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I saw an article in one of the numerous car mags I get every month and one had an article on a Turbo Kit from Jim Wolf for the Gen5 Maxima. Does anyone know anything about this?
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Originally posted by KaZ
I saw an article in one of the numerous car mags I get every month and one had an article on a Turbo Kit from Jim Wolf for the Gen5 Maxima. Does anyone know anything about this?
Thanks,
KaZ
I saw an article in one of the numerous car mags I get every month and one had an article on a Turbo Kit from Jim Wolf for the Gen5 Maxima. Does anyone know anything about this?
Thanks,
KaZ
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Heard a lot of nasty stuff about the SC
Originally posted by y2kse
It's not in production. Buy a Stillen Supercharger instead.
It's not in production. Buy a Stillen Supercharger instead.
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From what I hear...
I called Jim Wolf because I am also interested in the turbo for my max. I called them about a month and a half ago and they said that it would probably be almost a year before it gets released to the public. They said that they had to make too many adjustments to the max for the turbo to co-operate. Also I hear that the turbo was just nasty, by both looks and sound. So hopefully all will be better when they release it later.
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Re: Heard a lot of nasty stuff about the SC
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I've heard a LOT of bad stuff about the SC... especially about the autos... =)
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I've heard a LOT of bad stuff about the SC... especially about the autos... =)
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Originally posted by y2kse
It's not in production. Buy a Stillen Supercharger instead.
It's not in production. Buy a Stillen Supercharger instead.
efficiency comes to mind when i think of the things a supercharger lacks...
did i mention your engine is weighted down by a big hairdryer?
definitely buy a turbo to the original poster of this thread... there's no point getting a supercharger on a traction-limited FWD vehicle
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Originally posted by psing23
i also contacted JWT and they told me the turbo kit will cost $10,000 !!!
i also contacted JWT and they told me the turbo kit will cost $10,000 !!!
pay me $5000 and give me your car for a month and i'll have it on there
The most expensive part on the kit would be the damn manifold... it'd prolly be cheaper to do a twinturbo kit on a V6 car
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whats so inefficent about a supercharger?? im all for turbo and i like them more then superchargers but your post is wrong. There's a parastic drain cause its belt driven and all but that doesnt mean its inefficent. engine is weight down by hairdryer. Do you think a turbo is a paper weight?? Turbo's are heavy too. no point in getting a supercharger for traction limited FWD, whats the difference if they get a turbo then? anything making good amounts of power will have traction probs regardless turbo or supercharger.
even tho id pick a turbo anyday over a blower, id recommend to buy the supercharger cause there is a kit made for the Max. If you go turbo route, there's ALOT more to it then juss buying the turbo.
even tho id pick a turbo anyday over a blower, id recommend to buy the supercharger cause there is a kit made for the Max. If you go turbo route, there's ALOT more to it then juss buying the turbo.
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Originally posted by Turbo95Max
whats so inefficent about a supercharger?? im all for turbo and i like them more then superchargers but your post is wrong. There's a parastic drain cause its belt driven and all but that doesnt mean its inefficent. engine is weight down by hairdryer. Do you think a turbo is a paper weight?? Turbo's are heavy too. no point in getting a supercharger for traction limited FWD, whats the difference if they get a turbo then? anything making good amounts of power will have traction probs regardless turbo or supercharger.
even tho id pick a turbo anyday over a blower, id recommend to buy the supercharger cause there is a kit made for the Max. If you go turbo route, there's ALOT more to it then juss buying the turbo.
whats so inefficent about a supercharger?? im all for turbo and i like them more then superchargers but your post is wrong. There's a parastic drain cause its belt driven and all but that doesnt mean its inefficent. engine is weight down by hairdryer. Do you think a turbo is a paper weight?? Turbo's are heavy too. no point in getting a supercharger for traction limited FWD, whats the difference if they get a turbo then? anything making good amounts of power will have traction probs regardless turbo or supercharger.
even tho id pick a turbo anyday over a blower, id recommend to buy the supercharger cause there is a kit made for the Max. If you go turbo route, there's ALOT more to it then juss buying the turbo.
i meant drag on the engine...
a turbo is driven by the exhaust pulses... a turbo is WAY more efficient... why are they better for traction-limited cars? because you're already moving when your power hits hard.. in a supercharger its instant wheelspin...
the turbo will make MORE peak power and when you are street racing THAT is really what matters to a point...
on a 3.0L motor you can put a damn good sized turbo on those cars and spool quite well...
how much horsepower do the supercharger kits make?
if we threw out the building the bottom end equation here... if you put a good size T04 turbo on a prepared maxima and ran 18psi (on a built motor) you could make easily upwards of 450hp to the ground...
and how could you fix the traction problem? dial in your traction get a boost controller and dial in what boost you run at what rpm... can't do that with a supercharger... you're stuck with one boost setting no matter what...
i see run of the mill turbos running anywhere from 15-21psi on cars... just stock turbos... on superchargers i hardly see anything over 12psi ever... and the turbos are moving MUCH more air... more cfms to say in technospeak...
superchargers heat up a lot more and turbos do not... i'm not sure why i just remember reading it and i knew why; but i'm too damn tired to remember right now... must sleeeep
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Originally posted by Bean
i wasn't talking about physical weight
i meant drag on the engine...
