5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003) Learn more about the 5th Generation Maxima, including the VQ30DE-K and VQ35DE engines.

Help!! Bought MAF without realizing the ECM needed upgrading

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 10, 2005 | 01:01 PM
  #1  
dougb's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 158
Help!! Bought MAF without realizing the ECM needed upgrading

Hi All,

Not knowing (I had read here of others replacing their's and assumed it was a do-it-yourself job) the ECM needed to be upgraded I bought the MAF and am now wondering if I can still install it and then get the upgrade later. Anyone have any info they could share? Thanks
Old Jun 10, 2005 | 06:05 PM
  #2  
Lontar1's Avatar
Puerto Rico-Maxima Lover
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,772
From: Florida
you can do the ECU upgrade later... I have spoken to DaveB and he told me that the reprogramming is not neccesary.... but do it when you can.. just as a routine maintenance.... good luck
Old Jun 11, 2005 | 01:04 AM
  #3  
importuner
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
it is required by nissan. in the box with the maf there should be a letter from nissan saying that it is required to reprogram the ecm and it's recommended that you change your air filter as well. if it wasnt required there wouldn't be a several page TSB on it.
Old Jun 11, 2005 | 02:59 AM
  #4  
Lontar1's Avatar
Puerto Rico-Maxima Lover
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,772
From: Florida
it is also required by nissan to do all the oil changes and regular maintenane in house....... see my point. but go ahead and do it as maintenence......
Old Jun 11, 2005 | 07:42 AM
  #5  
TDotMax's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,097
From: Toronto, Canada
I bought a used MAF, car runs smoother now but still has its moments where it feels like the MAF is gonna go again. Is that a sign of the ECU needing to be corrected as well?
Old Jun 11, 2005 | 08:15 PM
  #6  
sascuderi's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 1,329
From: South Jersey
I changed the MAF in my 2000 I30 to the newer "updated" one and did not flash the ECU at the dealer. That was over a year ago and the car runs better than ever.
Old Jun 12, 2005 | 11:02 AM
  #7  
I30swimmer's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 564
i never flashed my ECU , i replaced that MAF about 4 months ago, shes ran faster times than ever before

90,500K miles and still chuggin *****ES
Old Jun 12, 2005 | 11:11 AM
  #8  
NOCturnalI30's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 775
The ecu needs to get this done by thea dealer only?? I cant just unplug my negative and get the same results?
Old Jun 12, 2005 | 12:46 PM
  #9  
I30swimmer's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 564
no, its acctaully a reprogramming, not just a reset
Old Jun 12, 2005 | 01:09 PM
  #10  
attomica
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by sascuderi
I changed the MAF in my 2000 I30 to the newer "updated" one and did not flash the ECU at the dealer. That was over a year ago and the car runs better than ever.
Exactly the same situation for me. I just had the negative battery cable disconnected while I did the removal/replacement and when I reconnected evrything, the car ran like brand-new.
Old Jun 12, 2005 | 05:09 PM
  #11  
Stardust's Avatar
F---ing Kangaroos
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 2,912
From: Des Plaines, IL
Originally Posted by importuner
it is required by nissan. in the box with the maf there should be a letter from nissan saying that it is required to reprogram the ecm and it's recommended that you change your air filter as well. if it wasnt required there wouldn't be a several page TSB on it.
Stop spewing BS across the forums.
Old Jun 12, 2005 | 07:59 PM
  #12  
instil's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 460
Originally Posted by Stardust
Stop spewing BS across the forums.
Its not really required if the car will still run after you put in your new MAF,recommended maybe.
Im at about 52k and have all the classic symptoms of bad maf. Im going to replace mine myself and hope for good results, because i have lost too much power in the last 2-3 months. Then if that doesnt help i'll get it reprogrammed or checked for other issues.
Old Jun 12, 2005 | 08:21 PM
  #13  
Eric in Tempe's Avatar
Newbie - Just Registered
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2
From: Tempe, Arizona
I replaced my MAF 3-weeks ago and have been amazed at how much better the engine runs around town and especially on the highway. I called a local import repair shop before installing the MAF about the need for ECU reporgraming, and the shop said they just drop the MAFs in. I installed without reprogramming and now the engine power is back!

