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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:08 AM
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which to buy 01 max or 02 max?

hi i have 15 thousand dollars to spend on a car right now i was looking into going forced induction later on and i will be getting an automatic because so much traffic around here. so anyways in yours guys oppinions which one shoudl i buy? i know i can supercharge the 01 but not the 02 so thats kinda sux.which one would you suggest and why?
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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I'd say neither, cuz if it's 'matic clip, then you won't enjoy it anyway, so just get the 1.8 sentra
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:23 AM
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2001 5spd!!!!!! auto = poop
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:27 AM
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If your getting Auto you have to get the 02, the 3.0 auto is crap , yet the 02 auto can still haul ***.
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Blkmax2k1
2001 5spd!!!!!! auto = poop
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He stated he was going to get an autmatic, so 5M out of the question.

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I'd say neither, cuz if it's 'matic clip, then you won't enjoy it anyway, so just get the 1.8 sentra
I enjoy my auto 3.5L all day long ..

02 Hands down, you might even be able to get an 03 for that price.

HID's, gobs of torque, VQ35DE.... Not that there's anything wrong with a DEK, but in automatic form, it just falls below the torque threshhold to hang with 5 speeds of the same 3.0L.
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:33 AM
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the auto can still be fun, but you just have a lot more problems with the tranny later on down the road, particularly the 5.5 gen auto....but if i had a choice, i think i would get the 2k1 auto....the reason being is becuase i've heard of a lot of 5.5 genner's trannys blowing (as well as 5th gens, just not as many so quickly) and my mom's 2000 auto tranny has over 200K on it right now and it's still going....and that car is no slouch either...it may be slower than the 5.5 gen or the 5th gen 5-speed, but it still moves....
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by maxilvr06
the auto can still be fun, but you just have a lot more problems with the tranny later on down the road, particularly the 5.5 gen auto.....
And you speak from experience or from what you read on the internet?

And one again, invalid post since he stated 5M =
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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First of all the auto isn't CRAP,you can really tell the gears are super long when your foot mashes the pedal.

(For all you procrastenators out there, I do know how to drive a stick as well.)
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:36 AM
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can you get the 02 max auto to 300 wheel hp somehow with out nitros? cuz thats my project goal, and i know if i supercharge the auto 01 it can do that with some other mods.
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxedOut2003
If your getting Auto you have to get the 02, the 3.0 auto is crap , yet the 02 auto can still haul ***.

....never a shortage of power even with the 4AT.
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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and he wants FI so 02's are out of the question!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AcerX
,you can really tell the gears are super long when your foot mashes the pedal.
Super long gears = for accleration. But the 3.5L handles this quite well considering how long they are .... IF only they introduced the 5M a year or 2 earlier. Oh well, it still hasn't showed tha much improvement in 1/4 times.
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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ok stock vs. stock which one will win the 02 or 01 auto?
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dima87
ok stock vs. stock which one will win the 02 or 01 auto?

Depends on who's driving.
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenSeMax
I'd say neither, cuz if it's 'matic clip, then you won't enjoy it anyway, so just get the 1.8 sentra
Wow that was real useful info right there.... I agree with ^^^
the 02/03 is still really fun as an automatic although I wish sometimes I had gotten the 6 speed. But I agree with you on the traffic thing, my previous car was a 5 speed and it got a little old after awhile. So I would definitely recommend getting the 5.5th gen over the 5th gen.
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Originally Posted by Blkmax2k1
and he wants FI so 02's are out of the question!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He really doesn't need to do that to the 3.5L. One thing that baffles my mind, you want to s/c, but want to stay auto I realize autos are ultimately the best drag machine, but what are your actual goals for this car? Everyday driver, weekend strip car, show car?
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Super long gears = for accleration. But the 3.5L handles this quite well considering how long they are .... IF only they introduced the 5M a year or 2 earlier. Oh well, it still hasn't showed tha much improvement in 1/4 times.

True, but once I hit 2nd its usually over in a matter of moments anyway.
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Originally Posted by dima87
ok stock vs. stock which one will win the 02 or 01 auto?
If they're both autmoatic and stock, I would have my bets on the 02.
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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00-01 with 222hp (AE 227) and 02-03 255hp....of course if both is auto the VQ35 would win...

Originally Posted by dima87
ok stock vs. stock which one will win the 02 or 01 auto?
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by AcerX
True, but once I hit 2nd its usually over in a matter of moments anyway.
So you're saying you could take my 03 with your 01 once you "hit" 2nd, and you're auto correct?
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by AcerX
Depends on who's driving.
Are you serious???? If they are stock for stock automatics, why would the driver matter? Just stomp the gas and hold on! And the stock 3.5VQ would beat the 3.0. Numbers don't lie.
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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my goals are i want a fast street car , i plan on doing a full exhaust from the engine back with headers and all, intake, pullies, maybe cams later on. right now i got a 96 ford taurus wagon, 145hp and 3800lb's really slow, and i get killed on the street buy ever little saturn and rusted civic, i want something that can beat some cars on the road.
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
And you speak from experience or from what you read on the internet?