a turbo is driven by the exhaust pulses... a turbo is WAY more efficient... why are they better for traction-limited cars? because you're already moving when your power hits hard.. in a supercharger its instant wheelspin...
the turbo will make MORE peak power and when you are street racing THAT is really what matters to a point...
on a 3.0L motor you can put a damn good sized turbo on those cars and spool quite well...
how much horsepower do the supercharger kits make?
if we threw out the building the bottom end equation here... if you put a good size T04 turbo on a prepared maxima and ran 18psi (on a built motor) you could make easily upwards of 450hp to the ground...
and how could you fix the traction problem? dial in your traction get a boost controller and dial in what boost you run at what rpm... can't do that with a supercharger... you're stuck with one boost setting no matter what...
i see run of the mill turbos running anywhere from 15-21psi on cars... just stock turbos... on superchargers i hardly see anything over 12psi ever... and the turbos are moving MUCH more air... more cfms to say in technospeak...
superchargers heat up a lot more and turbos do not... i'm not sure why i just remember reading it and i knew why; but i'm too damn tired to remember right now... must sleeeep
i wasn't talking about physical weight
i meant drag on the engine...
a turbo is driven by the exhaust pulses... a turbo is WAY more efficient... why are they better for traction-limited cars? because you're already moving when your power hits hard.. in a supercharger its instant wheelspin...
the turbo will make MORE peak power and when you are street racing THAT is really what matters to a point...
on a 3.0L motor you can put a damn good sized turbo on those cars and spool quite well...
how much horsepower do the supercharger kits make?
if we threw out the building the bottom end equation here... if you put a good size T04 turbo on a prepared maxima and ran 18psi (on a built motor) you could make easily upwards of 450hp to the ground...
and how could you fix the traction problem? dial in your traction get a boost controller and dial in what boost you run at what rpm... can't do that with a supercharger... you're stuck with one boost setting no matter what...
i see run of the mill turbos running anywhere from 15-21psi on cars... just stock turbos... on superchargers i hardly see anything over 12psi ever... and the turbos are moving MUCH more air... more cfms to say in technospeak...
superchargers heat up a lot more and turbos do not... i'm not sure why i just remember reading it and i knew why; but i'm too damn tired to remember right now... must sleeeep
So, it doesn't matter turbo is better than supercharger cuz no one will go that route anyway!
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So where were we?
Ah yes. We were inquiring as to whether a turbo kit is available for the Maxima or is likely to become available during our lifetimes. The answer to the first question is no and the answer to the second question is probably not. So unless you're prepared to spend a small fortune fabricating a custom turbocharger, it really doesn't matter whether a turbocharger is better than a supercharger where the Maxima is concerned, does it?
I believe some people have installed Stillen SCs in their A/T Maximas. They usually opt to upgrade their VBs at the same time. Don in Texas is running a VB upgrade special in the Group Deals forum. Check it out:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=40671
I believe some people have installed Stillen SCs in their A/T Maximas. They usually opt to upgrade their VBs at the same time. Don in Texas is running a VB upgrade special in the Group Deals forum. Check it out:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=40671
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so do you have a turbo on your Max? i do, and it burns out like crazy when boost hits. im running 8psi. so traction thing is kinda useless regardless blower or turbo. What difference would that make from a supercharger then? the supercharger kit puts out good power for 6.5psi or whatever psi its using. True you can turn up the boost easier on a turbo car then a blower but you dont juss turn up the boost, thats why so many people blow their motors on turbos. supercharger gets hotter then turbo??? AIYA! soooooo wrong. your right, turbo is driven by exhaust gases, therefore heats up WAY WAY more then a blower, a blower does get hot also but not as much as a turbo. try boosting around for awhile pop your hood right away and you'll see a bright orange glowing peice of metal. a centrifigural supercharger works alot like a turbo so you dont get full instant power off idle. psi isnt really the number your looking for when big amounts of power is added, your looking for airflow into the combustion camber. I plan to hit 400hp@14psi while other cars might go 380hp@17psi, its all about airflow in and out.
i agree with you turbo's are better then blowers and i like turbo's more the blowers, but that doesnt mean they suck. alot of super crazy fast domestics run blowers on their rides.
i agree with you turbo's are better then blowers and i like turbo's more the blowers, but that doesnt mean they suck. alot of super crazy fast domestics run blowers on their rides.
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Hmm...
I'd be interested in putting a turbo on my max. I don't care how much work it would be. But the real question is, is it more cost effective than the supercharger, with it's current inflated price tag? And if it's not, would building a custom S/C be cheaper/better than the kit?
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Re: Hmm...
Originally posted by JohnnyTHM4
I'd be interested in putting a turbo on my max. I don't care how much work it would be. But the real question is, is it more cost effective than the supercharger, with it's current inflated price tag? And if it's not, would building a custom S/C be cheaper/better than the kit?
I'd be interested in putting a turbo on my max. I don't care how much work it would be. But the real question is, is it more cost effective than the supercharger, with it's current inflated price tag? And if it's not, would building a custom S/C be cheaper/better than the kit?
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i think a non intercooled turbo setup could be very cost effective, go with the bare essitinals and simple electronics and you can be out the door under 3k.
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