P.S. Got the MAF for $106 from one dealer, while another dealer wanted $650. The price difference reason? The $106 item was a section of the intake plenum with the MAF already installed; the $650 price was for the MAF sensor alone.
Old Jun 12, 2005 | 08:37 PM
  #14  
instil's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 460
Originally Posted by Eric in Tempe
I replaced my MAF 3-weeks ago and have been amazed at how much better the engine runs around town and especially on the highway. I called a local import repair shop before installing the MAF about the need for ECU reporgraming, and the shop said they just drop the MAFs in. I installed without reprogramming and now the engine power is back!

P.S. Got the MAF for $106 from one dealer, while another dealer wanted $650. The price difference reason? The $106 item was a section of the intake plenum with the MAF already installed; the $650 price was for the MAF sensor alone.
that was probably a great feeling when you got that power back....you dont really notice how weak your Max got since it happens slowly over time. Im hoping i have the same results as you and many other .org peeps.
I only need the $106 part,i have a 2001...i saw that same thing with the really expensive MAF...theres already a whole 'nother thread about that from like 3 weeks ago
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 07:55 AM
  #15  
p621806's Avatar
Newbie - Just Registered
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 5
not sure if this is the spot for it... but I have a 2000 GLE ECU/ECM available. It's a rebuild that was guaranteed to work. I had it put in and it did work... 100%, but it didn't solve the problem (which was two fold... bad speed sensor and thermostat). Either way, i've kept my original ECU/ECM and looking to help someone else out. I paid $275 for but will part with it for the best reasonable offer i get... email enelius@yahoo.com if you are interested (or know somebody who would be)... thanks.... oh yeah... it's for a 2000 GLE w/o heated seats.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:21 AM
  #16  
nadeemp8's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 807
From: Houston, TX.
replaced about 6 months ago and didn't reflash the ECU and haven't had a prob since
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 10:37 AM
  #17  
craigomax's Avatar
Newbie - Just Registered
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 10
I replaced my MAF a month ago and my car has never run better. I was planning on having the ECU reflashed, but now I'll just hold off and maybe do as regular maintenance. I purchased mine from Dave B. for like $80. Best $80 I ever spent on my Max.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 02:49 PM
  #18  
TDotMax's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,097
From: Toronto, Canada
As I stated before I got a used one. The ECU now seemed to pick it up and reset itself. It is running so nice now. Would a newer MAF be even better? Is this because the program or part has changed? If so I'll order one from Courtesy Nissan
Old Jun 15, 2005 | 09:48 AM
  #19  
geenowalker's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 239
replaced MAF 6 months ago and car sputtered after restarting. took to dealer to "get and oil change" and when they drove the car, they obviously noticed the problem. They flashed for free as it only takes seconds. Cost me $19.99.
Old Jun 15, 2005 | 10:02 AM
  #20  
oldngivout's Avatar
Willing to learn
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,277
From: Murfreesboro, TN
Just to shed a little more light on the situation:

If you have installed the new MassAirflow without the ECU re-program and obtained great results, you may have stumbled on it accidentally. If you read the TSB fully, after installing the new part it requires you to match your ECU part number with several numbers listed in the TSB. If yours is one of the ones listed, no re-programming is necessary.

So evidently not all ECU's will require re-programming in order to work properly with the new part. And of course they may all work just fine without it, but for some reason Nissan recommends this procedure for some.
Old Jun 15, 2005 | 08:50 PM
  #21  
instil's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 460
Originally Posted by oldngivout
Just to shed a little more light on the situation:

If you have installed the new MassAirflow without the ECU re-program and obtained great results, you may have stumbled on it accidentally. If you read the TSB fully, after installing the new part it requires you to match your ECU part number with several numbers listed in the TSB. If yours is one of the ones listed, no re-programming is necessary.

So evidently not all ECU's will require re-programming in order to work properly with the new part. And of course they may all work just fine without it, but for some reason Nissan recommends this procedure for some.
Can somebody post a link to this MAF tsb.....i cant find it
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
smplyamzng
6th Generation Classifieds (2004-2008)
1
Dec 13, 2015 01:19 PM
TonyJr
3rd Generation Maxima (1989-1994)
4
Aug 20, 2015 12:14 AM
220k+ A32
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
10
Aug 17, 2015 03:57 PM
doobadoo
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
2
Aug 15, 2015 06:43 PM
Samedi
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
11
Aug 13, 2015 04:05 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:19 PM.