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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 07:28 AM
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Basic Suspension Package from Cattman review

I was just wondering if anybody installed Basic Suspension Package from Cattman (front tower brace, rear sway bar.) My suspension is otherwise completely stock. How do you people think my max will behave? Will it still keep understeering but just not as much or it’ll start oversteering? How does the sway bar affect maximum g forces?
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 07:40 AM
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you can get an OTTO fstb, which is a generic copy of cattman for much cheaper off ebay. You can get a regualar generic fstb even cheaper than that, i think they all perform about the same. There are several RSBs, and I prefer Progress rsb, because it's thicker, and not hollow, like cattman. It also clamps to your car in 4 different mount points, two on the side, and two to the axle. This will be the most effective suspension mod. You can also find a generic rear tower strut brace on ebay, those run about $40 i beleive.
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Originally Posted by chr0nos
you can get an OTTO fstb, which is a generic copy of cattman for much cheaper off ebay. You can get a regualar generic fstb even cheaper than that, i think they all perform about the same. There are several RSBs, and I prefer Progress rsb, because it's thicker, and not hollow, like cattman. It also clamps to your car in 4 different mount points, two on the side, and two to the axle. This will be the most effective suspension mod. You can also find a generic rear tower strut brace on ebay, those run about $40 i beleive.
Actually, the OTTO is a copy of the Stillen FSTB... and the Cattman RSB is made by Progress and is essentially the same thing. Quote from Cattman site is "Rear anti-roll bar; engineered and fabricated exclusively for Cattman Performance by Progress Technologies."
The Progress bar is thinner than the Stillen bar, but is solid, while the Stillen bar is thicker but hollow.
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Originally Posted by DrKlop
I was just wondering if anybody installed Basic Suspension Package from Cattman (front tower brace, rear sway bar.) My suspension is otherwise completely stock. How do you people think my max will behave? Will it still keep understeering but just not as much or it’ll start oversteering? How does the sway bar affect maximum g forces?
I have an OTTO FSTB and Progrss RSB, my thoughts are in the following thread:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=412478

For comments on the effects with a stock suspension, I'm sure the effects will be very similar but just to a larger degree. There are plenty of posts out there about that, so just do a search to find em, either via the instructions in the Stickies or just by reading through the earlier pages.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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I had the otto bar. Then i bought the cattman rsb and the FSTB. I dont regret the decision at all. The otto over time tarnished and was uncleanable The cattman FSTB is a lot lighter and looks a heck of a lot better in my opinion. But granted the otto is dirt cheap.
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
Actually, the OTTO is a copy of the Stillen FSTB... and the Cattman RSB is made by Progress and is essentially the same thing. Quote from Cattman site is "Rear anti-roll bar; engineered and fabricated exclusively for Cattman Performance by Progress Technologies."
The Progress bar is thinner than the Stillen bar, but is solid, while the Stillen bar is thicker but hollow.
ur right.


i think the progress is superior because it mounts to the fram on the side, and to the axle on the back. seems like it would have less flex this way.
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will the sway bar make the car oversteer? if yes, how much oversteer?
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Originally Posted by DrKlop
will the sway bar make the car oversteer? if yes, how much oversteer?
Assuming nothing is done to your struts/springs, yes, the RSB will make the car oversteer. I hear that the effect is less on a lowered car; I installed my RSB only after I was lowered, so I'm not sure how that compares with a stock struts/springs set-up with an RSB.

How much oversteer? I'm not sure how to quantify that.
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Some info here as well:

https://maxima.org/faq-5-Suspension.html#39
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is the stealin really hollow? i thought it was solid...
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Originally Posted by joebangaa
is the stealin really hollow? i thought it was solid...

I think he meants the RSB ?

the Front STealing tower bar is solid I belive


when I order the RSB from stillen for my Altima..the bar came as suspension tech. which stillen never produce.

I could be wrong what puppet was applying on the hollow part (ftsb or rsb)

Tho in the past Stillen carried Suspension Tech, Ive never saw any 2000 and up Maxima parts from Stillen.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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Cattman all the way.
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
... and the Cattman RSB is made by Progress and is essentially the same thing. Quote from Cattman site is [I]"Rear anti-roll bar; engineered and fabricated exclusively for Cattman Performance by Progress Technologies."
Sorry to bump and old thread.

How are the RSB from Cattman and Progress bars found elsewhere different? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Zoli Elo
Sorry to bump and old thread.

How are the RSB from Cattman and Progress bars found elsewhere different? Thanks.
huh??
do you mean "where else can you find them?"

www.google.com
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
The Progress bar is thinner than the Stillen bar, but is solid, while the Stillen bar is thicker but hollow.
Joel, i disagree. Having recently had the stillen RSB off the car for a couple hours to get to other stuff, it most definitely does not feel (weight-wise) like it is hollow. It's most certainly heavier than the Progress bar (without the hardware...)
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Originally Posted by Fezzik
The otto over time tarnished and was uncleanable .
It's aluminum...if it tarnishes, use some aluminum polish or fine steel wool. Or paint it. I've had mine on for 2 years, and it is still completely shiny (and I don't polish it or clean it very often).

not like anyone is gonna see it anyways
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
huh??
do you mean "where else can you find them?"

www.google.com
No, no. We have a GB with Cattman going on over at G20.net. I was just curious if there was a difference in the bars sold at Cattman over Progress bars sold by other venders.
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all FSTBs do the exact same thing
all RSBs do the exact same thing

looks dont matter cause you dont see them

so i guess it all comes down to how much you want to spend
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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True, but in this case, use on a G20, design is important for it is known that the Cattman brand is a direct bolt-on. From various threads here on Maxima.org it has become clear that Progress is also a direct fit. Thanks again for your help, guys.
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Originally Posted by DrKlop (very long time ago)
I was just wondering if anybody installed Basic Suspension Package from Cattman (front tower brace, rear sway bar.) My suspension is otherwise completely stock. How do you people think my max will behave? Will it still keep understeering but just not as much or it’ll start oversteering? How does the sway bar affect maximum g forces?
damn, who the hack posted such a newbish thread.
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Zoli Elo
No, no. We have a GB with Cattman going on over at G20.net. I was just curious if there was a difference in the bars sold at Cattman over Progress bars sold by other venders.
no difference, they are identical.
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