Kruppa

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I can't decide which kit to get for the Helios group deal. I'm torn between 5000k and 6000k. This is what I ideally want. I want a mainly white light with a SLIGHT hint of purple/blue that still provides a great light output along the lines of Mercedes/Audi/BMW. Obviously some color looks good, but you also increase the risk of getting pulled over by police and that is obviously no good, so I'm trying to find the perfect balance of light output/slight color/not so obvious that you get attention from police that would then lay into you about clear sidemarkers and hyper white lights all over the car etc...

The 5000k is called "Crystal White"


After the bulbs warm up I have read reviews that they are brilliant white and light up the road an almost silver color. If you get real close apparently the headlight housing appears to have a slight bit of bluish tint.



The 6000k is called "Ultraviolet Purple"


I have read so many different things about this kit and is where the main problem lies. I read Helios 6000k Kit reviews that say it is mainly white with very little blue/purple. I've read that it is white with blue hint and no purple at all. I've read that it is white with purple hint and no blue at all. I have no idea what to believe and I don't know anybody who has these kits around me so I have no way to see them in real life. It's very difficult to go off of pictures online due to glare from the camera and other isses. Anybody who has either of these kits...Please chime in and let me know what you think about the color and any possible problems you had with police. Thank you.

P.S. I have 7000K halogen bulbs now and while I somewhat like the white/blue color they produce, I would definitely not want this color in an HID kit that costs this much money bc I believe that it definitely draws unwanted attention from police and could result in my having to remove them.

njmodi

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I vote for the 5000k. Where is the poll?

The useful light decreases as you get more color... (but you knew that)... plus the silver/white light will look SWEET with the color of your car... really clean and sharp.

MaximaPolak

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Get the 6000K Krupski -- The Polak has Spoken!

What brand are they?

Kruppa

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They are Helios in the group deal page...what k do you have in your fogs? did you get upgraded bulbs?

Maxima112

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6000k for that little flash from OEM color but nothing too crazy or rice like. 6000k for sure.

MaximaPolak

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6000K but they are Xtec not Helio.

p.s. I bet you still want the rims

OOmaxSE

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6000k looks nasty from far away.

i've told myself to stay away from 5000k, because i've heard they look like HALOGEN and dim. i believe the first acura TLs with xenons were 5000k, and i've seen those on the road that have colorshifted and they look disgusting, almost like a light peach looking color, don't like it.

Kruppa

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What do they look like closer cuz you said they look nice from far away?

Tek-Niq

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how can you say this? you know the oem HID off the 02 maxima like what you have are only rated around 4300k, you must think they suck then..

unless you changed them to something more higher....

03on18s

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i have 6000k's and love them. i would def recommend them.

2kVQboodah

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6000k got a little color to it. i got 12000k and color is really nice but visibility in rain and fog.... im better off driving around w/ fogs on only haha

Yaco_Max

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This is 6000k D2R and 6000k fog lights

OOmaxSE

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actually, i think they are the BEST rated K bulbs out there. brightest and whitest, 5000k phillips replacement ones (which you are supposed to buy when ONE side of your bulb dies out and due to the colorshift, they won't match, but 5000k will match better than buying a 4300k they say)

why would i think 4300k suck? i swear i said 6000k look sick from far away and 5000k look more like halogen. i never said the lower you go in color temp the more it looks like halogen.

OOmaxSE

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they have too much color i think up front. you see that most OE equipped cars on the road look bluish purple? when you're actually up close to it, it's almost pure white and looks like there's no color whatsoever. i guess it's just an illusion? but that color that OE equipped cars produced from far away = IMO similar to 6000k from far away.

up close, 6000k has purplish blue color

Battle Max

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Sorry for the stupid newbie question but for people with 5.5 gens they are just changing out the bulbs only to a differint K right or the whole thing ballast etc??

Lontar1

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just go with the 5k, but get the 02-03 housing... It looks much better than the 01 headlights. I have them and I love them.... no way going back.. unless they get stolen .....

