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Old 05-29-2005 | 08:59 AM
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Ebay Headers and Y-Pipe Advice Needed

OK. I am a impulse buyer and orderd the Ebay headers and Y-pipe combo before looking into the install issues. I got them today and they are well made with nice looking welds. However, I want to just install the Y-pipe for my 02 Max. I need a new exhaust anyway so............My question is has anyone here tried to bolt up the SSautchrome Y-pipe to the stock manifolds?
Old 05-29-2005 | 11:39 AM
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WHAT? don't the ebay headers come with a y-pipe. btw before and after DYNO that ****.
Old 05-29-2005 | 11:59 AM
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yeah mr. impulse that's a header/y-pipe combination....nice to see you pay attention to what you spend your money on.
Old 05-29-2005 | 01:30 PM
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Yeah I know- I already called myself stupid for that one. I thought I could seperate the Y-pipe from the headers and sell the headers - Anyway, I'm trying to find out if the SSautochrome Y-pipe, that is part of the header/Y-pipe combo, will fit my stock manifolds. If you go on Ebay and search headers and Maxima they will come up. For 280.00 they are a good buy I just decided that the install is too time consuming and expensive. My stock Y-pipe is rusted so it has to go. I may end up selling what I have and buying just the Y-pipe. I would hate to spend 400.00 for SS Y-pipe when what I have will work. My other alternative is to modify what I have but that I will compromise the SS. I live in the NY so I really want the SS. Thanks for all the help.
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what year is your max?
Old 05-29-2005 | 03:08 PM
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im guessing that it's an 02-03. just install the headers and y that you bought. the header install really isn't too difficult. it's just intimidating. do it yourself for free. If your max is a 02-03 and you need a new Y then just buy a used stock one off the .org. An aftermarket Y won't do anything for horsepower.
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Originally Posted by traderfjp
Yeah I know- I already called myself stupid for that one. I thought I could seperate the Y-pipe from the headers and sell the headers - Anyway, I'm trying to find out if the SSautochrome Y-pipe, that is part of the header/Y-pipe combo, will fit my stock manifolds.
If you can separate em and use em separately, then the "header" part or the manifolds of those that ya bought are just the same as stock manifolds with the precats punched out, I doubt anyone would really pay money for em.

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I would hate to spend 400.00 for SS Y-pipe when what I have will work. My other alternative is to modify what I have but that I will compromise the SS. I live in the NY so I really want the SS. Thanks for all the help.
If you're gonna spend $400 on a stainless y-pipe, just drop another $150 and get Hotshot headers.... or take the plunge with Warpspeed or Budget since their stainless y-pipes are like $250... but be wary of the possibility of fitment issues.
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what year is your max?
He has an 02...
Old 05-29-2005 | 04:12 PM
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Use the front manifold off the new headers and keep stock rear header and use the ypipe that came w/ the combo
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i just installed those on my car two days ago. the install was insane!!! it took 11 hours by a certified mechanic. had to take out the motor mounts, ac compressor, subframe connectors, etc etc just to get out the old headers. the new stuff bolted right in without any problems though. but the new y-pipe WILL NOT bolt to the stock headers. the flanges are different on the two pieces. also - the new headers/y-pipe is for a fed spec maxima. if you have a cali spec like i do, you will need to take the two post-cat o2 sensors and just zip tie them somewhere safe in the engine bay.
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I am having problem with installing the cattman Y-pipe, took it to meineke out here and they say the connector for sensor on the Y pipe is too far...why can be done for it to work???

2. how much HP do the Y-pipe give to the car????
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by the way its for an 02 max..
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I am having problem with installing the cattman Y-pipe, took it to meineke out here and they say the connector for sensor on the Y pipe is too far...why can be done for it to work???

2. how much HP do the Y-pipe give to the car????
Thanx in advanced...
1. Ya need to either extend the wires for the O2 sensors, or remove one of the clips that holds the wiring down for it to reach.

