i have an injen intake and its a pain to get the filter off. so i would like to have a short intake, instead of paying 100$ for a frankencar can i just make the short intake with out the small pipe just maf and filter? or do i need that small pipe. is there a reason for this pipe. also anyone know were i can get one for cheap like i said dont wanna pay 100$ thank you

 

I know with the Berk, the mid-pipe helps curb some of the low-end torque loss. When I had my intake on I noticed that loss but maybe it's more pronounced without the mid-pipe. If you don't have the pipe you still have to have part of the stock box installed to the TB. The mid-pipe allows you to replace the stock box entirely up to the TB.

Hope this helps.

GL

 

thanxs for the quick reply. what iam saying is i dont want anything there just the parts to connect it. i just looked at stillins and they dont have a midpipe it doesnt say if u need to use ure stock midpipe.i dont want to loose low end being we barly have it in the first place but will it hurt or anything without it if it does ill try and make one or look on ebay or something i just dont think that midpipe is worth 100$ thanxs for ure help.

 

The 2k2/2k3 has plenty of low end torque.

 

If you can make it your own, more power to you. I like Berk's because of the build quality and how light it is. If you are asking if you can hook your cone filter to your MAF coupled directly to your TB, I don't think that is possible. In the 5th gen there are three vacuum lines that are connected to the midpipe. These lines have no purpose if you stick the intake directly to the TB. Am I hearing you correctly?

 

Essentially but if we really felt that none of us would be on the org.

 

thats what iam saying no midpipe. i dont use the vacume hoses anyway on my injen i have brether filters and a rubber stoper on the injen so the air doesnt get sucked in on the midpipe. iam not saying the max has no low end just saying it could be better i think. i dont think its the enging i think its the tranny because of its shift speed like at 32 it wount downshift. well i loose alot of time right there but all in all its the best car i could of every bought in my opinion i love it but anyway i just wanna know if the no midpipe will hurt thanx andrew

 

well i made one this weekend out of a maf adapter and filter. i cant imagine an intake being much better in terms of performance and sound. it cost me 25 for the filter and 15 for the adapter. the adapter doesnt line up right for the 3.5, but a drill can fix that easy, i dont have one though.


the only problem i had was that the filter touches the strut tower, so it rattled, but a piece of foam weather stripping fixed that issue easy.

jim

 

thats what i have but i dont have or want to use the stock "midpipe" can i just use t/b coupled to maf to addapter to filter or will this mess up the engine if it will that cool i wont do it i would like to know the size of the pipe if possibel so i can make one and use it thanxs again for all ure imput

 

Punctuation is your friend.

 

thanx it was 9am when i wrote that iam in korea right now. and i just woke up sorry but the qusetion was, can i have the intake without the midpipe? not if i passed english class but thanx

 

Well there's your problem. Sell your Civic and get a Maxima.

 

Hey, I was born there!

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first off i dont have a civic i love my max very much so please dont call it a civic i was just saying and ive seen some posts befor that we could use some better low end thats all not saying its bad sorry if it came across that way. and the reason it was said was because someone in a prevous post siad i might loose low end thats all please some help me out ill be doing this on my leave in a few weeks just wanna know if it will hurt the engine thanx u . thats kool dude being born here i think its not tobad not for me tho but iam married and my wife couldnt come so but iam in kunsan in the south of south korea

 

The Injen "CAI" is a one-piece intake, right? I know that some people with two-piece cold air intakes can remove the lower pipe and attach the filter directly to the end of the upper pipe, basically turning their cold air intakes into short warm air intakes.

Since this isn't an option for you, it sounds like you want to do away with the pipe entirely. I guess you could just go TB > coupler > MAF sensor > MAF adapter > air filter. One problem that I can see with this setup would be a lack of clearance for the filter. I just don't know if there's room to fit the filter in at that angle so close to the throttle body. The brake fluid reservoir and driver's side strut tower might get in the way.

 

kool thanx u so much for being a big help in answering my question thanx u. i will see if it will work u are prob right it way not clear i was worried about blowing the maf cause of the short distance. as long as its not bad for the engine being so close ill give it a try and let u know what happeneds thanx again.

 

A high volume of incoming air is good, but remember that our cars calculate incoming airflow indirectly based on the temperature of a hot wire in the MAF sensor. The MAF sensor might be a little warmer than normal if you run this setup, since the air that you'll be pulling in may be slightly warmer than the air you're currently getting from your Injen "CAI," which is really just a long warm air intake anyway.

Another possible concern is vibration, which may or may not be harmful to MAF sensors. I've read about one or two Maxima owners and MANY Sentra owners who believe that excessive vibration from poorly mounted or poorly supported intakes has killed their MAF sensors. You probably noticed that the stock intake has a large flexible coupling hose and a plastic box between the MAF sensor and the TB. Your Injen intake probably uses semi-flexible silicon couplers to connect the pipe to the TB. If you still have the large flexible piece that used to connect to the TB from your stock intake, you might want to try using it to go directly between the TB and the MAF sensor for this new setup. If it turns out to be too big, you could try connecting the MAF sensor to the TB using the silicon coupler that goes between the Injen pipe and the TB.

