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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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How do I adjust my Stillen RSB and how does it affect handling?

I can't remember how to adjust my rsb. Is it if I move the rsb away from the front of the car behind the beam add roll stiffness or the other way around?
Old Jun 12, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by divisions
I can't remember how to adjust my rsb. Is it if I move the rsb away from the front of the car behind the beam add roll stiffness or the other way around?
do you have a stillen one?
i think the only way you can adjust it is to move the bracket forward or backwards on the control arm. i dont think that will make any diffirence. the whole point of an RSB is to tie both the control arms and the axle beam together so everything goes up and down at once instead of one side by itself. i dont understand what adjustments would need to be made and if it would do anything diffirent
Old Jun 12, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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The Stillen RSB is adjustable, unlike the addco/progress bar. I just can't remeber how to adjust it.
Old Jun 12, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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i think if you push the brackets further back it stiffens the bar... and if you place them more toward the front of the car it doenst make the bar as stiff. I remember reading a thread where people had the sway bar too stiff and it would cause drivers to easily spin out during long sweeping turns like onramps at the freeway during an intersection change.
Old Jun 12, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ChromeSE5
i think if you push the brackets further back it stiffens the bar... and if you place them more toward the front of the car it doenst make the bar as stiff. I remember reading a thread where people had the sway bar too stiff and it would cause drivers to easily spin out during long sweeping turns like onramps at the freeway during an intersection change.
I think it's the other way around. When I had mine install I made it the same as my friend's setup, toward the front which is more stiff. Haven't spun or felt any lost of control during turns on an interchange. The car stays planted though.
Old Jun 12, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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i meant the brackets but you are right also... cause my bar is in front of the rear beam which seems as if it would have more effect on the rear suspension.... but my brackets are near the rear of the rear sway bar to make it tighter... or so i believe... maybe someone who understands physics better can chime in
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 02:13 AM
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yea, front= oversteer. should be placed right under the beam. too far back and the scissor linkages will bump on it, i mean WILL bump. as smooth as the neutral understeer feels, it bumps...i tried
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 05:30 AM
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I was going to order the Progress RSB from custommaxima.com. I did not know they were not adjustable, are you guys sure of this?
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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who cares about adjustability
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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I dunno, is it even important to have adjustability, or are progress/stillen about the same? from reading several threads, you can control oversteer better with an adjustable stillen. anyone have a bad opinion about progress rsb? lemme know, i was going to buy one today, but not sure which one to get now.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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properly installed they should be the same, i kind of wish i saved a little bit of money and went progress instead of stealin, o well
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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My bar came with instructions. I think for the best stability make the blocks as far as appart as possible. On 2K set up, not sure (I'll need to look at the instructions) but I think it's 2nd and 5th hole from the bar ends. When installed it comes on the inside of two bolt heads and grooves on blocks overlap them on control arms. Also make the long side be directly under the main rear wheel beam... Here is the write up for it: http://vqpower.tripod.com/rsb.htm
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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I remembered that I had a saved write up just at the end of my typing, I used it to install my RSB just a few weeks ago :-)
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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wtf, everywhere i looked the stillen bar is more expensive than the progress. where did you guys get yours, (both stillen and progress)?
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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it's probably more expensize since you have the ability to adjust it. Adjustable parts are nice and I believe worth the extra money than non adjustable parts. You can tailor them to your exact driving style.

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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by chr0nos
wtf, everywhere i looked the stillen bar is more expensive than the progress. where did you guys get yours, (both stillen and progress)?
FORSALE forums is one of the best place to et stuff, even hough mine was used i still got it for $80.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by chr0nos
wtf, everywhere i looked the stillen bar is more expensive than the progress. where did you guys get yours, (both stillen and progress)?
The RSB I have is not authentic Stillen. I bought it off ebay and is identical to the Stillen RSB, but about half price. I got mine for $110 shipped
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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Does anybody here that has a Progress RSB wish they got a Stillen RSB instead? Do you think adjustability is important, or a moot point? I think its great, but if the Progress RSB is designed well, it may not make a huge difference.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ChromeSE5
i think if you push the brackets further back it stiffens the bar...
The brackets stay where they are!

The bar has holes in it and you can move the bar towards the front or rear of the car.

Unless you are auto-xing I doubt you will be able to feel the difference.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by theMax
Unless you are auto-xing I doubt you will be able to feel the difference.
Not true.

Running along the highway and coming up to an exit, you can definitely notice when you can take that exit at 60, 65mph... instead of 30 or 35mph.