See here: http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...&postcount=139

2. About 6-8 whp tops.
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damn only 6-8whp???about when an intake is added??


thanx for the info. Puppetmaster
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OK. Deciscion made. Headers and Y-pipe are for sale. Where can I get a SS Y-pipe for 250.00 for an 02. Warp speed sells a non SS y-pipe for 160.00 and Budget doesn't offer one for my car. Please post a link where I can get one for 250.00. My other alternative is to get the Warpspeed for 160.00 and then when it rots worry about it. I'm in NY so I have no idea how long a non SS would last. Thanks again in advance.
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how much u selling the combo for?
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Originally Posted by traderfjp
Where can I get a SS Y-pipe for 250.00 for an 02. Warp speed sells a non SS y-pipe for 160.00 and Budget doesn't offer one for my car. Please post a link where I can get one for 250.00.
Both Warpspeed and Budget make stainless y-pipes for 02s... fitment however, is anyone's guess these days.... good luck.

http://www.warpspeedperformance.com/
Old 05-30-2005 | 02:31 PM
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Hmmm This is good news. I believe when I talked to Dallas from warpspeed he said they didn't make a SS B-pipe and sent me to Budget exhaust. I guess I confused the two. So for 250.00 I can get my SS Y-pipe. That's not to bad. By the way SSautochrome sells the Headers and Y-pipe for 290.00 with a buy it now. My username on Ebay is traderfjp and I have over 262 positives with one negative. (can't please everyone) Please email me if you're interested I can ship next day with UPS. I take paypal.
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i just picked mine up last nite bro, or i would have bought them. $270 shipped on ebay thru ssautochrome.

on another note, xs power/ss does not warranty any part of this kit.
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y dont they sell these headers for 00/01 maximas??

arent all the o1 and up maximas Cali spec? y do these headers require modefication for the o2 sensors?
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Hows the fitment of the ypipe and the headers totally installed? Did the low end torque feel a little weaker and the high end HP above 4k feel much stronger. What is your remaining exhaust setup and how did these headers effect the sound?

I have a good catback exhaust and like the low end torque with the stock manifolds/cats but would like a more efficient exhaust like my old 4th gen.

Let me know your thoughts on these ssautochrome headers.
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i just installed those on my car two days ago. the install was insane!!! it took 11 hours by a certified mechanic. had to take out the motor mounts, ac compressor, subframe connectors, etc etc just to get out the old headers. the new stuff bolted right in without any problems though. but the new y-pipe WILL NOT bolt to the stock headers. the flanges are different on the two pieces. also - the new headers/y-pipe is for a fed spec maxima. if you have a cali spec like i do, you will need to take the two post-cat o2 sensors and just zip tie them somewhere safe in the engine bay.
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3.5L headers will fit 3.0Ls just fine, I got HS headers with re-located front oxygen sensor- as the FRONT sensor that tells the ECU the air fuel ratio hits the AC compressor. As for the behind cat 02 sensors I dont even use them, I have 02 Sims to take care of the check engine light.

Gas mileage ROCKS with a full bolt on Maxima, let me tell ya the results 546 miles on 17.2 gallons of gasoline with 400lbs worth of beer, vodka, camping stuff. I never used the AC, and I tried to keep her at 70MPH all the time with cruise controll. Some of the driving was city driving also.
Old 05-31-2005 | 12:53 AM
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Im the very first one to try these headers on 02. the fitment is perfect, ive had them for months now and street race daily. no cracks or leaks yet! if you want them cheaper than the 280 ebay price. get them through a buddy of mine.
MNorisada@hotmail.com
or MN31877 on aim.. He gave me $220shipped. Im sure he can get you the same price.


Ill start a new thread later with pictures of them installed.
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Originally Posted by SmokinOdum
Im the very first one to try these headers on 02. the fitment is perfect, ive had them for months now and street race daily. no cracks or leaks yet! if you want them cheaper than the 280 ebay price. get them through a buddy of mine.
MNorisada@hotmail.com
or MN31877 on aim.. He gave me $220shipped. Im sure he can get you the same price.