And one again, invalid post since he stated 5M =
yeah i drove a 5.5 gen auto and it was actually really fun and surprisingly responsive! most autos have that damn lag when you hit the throttle, but the max had almost telepathic shifting....i mean, don't get me wrong, i would buy a 5.5 gen auto if i didn't know how to drive or didn't want a standard, but i just know for a fact that the 5th gen trannys are very strong considering my mom's has lasted about 205k miles (and trust me, she gets that thing to redline every single day...) and i can't really say the same thing about the 5.5 gen autos, because so far, the longest lasting auto that i've heard of (yes, i'm sure there are others, but this is based off of what i see on the .org so don't get your panties in a wad..) was GBAUER at something like 110k when it blew...
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TXT-1
Are you serious???? If they are stock for stock automatics, why would the driver matter? Just stomp the gas and hold on! And the stock 3.5VQ would beat the 3.0. Numbers don't lie.

He didn't specify the TYPE of race... drag --yes, road with curves --not so much.
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
So you're saying you could take my 03 with your 01 once you "hit" 2nd, and you're auto correct?

Drag no, road course--I don't know? How good of a driver are you?
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:50 AM
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Umm yea, I'm sure that's what he meant, a road with curves....
In that case, my GF's Ford Focus would beat me in the curvies.
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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i am pretty good, i once won a solo road corse in my old celica.
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:55 AM
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how good is the 02's maximas power steering pump? i read somewhere that its pretty weak, i think on autoweek magazine.
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by maxilivr06
yeah i drove a 5.5 gen auto and it was actually really fun and surprisingly responsive!
I rest my case. I was speaking in terms of experience of owning 5.5g auto, not driving one, and you proved my point, and told me what you read on the Internet

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i just know for a fact that the 5th gen trannys are very strong considering my mom's has lasted about 205k miles (and trust me, she gets that thing to redline every single day...) .
Your moms 5th gen tranny and your tranny are different .. Not sure if you knew that



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He didn't specify the TYPE of race... drag --yes, road with curves --not so much
They have the same suspension and the 02 has better brakes kid.


Originally Posted by dima87
my goals are i want a fast street car , i plan on doing a full exhaust from the engine back with headers and all, intake, pullies, maybe cams later on. right now i got a 96 ford taurus wagon, 145hp and 3800lb's really slow, and i get killed on the street buy ever little saturn and rusted civic, i want something that can beat some cars on the road.
Keep dreaming, this thread was cool, until you went that far to say all that. Shows how much you know about the Maxima.


Power steering is fine, believe what you read on here before motorweek.
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I rest my case. I was speaking in terms of experience of owning 5.5g auto, not driving one, and you proved my point, and told me what you read on the Internet
remind me how that information was 'what i read on the internet'? i think i would know just a little something about the tranny if i drove the car...this isn't all about 'what i hear on the internet'...

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Your moms 5th gen tranny and your tranny are different .. Not sure if you knew that
uhh..yeah i kinda know..that was the point i was trying to make this entire time...that the 5th gen tranny APPEARS to be stronger because of the lesser amount of torque from the VQ30..

just because you have a 5.5 gen auto doesn't mean it's the best thing in the world...get over it..
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxedOut2003
If your getting Auto you have to get the 02, the 3.0 auto is crap , yet the 02 auto can still haul ***.

The 5.5gen auto tranny is also really unrelliable

Look around the forum and you can see all the problems people have had, many are on there second or third.

On Topic, I would get a 5.5gen anyway, if traffic is your concern still get a six speed, its only annoying for the first week then it becomes second nature. You also get more power to the ground, and as far as FI, you can always do a custom turbo.
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I have 4th gen auto, and it's the same as a 5.0 gen auto, with a slightly shorter final drive. My only point was to make sure you don't mis-inform our dreamer here the wrong information about the transmission.

You're comparing apples to oranges with your moms 5M, and the auto 4A. I agree, I've read many posts on here about "blown" 5.5g trannys.

Mine was slipping bad, and i was , but after a VB mod, it's perfectly fine.

And you have to look outside of the box, look at Jime, he runs his car at the track ALL THE TIME, hundreds of passes on N2O, N/A .. etc. and not a problem thus far ....
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I have 4th gen auto, and it's the same as a 5.0 gen auto, with a slightly shorter final drive. My only point was to make sure you don't mis-inform our dreamer here the wrong information about the transmission.

You're comparing apples to oranges with your moms 5M, and the auto 4A. I agree, I've read many posts on here about "blown" 5.5g trannys.

Mine was slipping bad, and i was , but after a VB mod, it's perfectly fine.

And you have to look outside of the box, look at Jime, he runs his car at the track ALL THE TIME, hundreds of passes on N2O, N/A .. etc. and not a problem thus far ....
o ****...lol we've been arguing this whole time under a misunderstanding ...my mom has a 4A! lol! that's what i was saying is that if it's lasted that long, i would think it would be a bit more reliable then the 5.5 gen auto...get me now?
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