 

I'm currently running just the upper pipe portion of the Injen intake (TB/upper pipe/MAF/adpater/filter). I switched to this setup a few months ago, and it has been an improvement over running the full intake as it was intended. It sounds comparable to the Berk and FC, only difference is that it places the filter further forward between the battery and engine. I highly suggest trying this setup if you are not satisfied with your Injen.

 

wow u are a smart guy i should have thought of that damn i fell dumb, anyway thanx u it sounds perfect i hope u dont mind me using ure idea. if not thanxs ill use it sounds perfect. i just fell its to long and not worth the hassel for cleanning the filter thanxs again do u have any pics of this thanxs again.

 

Actually, tothemax319's idea is a very good one. I just didn't know that you could do it with the Injen, because I thought for some reason that the Injen was a one-piece intake instead of a two-piece. Turns out I was wrong!

 

i would not do it like u want to, having the filter so close to the engine is no good, athe air will be too hot and u defeat some of the purpose. the other thing is u should defenatly use the vacume lines thay are there for a reason. if u want it cheap u can find one on ebay.

 

the kid: Simple fact is if you want your car to run the best, buy the what performs, do not try and make something man. For 100 bucks you really can't complain. Plus its warrantied. Good luck. My advice, get a cattman.

 

Newb here looking to get an intake. Any suggestions for a 2000 3.0L SE? I am concerned about the vacuum lines etc. between the stock filter and the throttle body. I dont know if this affects anything, but I have a California spec. emmissions control. What is normally done with all these vacuum lines? Any pics would be great, email kahnyad@email.uc.edu. Thanks!

 

the reason i dont use the vacume lines is because ive had a lot of dark stuff in my throttle body and intake, so i tryed the filters and the plug on the injen and theres no more dark stuff wich i think is oil. but not sure also it sounds pretty good with the filter on the engine and the plug on the intake after the maf so i dont get more air in the what the maf knows about and thanxs very much for ure help.

 

as far as the hoses go, i took off some of mine and replaced them with breathers.

 

Bringing up the old post.

How many of you are there that don't use vacum hoses? I think there like 3 of them, one big and two small ones. I know you can put a breather on big one, but what about small ones that go to VIAS??

Also, if this is the case, then you don't need any speacial mid-pipe, just a piece from Home Depot would work, or a piece of PVC?

I'l like to see pictures of the setup that doesn't use cavum hoses, if anyone has any.

Thanks...

 

i did the same thing, i had CAI, now its short one
check out my cardomain site for pics
huso
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2236246

 

Noob, just get a Berk or Frankencar short ram. They have a pipe branching out from the midpipe that has 3 slot tubes, they hold all of your existing vacuum hoses that go to your stock intake resonator. Don't worry, I was skeptical about this earlier too.

I made mine from a Berk midpipe, Berk couplers, ebay RTec adapter, ebay red 3" filter.

Also made my "irish" Husky blowby valve... Am I the second one to do this? I'm gonna make one for Nismo too.

/discussion.

 

FYI: you need the vaccuum hose connected after the Maf to the valve cover. This is because the MAF sensor expects the bleed off air at vacuum in the vc. If it isn't there, the car runs lean and can fry your cat. Been there, done that, $280 later got it fixed. No need to say more.

 

I know this is kind of off topic and a dead thread but I can't post my own threads yet so, can someone suggest a CAI for a 2k se that bends down behind the radiator area to the left of the battery instead of behind the battery and through the wheel well?

 

I believe the Injen intake does that.

 

What's an intake?

 

Djfres, the only intake injen makes for the maxima is a through-the-well style, or so I believe because I've researched my *** off trying to find the right one. I dunno I'm probably wrong, does anyone have a link?

 

What's a link?

 

I have seen 1 (on a 5th gen) and installed 1 (on a 5.5 gen)

It comes out of the TB, goes parallel to the battery on the left side of it, and drops down behind the radiator.

In fact, my friend is selling it (5th gen)

 

radiators are hot aren't they?

 

spose youre right.

 

this goes right behind the radiator? i thought it was kind of off-set to the side a little, I DUNNO, i think ill just get a frankencar arrg

 

It's offset a bit. Behind it, but close to the battery sorta.

PM 2kayznmaxima, he's got one for sale. maybe he has pics of it installed

 

Custom short Ram intakes are better than CAI on my 00 max, in my opinion. I had Injen CAI for 2 months, didnt like the fact that it makes a whistle type of noise when accelerating hard. Now, i just got a MAF adapter and a cone filter (similar to Apexi filter that are used on Berk intake) from PEPBoys. Really cheap to make (like $40). This set up uses the stock midpipe and everything,,just connect the MAF adapter to MAF and connect the COne filter. Also, i just left the Temp sensor out and tape it to the Positive terminal wire of the battery. This set up is Just like Jim's set up on the beginning of this thread.
Now im selling my Injen for cheap if anyone interested.