Ill start a new thread later with pictures of them installed.
thats a great price. How much can he just get the headers for?
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Dyno runs?
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Dyno runs?


I'd wanna see those too before busting my @ss to put those headers in... even if they're only $250 or whatever...
Old 05-31-2005 | 10:26 AM
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hehe puppet would have said just spend the money on a cattman y-pipe, and hotshots instead of a ghetto y-pipe/header setup

Cosmetic mods from ebay... OK, but when it comes to anything thats more towards the mechanical side, order it from a GD or reputed website. Atleast they warrant the product where ebay wont.

Also looking forward to some dyno data.
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If no one has before and after dyno'd these headers i will be willing to do it in about a month. Just gotta check around and see prices on dyno runs around wichita,ks. If someone has already done a before and after dyno with just these headers though let me know so i dont waste my money.
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Dont cheap out, get a good y pipe, i got a cheaper one and its BEES IN A CAN , I HATE IT.
Old 05-31-2005 | 11:14 AM
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oh yeah and ssautochrome is junk, i knwo from personal experience
Old 05-31-2005 | 04:16 PM
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Do you have the SSautochrome headers. I do and they seem to be of high quality. The pipe is thick, the chrome looks great and the welds are awesome. I guess if you pay more then you feel like you bought a better product.
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Do you have the SSautochrome headers. I do and they seem to be of high quality. The pipe is thick, the chrome looks great and the welds are awesome. I guess if you pay more then you feel like you bought a better product.
Just to play devil's advocate here, how would you know the quality of something just because it looks good at the beginning. All new parts look new at the beginning but I'm sure that if its made poorly, it'll crap out regardless of how good the welds look and how thick the pipe is (I'm not sure how a thick pipe makes it good, if ya could, please elaborate on this).

Additionally, even if quality is good and it lasts forever, this says nothing about performance. Many will remain skeptical until someone posts before and after dynos, or at least an after-install dyno, of these headers to prove that they do provide gains worthy of spending the time and effort to install them.

Once again, I'm not trying to pick a fight, but just wanted ya to consider a couple of things about these headers.
Old 05-31-2005 | 07:03 PM
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I hear what you're saying and all I can say is that IMHO these headers look like a quality pipe. This is my opinion and I have actually got the chance to check the pipes out. They have awesome looking welds and the design of the flow looks great. I can't imagine how you can design a freer air flow. They're also made from a heavy SS pipe. These pipes are made in China and I would bet so are all the others. It's all about supply and demand and how much of a profit the retailer wants to make. It took a while for someone to come out with headers, Y-pipe, etc. for our cars but as more companies jump on the band wagon prices will go down. As far as performace I don't think you would see much of a difference between these headers and what the others are selling. And if there was a difference I would bet it was in the 5% range. Again I have no Dynos to back up my assumptions although I saw a Dyno for the SS headers that showed a huge gain in power. So you have to ask yourself do you want to spend just under 300.00 or 650.00 to 850.00 for headers. If you're a rich dude and have bucks to burn and having a brand name makes you sleep better at night then you should spend the bucks. If you're on a budget or like to save money then the lower priced headers are an alternative. Honestly my car is at the point where anymore power is useless without AWD which I believe will be an option on the next big Max upgrade along with a 300hp engine. I can chirp my tires in second - the car is a rocket and fun to drive. I also think (no flames) that the 02-03 may be the best performace model. It's lighter than the 04-5 cars by 300lbs., has a 6spd which I believe is not offered anymore and the 3.5L engine. Personally I love the look of the new Maxima and would give up a little performace for the newer look. Hey we're all entitled to our opinion.
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Originally Posted by traderfjp
I hear what you're saying and all I can say is that IMHO these headers look like a quality pipe. This is my opinion and I have actually got the chance to check the pipes out. They have awesome looking welds and the design of the flow looks great. I can't imagine how you can design a freer air flow. They're also made from a heavy SS pipe.
That's fine if its your opinion.