Take a corner real fast and you will notice. It is definitely one of THE best mods to do to a Max. Especially 5th Gen.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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the addco is adjustable. you move the brackets under the beam closer to one another for more flex and further towards the ends for less sway. i have personally tried it both ways and i prefer for my suspension to have a little play and it feels much less bound up on hard cornering.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sloppymax
the addco is adjustable. you move the brackets under the beam closer to one another for more flex and further towards the ends for less sway. i have personally tried it both ways and i prefer for my suspension to have a little play and it feels much less bound up on hard cornering.


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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by theMax
The brackets stay where they are!

The bar has holes in it and you can move the bar towards the front or rear of the car.
i meant bringing the brackets closer to the center of the beam... like in the left side of my awesome CG illustration of the RSB.. but i feel that is what makes the bar stiffer.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Army of Maxima
Not true.

Running along the highway and coming up to an exit, you can definitely notice when you can take that exit at 60, 65mph... instead of 30 or 35mph.

Take a corner real fast and you will notice. It is definitely one of THE best mods to do to a Max. Especially 5th Gen.
I think he means you won't notice the difference between having the RSB installed where it is now and if you move it a few inches back.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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few inches is pretty significant....every time i play with mine i can tell the diff
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by chr0nos
Does anybody here that has a Progress RSB wish they got a Stillen RSB instead? Do you think adjustability is important, or a moot point? I think its great, but if the Progress RSB is designed well, it may not make a huge difference.
I switched from Progress to Stillen only because I use to get this awful klunk everytime I went over a speed bumps, into a driveway, or dips in the freeway (esp. if there were passengers in the back). Because the bar is mounted to the rear axel by the urethane bushings, it causes the axel to snap back into place hence the klunk. And it sounds like you're bottoming out. I never had to chance to adjust the bushings because some people said it would eliminate the problem. I figured I would just bite the bullet and get the stillen. I did. I'm happy now. No klunk! But in retrospect I wish I went with the Stillen RSB in the first place.

I can say both the progress and stillen RSBs does what it supposed to do, eliminate body roll and keep the car planted and flat in the turns. Both bars are adjustable in it's own way. It's a matter of user preference and how much you want to spend, IMHO. I hope this helps.
Old Jun 15, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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I switched from Progress to Stillen only because I use to get this awful klunk everytime I went over a speed bumps, into a driveway, or dips in the freeway (esp. if there were passengers in the back). Because the bar is mounted to the rear axel by the urethane bushings, it causes the axel to snap back into place hence the klunk. And it sounds like you're bottoming out. I never had to chance to adjust the bushings because some people said it would eliminate the problem. I figured I would just bite the bullet and get the stillen. I did. I'm happy now. No klunk! But in retrospect I wish I went with the Stillen RSB in the first place.

I can say both the progress and stillen RSBs does what it supposed to do, eliminate body roll and keep the car planted and flat in the turns. Both bars are adjustable in it's own way. It's a matter of user preference and how much you want to spend, IMHO. I hope this helps.
what do you mean "adjust the bushings"? i just paid for a used progress, and want to make sure i do it right. i did see a thread somewhere, where with passengers in the back seat it hit the axel. anyone have a thread, or know how to eliminate this banging?
Old Jun 15, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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if you were clunking it was a little too far back.....progress works just fine
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by chr0nos
what do you mean "adjust the bushings"? i just paid for a used progress, and want to make sure i do it right. i did see a thread somewhere, where with passengers in the back seat it hit the axel. anyone have a thread, or know how to eliminate this banging?
Here's an old pic of when I had the progress. I never tired it but a fellow org-er said moving the bushing out increases the effectiveness of the RSB. Moving it in decreases the effectiveness, but it gets rid of the klunk. Someone correct me if i'm wrong. So I think that's what you heard about the passengers in the back seat hit the axel.

The other arrow points to the arm that connects to the rear beam. That is the area where the klunk sound comes from.

Oh and before I forget. Here's something I bookmarked which will help you.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....&highlight=rsb
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ighettoboyi
if you were clunking it was a little too far back.....progress works just fine
I don't understand what was a little too far back. The Progress RSB is mounted to the rear beam via the bushings so the bar can't move forward or back. Are you talking about the brackets?
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 06:33 AM
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cool, thanks to everyone for help and linx.
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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yes the brackets, the linkages/arm is what's hitting it, you have to make sure the bar sits directly under the beam..
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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I think he means you won't notice the difference between having the RSB installed where it is now and if you move it a few inches back.
yep, I like the RSB, although I got more results from a set of springs, it is a good mod.
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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No, no, no. The progress is adjustable. Read the onfo. I have it and BTW the clunk is on the right side not the left. Oh, yes you need to adjust the side brackets not the center ones. The center ones are only there to hold the bar in place. The side brackets is what you need to adjust for stiffness. They say closer to rear makes tighter.
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