Kruppa

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Lol...yah ok...are you going to buy the 02/02 headlights for like $600 for me..I'll stick with my headlights and this awesome deal on the HID kit

Kruppa

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Those look pretty white to me up close rather than purple/blue like I expected...altho its the 6000k HID bulbs with factory HID kit if that makes a difference.

Yaco_Max

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the 6000k D2R HID bulbs with factory HID kit if that makes a difference?

And your answer is ...........Yes It makes a big difference....

Lontar1

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Wow..man,..breathe... that was just my comment....good luck with your project.....

Kruppa

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I was asking if the fact that it's a 6000k HID bulb in a factory HID setup has to do with its color....Should I expect that same color from a 6000k hid setup like the Helios i'm looking at buying...I'm not sure if that was clear.

Kruppa

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lol...I didn't mean for it to come off like that...sorry...you know you've helped me out too many times for me to make a comment like that..yes it would be nice to have...but it'd be nice for me to have that money too...yours look great by the way

roll4life

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6000k looks the cleanest/least rice

Kruppa

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So i'm out getting some stuff for my off campus apt. and I'm kind of looking around at cars with HIDs to see about coloring and stuff and all of a sudden i'm about to merge on this road and I look to see if any cars are coming and I see a car with VERY blue lights and they aren't really flickering blue and other colors as some HIDs do, but rather very constant, and I'm thinking that if I were a cop i'd definitely give this person crap for the lights if I caught them speeding and sure enough as it comes and passes me, it's a bone stock 6th gen maxima and i couldn't believe it. I had no idea how blue they seemed from a while back , but as he got closer you could see the housing was mostly white light and the road was lit up bright white as well and not blue so i doubt i'd have trouble with 6000k bc most times police woudl just be passing by and it would appear the same as if not more white than stock HIDs on other cars

BewstAdd1ct

umm... 4100 looks cleanest/least rice.

5300K is okay, more color, and 6000K+ is for show*** mod cars...


read this:

http://www.intellexual.net/hid.html

Kruppa

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Apparently everybody has their opinions on what is rice (Mercedes is not rice and their HIDs look real blue) ..even less than what 6000k would look like at a distance which is all that really matters and it allows you to see many times better than any halogen bulb I could buy so its still a gain and it looks good at the same time and resembles that appearance of those cars which look nice...many ppl have friends with this kit who have spoken to me in the past few hours and they all said its a real good output and coloring that isn't too radical and is white with a hint of blue/purple which is what i'm looking for

Kruppa

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This is copied and pasted from your link you sent me...

"The following is probably one of the largest and most deceitful marketing ploys exploited on the internet today. So I will state, for the record: Osram-Sylvania's highest color temperature bulb is 5400K and Philips' highest color temperature bulb is 5800K (marketed at 6000K Ultinon). Nowhere on either of their corporate or consumer websites do they claim, endorse, or offer any HID bulb or kit that produces light over 6000K. I subscribe to both companies' online newsletters so in the nearly impossible event that they do make a 7000K or higher bulb, I will be one of the first ones in public to know about it and this page will be editted on that same day. But here is why Osram and Philips will never sell you a 7000, 8000 or 12000K bulb. Osram and Philips control the entire market on OEM bulbs, and they make enough money off selling OEM 4100K bulbs to ride it out indefinitely. So there is no reason whatsoever for either of them to nurture the trendy idea of high Kelvin blue/purple bulbs at the expense of their professional reputations."

so basically they are saying that they DO make 6000k bulbs and that those are still considered to be okay to them, but borderline at that. I'm not looking for OEM so that's perfect for me, this link actually helped me decide to get 6000k rather than deter me from it...I want to make my HIDs stand out a LITTLE more than OEM and according to the link that is exactly what they'll be...Thanks.

Lontar1

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Kruppa go with what you like... I would say 5k is better cause is better light output than 6 or higher, and trust me I didn't took it personal. I'm always here to help you out in whatever I can. Take care.....