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These pipes are made in China and I would bet so are all the others.
Not always true... Cattman's last batch was made in New Zealand and the new batch is supposedly going to be domesticly produced.

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It's all about supply and demand and how much of a profit the retailer wants to make.
Supply and demand doesn't tell the whole story. That only holds true in a monopolistic industry. Theoretically, if all firms are identical, the retailers have no control over the profit they make because they cannot set prices, it depends on the quantity demanded by consumers.

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It took a while for someone to come out with headers, Y-pipe, etc. for our cars but as more companies jump on the band wagon prices will go down.
Not necessarily... increased supply does reduce prices, but that is assuming a comparable good... the reason why some seemingly comparable subsititutes remain at different prices is because people don't see them as so and continue to value them differently, and thus, market prices are different for those goods.

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As far as performace I don't think you would see much of a difference between these headers and what the others are selling.
They are different by design... so until we see dynos, we don't know for sure.

http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...1&postcount=26

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And if there was a difference I would bet it was in the 5% range. Again I have no Dynos to back up my assumptions although I saw a Dyno for the SS headers that showed a huge gain in power.
Post that dyno and we can discuss it.

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So you have to ask yourself do you want to spend just under 300.00 or 650.00 to 850.00 for headers. If you're a rich dude and have bucks to burn and having a brand name makes you sleep better at night then you should spend the bucks. If you're on a budget or like to save money then the lower priced headers are an alternative.
Fair enough. But it also would depend on whether the headers are worth getting, since most if they didn't provide enough gains to justify em, then most people wouldn't get em, regardless of how cheap they are. I would "sleep better at night" even if I had $150 headers which gave me 30 whp.

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Honestly my car is at the point where anymore power is useless without AWD
How much power do ya have? There are people who have 4th and 5th Gens with 350+ whp (FI of course) and they seem to be running fine with FWD.

Once again, not flaming ya, just providing some thoughts of my own.

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Well I'm glad we can have a discussion without it getting ugly. I don't want to defend the SS headers. They are what they are - a low cost solution for headers. I did see a Dyno with some nice gains but I'm not that interested to hunt it down.

I'd be interested on how some of the members are getting 350+hp. Do they have turbos?
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Well I'm glad we can have a discussion without it getting ugly.


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I'd be interested on how some of the members are getting 350+hp. Do they have turbos?
Turbos and superchargers... no SCs for the VQ35 though... at least not in a Maxima.

See this thread for developments on SSR's turbo kit for the 5.5th Gen (supposedly dynoing mid to high 300s whp):

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=378986

And the TC/SC forum for more on other Maximas:

http://forums.maxima.org/forumdisplay.php?f=53
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Chrome will turn dull on your headers within a month- normal with all SSChrome stuff. Friend of mine had headers on his 200SX from them, they turned all dull within a month.

Their turbo manifolds are nice looking- but at the same time they crack, and I seen ALOT of people complaining bout them. Their stuff is cheap, and you pretty much get what you pay for.
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i had a set sent to me to try out and dyno but the first y pipe was garbage...someone fell asleep while they were welding the merge after the flex and blew through the pipe and left a huge gob of spuge inside the pipe, so that went back. then the new one came and along with it ssautochrome's verification that it would fit w/o the headers (was going to do step by step dyno: stock, y, then headers and y.) went to install and things didn't look right, so i started laying everything out and the genious that welded the flanges on the headers and y didn't line them up cause the headers opened out to the side like this "<" not like this "v" to match up with the engine block. then i looked at the y pipe and realized as stated earlier, that the flanges were different, and then realized that i am glad i didn't pay for this and sent it back to the company that wanted me to do the testing for them. that's my experience...free wouldn't even get me to use these at this point. just my opinion from my experience. hope it helps.
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I had several guys email that bought the SS headers and said they installed fine and flet a nice power gain. Every company has problems with quality control at times.


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