H1, H7, and 9006 bases. Everyone loves the color of these kits.
As for Halogen vs HID, there is no comparison at all. I'm not saying this cause I sell HIDs. I say that because its an absolute fact. If I put my Maxima next to yours. You've got to be kidding me. If you wanted the output, turn on your highbeams, and annoy everyone on the road. I went through months of research and development making a product better than any other kit in the USA. Philips was easy to surpass, so was Osram/Hella, and Sylvania. The kits are brighter, and are OE for several JDM cars.
I know the price is high, but every penny is worth it.
Color-wise, the Plasmas look like tint, while the HID look like actual light. Hyperwhites don't even come close.
As for DOT legality, I will never get that, but according to the book, I meet all requirements for the kit.
Placement of light, minimal glare, and color.(HID kits have standards too.)
That $650 is your investment on safety, and performance.
Don't tell me about Plasma HID this, cost is too high this.
Would you rather have a HID system or have a bulb burn out at a very bad time in a dark area ?

-Best Regards.


I want! But we'll see.
Old May 10, 2001 | 11:54 AM
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Old May 11, 2001 | 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by 2000MaximaSE
Well just wait till one burns out for no good reason in 4 months and you are out 75 bucks. Only reason you dont like hid's is because you have never experienced them. I used to have piaa plasmas and they are NOWHERE near the color, quality and brilliance of my hid's You dont need to drive in woods to appreciate them. Just drive in the rain once and you will know what i mean

Adam
Adam:

WOuld like to make my corner lights blink with turn signal. How did you do it?

Thanks.

Paul
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