Kruppa

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Wouldn't you still agree however that the 6000k HID Helios Kit is still going to produce much better light output than the halogen bulbs that I have now? That is all i'm looking for and I want to keep some of that color that I like but not a ton of it....I know the light output from 4300k is 20% better than 6000k, so there couldn't be a huge difference between 5000 and 6000 especially coming from a halogen setup. Do you agree?

BewstAdd1ct

look at how brightly white and lit up the 4100 kits are. you want white light hitting the street, not blue.

apparently you missed this part of the link

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"The proper way to achieve more blue/violet in your HIDs is to do an OEM projector HID retrofit and upgrade the projector lenses to ECE-spec. For more info on this, refer to the Retrofit Section of the tutorial."
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Kruppa

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Hey man...easy now...I just sent you a PM right before you posted this

Lontar1

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Whatever you put in there is going to have a better output than the factory halogen. Nissan put crappy stuff in our headlights , that's the only reason they put HID's factory on all 02-03. The halogen output pattern suck so much that if you park your car poiting at a wall you will see your lights going all over the place. It really depends on what you want. If I have to replace one the HID bulbs I will go no highr then 5k, I don't care about HOW it looks but how better I can look at the road when driving. Good luck again

OOmaxSE

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good choice honestly... scientifically, i would choose 5k if i were to go from halogen. but after personal reviews of 5k bulbs and how they don't look bright (i'm not sure why this is, but people have said this, including one person from the org) i would much rather go with 6k. the color is actually very nice and just at the borderline of looking FAKE and being real. enjoy.

OOmaxSE

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even 12000k would be brighter than halogen, i know this from experience. at least this is the case when put in projector headlights.

n3985

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Wait I'm confused...you are worried about too much color which may result in more cop attention. But if you are installing HIDs in a halogen headlight, there is going to be so much glare, don't you think cops will notice that more? A correct HID headlight be it reflective or projector is ideally the best choice to pair with a HID kit. Just my $.02 as I know 02-03 headlights are expensive, but installing HIDs in your headlights now def will get cops' attention.

BewstAdd1ct

this is true... even retrofit bulbs will glare without reflector modifications.

and are against DOT, AFAIK...

Kruppa

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Damn, you are always there to rain on my parade huh?

I think the glare issue will be fine considering they have sold 250+ kits on maxima.org since may and not one person has complained of cop trouble or mentioned that the glare is that much worse than OEM HIDs or had any negative comments...I think i'll just get the 6000k and stop debating this and go off of past evidence from .orgers who bought this

n3985

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I was just giving my opinion, not trying to offend you or anything. I gave my opinion, take it whichever way you want.

Kruppa

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Well... I made a thread about this so obviously I'm going to get mixed opinions. Thank you to all that have chimed in so far with your opinions but the numerous postitive reviews I have read on the group deal link and lack of hearing any problems at all with the kit make me feel like it is okay. The criticism of this kit has mostly come from people with OEM HIDs and basically everybody that doesn't have this kit. People must also realize that every brand is different. 6000k Xtec is not the same as 6000k Helios so that may also be throwing off opinions possibly based on other kits you have seen.

New Rule: Those that have the Helios kit or have seen the Helios kit in person can post their review of glare/color/output here....simply because in none of the posts above where there is criticism did the person say they have actually seen a 6000k or 5000k Helios kit in person or driven behind/at one. Thanks

Igor911

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ok here's the thing. From reading your PM, you want no glare and a white/purple hint.

You want to go with the 6000k D2R bulb. That will give you amazing light output and no more glare than what your stock nissan 4300k give out now.

D2S has no cutoff so it will look as if it gives out more light, but it doesnt. It will just give more glare to oncomming drivers.

EDIT: Sorry, just realized you have 2000 headlights. On my 2k GXE that I had 2 years ago, I went with a 8000k PIAA kit. It was bright as day but very bluish.

6000 is the color I'd still recommend. Any aftermarket retro-HID kit will give some glare just because your halogen reflector isn't made for HID.