switching to regular gas?
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Originally Posted by tom5985
Put the 87 octane in and listen to your engine when it has a load on it like going up a slight hill in high gear just before the trans downshifts, if you hear it ping or knock then you need a higher octane but if the engine is quiet then continue to use the lower octane because spending money on higher octane won't do anything for your cars power or gas mileage.
It has been proven that it noticeably raises both horsepower and gas mileage.
Use whatever you want. The engine obviously runs better on premium, but if you want to use regular you will be fine. (unless you plan on towing a boat up a mountain at noon during the summer of course.) i.e. extreme loads.
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Originally Posted by BP
but will only get advertised HP with premium.
Picking up the Maxima tommorow, ill keep it clean and use some fuel injector cleaner stuff from time to time but 87 it is until these prices go down.
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Shell V Power is the only thing I usually burn, sometimes BP Supreme but with the V Power it cost me $42 to fill up but it lasted a little over 400 miles/tank, so not too bad. I tried fillin up the week before with 89 octane and only got 360 to the tank so in the long run, the expensive stuff does do our cars more good than you realize...
Originally Posted by BewstAdd1ct
aaaahahaha.... OPEC sets the price for a barrel of oil, not 'papa bush'. weve got gas cheaper than any other non-oil producing country in the world with a major population... i wasnt whining when it hit $1.00, $2.00 and i wont be when it hits $3.00.
No Opec sets the base price for the cost of oil, when we were paying $1.50 to $2.00, the actual cost of digging it up, shipping it, refining it, and disbursing it to the local gas stations was about $.35 - $.60 a gallon. 3/4's of what we pay in gas is taxes or profit for the oil companies. It takes 3-5 weeks for oil that is dug up today in Saudia Arabia to work through the system before we see it at the gas pump. Only about 40% of our oil comes from Opec, so Opec will have an influence on our price but not the ultimate decision. I agree our prices are cheaper than other major countries, but the difference is those other countries subsidize there social services system with gas taxes. Most european's gas prices are taxes, thats why a woman whose pregnant in some countries over there can take a year off from work and still get 100% paid.
you mean low supply?
No Opec sets the base price for the cost of oil, when we were paying $1.50 to $2.00, the actual cost of digging it up, shipping it, refining it, and disbursing it to the local gas stations was about $.35 - $.60 a gallon. 3/4's of what we pay in gas is taxes or profit for the oil companies. It takes 3-5 weeks for oil that is dug up today in Saudia Arabia to work through the system before we see it at the gas pump. Only about 40% of our oil comes from Opec, so Opec will have an influence on our price but not the ultimate decision. I agree our prices are cheaper than other major countries, but the difference is those other countries subsidize there social services system with gas taxes. Most european's gas prices are taxes, thats why a woman whose pregnant in some countries over there can take a year off from work and still get 100% paid.
you mean low supply?
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Originally Posted by BewstAdd1ct
you mean low supply?
i say we drill alaska. if killing a few seals will save me a few bucks, break out the clubs.
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there are ways to find cheaper gas. find out if the gas stations around you have any promotions. some will give you $.xx off if you use their credit card. for example, i filled up at sam's club yesterday. i used my sam's club card and save $.05 per gallon. not a huge deal, but it's something.
besides, sam's club is the only place i can find 93 octane. and it's ethanol.
besides, sam's club is the only place i can find 93 octane. and it's ethanol.
Originally Posted by BP
..if the manual says it's ok then a new thread is really unnecessary. all it does is contribute to more confusion. simple answer the car will run on 87 and up, but will only get advertised HP with premium.
and yes...
and yes...
Do whatever you think is best for your wallet (if you really think $5 a tank will break you) otherwise do what's best for the car. Like mentioned above in many replies: I need the car to get to/from just about everywhere, 
so I put in the gas it needs to accomplish this. Prices go up and prices go down. Since SUVs rule this country and they get terrible gas mileage, the gas prices will either go down (pressure from car makers) or people will stop buying SUVs-either way is fine with me. It's not going to last forever and I'm sure we'll all live through it whether we use 87, 89, 91 or 93 octane-with or without octane boosters.
It's kinda funny to see how many people live paycheck to paycheck. If an extra $10-15 a week is going to break you, it's time to look at financial responsibilities. This topic has been discussed over 100 times over the past couple years on the org and it's always pointed out that using 87 will decrease both HP and MPG. When you take into account the fuel mileage loss, then add up the difference, you won't be spending much more on gasoline.
Originally Posted by PTP
Thanks for the thoughtful answer.
There are so many crackheads around here who think the Max is somekinda damn Maserait they cant even think straight for 5 secs...get a freaking clue as to where you are in the food chain. Dont get me wrong I love the car...I have one, my wife does, my dad does and my brother in-law. None of have had any problems w/ it so far.
And for the record, the manual (I am looking at it right now) actually says 91 octane is recommended for maximum performance but 87 can be used. Furthermore, it even adds (on pg 10-4 in the 2000 manual) you can even use unleaded gas w/ an octane rating as low as 85 (I dont know there even make that) in high altitude areas.
The difference in using supreme ($2.70 * 15 gallons =$40.05) and regular ($2.49 * 15 gallons =$37.35) is a whopping $3.15!!!!!!!!! THankfully in my current financial state thats not a big deal so for me it doesnt really have to do w/ money but just the feel of paying so damn much fo gas.
There are so many crackheads around here who think the Max is somekinda damn Maserait they cant even think straight for 5 secs...get a freaking clue as to where you are in the food chain. Dont get me wrong I love the car...I have one, my wife does, my dad does and my brother in-law. None of have had any problems w/ it so far.
And for the record, the manual (I am looking at it right now) actually says 91 octane is recommended for maximum performance but 87 can be used. Furthermore, it even adds (on pg 10-4 in the 2000 manual) you can even use unleaded gas w/ an octane rating as low as 85 (I dont know there even make that) in high altitude areas.
The difference in using supreme ($2.70 * 15 gallons =$40.05) and regular ($2.49 * 15 gallons =$37.35) is a whopping $3.15!!!!!!!!! THankfully in my current financial state thats not a big deal so for me it doesnt really have to do w/ money but just the feel of paying so damn much fo gas.
a) you don't like the answers you got
b) it was only $3.15
Originally Posted by 2002 Maxima SE
I'm sorry but, why did you ask if:
a) you don't like the answers you got
b) it was only $3.15
a) you don't like the answers you got
b) it was only $3.15
Originally Posted by ZIPPIN
i drive about 500 miles a week. i feel the pain 
BTW I heard from a British car show that their pirces are $8+ per gallon. That's over $100 to fill the car up. And I'm sometimes scared to see the prices go over $3 per gallon.
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Originally Posted by BewstAdd1ct
aaaahahaha.... OPEC sets the price for a barrel of oil, not 'papa bush'. weve got gas cheaper than any other non-oil producing country in the world with a major population... i wasnt whining when it hit $1.00, $2.00 and i wont be when it hits $3.00.
you mean low supply?
you mean low supply?
There is no shortage of oil or gasoline in the United States. Year over year demand is flat, but refinery production is up 10%. I suspect we are at the start of a correction in oil prices and gas prices will start to decline further after Labor Day when we are in the "shoulder season", ie. a period following peak gasoline demand and prior to fuel demand for the winter home-heating season.
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Originally Posted by igzy
Yup, heard the same comment from one of the analysts that the price will drop significantly in Sep and Oct...
It's not going to last long...it never does and here's why:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...neinflationfoe
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...neinflationfoe
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Originally Posted by Bobo
OPEC does not set the price for a barrel of oil. The price is a function of supply and demand. OPEC only influences supply.
im happy to live in the US... heres some comparison... there are a few cheaper countries, i mean... iraq is like 25 cents a gallon... and venezuela is pretty low.
UK TEESIDE $5.64
HONG KONG HONG KONG $5.62
UK MILFORD HAVEN $5.56
UK READING $5.56
UK NORWICH $5.54
GERMANY FRANKFURT $5.29
DENMARK COPENHAGEN $5.08
NORWAY STAVANGER $5.07
NORWAY OSLO $4.93
ITALY ROME $4.86
TURKEY ISTANBUL $4.85
PORTUGAL LISBON $4.80
KOREA SEOUL $4.71
SWITZERLAND GENEVA $4.56
KOREA KOJE/OKPO $4.53
AUSTRIA VIENNA $4.50
CROATIA ZAGREB $4.32
JAPAN TOKYO $3.84
HONG KONG HONG KONG $5.62
UK MILFORD HAVEN $5.56
UK READING $5.56
UK NORWICH $5.54
GERMANY FRANKFURT $5.29
DENMARK COPENHAGEN $5.08
NORWAY STAVANGER $5.07
NORWAY OSLO $4.93
ITALY ROME $4.86
TURKEY ISTANBUL $4.85
PORTUGAL LISBON $4.80
KOREA SEOUL $4.71
SWITZERLAND GENEVA $4.56
KOREA KOJE/OKPO $4.53
AUSTRIA VIENNA $4.50
CROATIA ZAGREB $4.32
JAPAN TOKYO $3.84
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