View Poll Results: What pads are the best for a non-racer?
Hawk HPS (ferro-carbon)
56
51.85%
Hawk Ceramic
10
9.26%
Hawk HP Plus
10
9.26%
PBR / AXXIS Deluxe
6
5.56%
PBR / AXXIS Metal Master XBG
7
6.48%
PBR / AXXIS Ultimate (Kevlar - Ceramic)
9
8.33%
Other - Please specify
13
12.04%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 108. You may not vote on this poll
Which pads are best for a non-racer?
02-09-2006, 12:46 PM
#41
Originally Posted by MrMaximaGLE
Anybody have any other ideas on what i can do to help prevent this vibration business. A mechanic friend of mine told me to make sure I clean the hub really well so the rotor sits correct and make sure I don't over torque when tightening down.
02-10-2006, 06:17 AM
#42
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I just did my brakes about 1000 miles ago. I got the brembo blanks based on what .orgers said about them. slotted/drilled were waaaaay out of my budget (besides the fact their performance gain is neglible for daily drivers). I also opted not to get the Hawks for mometary reasons in addition to compaints about noise/vibration. So, copped Akebono ProActs from Tirerack (based on RAVE reviews on the forums there). These pads are super silent and dont dust very much (or the dust is very light colored). They just dont BITE very hard. They stop just fine and I feel completely safe ...they just dont have that "stop on a dime" feel. So, Id say its a good choice if you want value, decent stopping, silent operation and long life (ceramics are purported to last a long time).
02-10-2006, 07:59 AM
#43
I used Performance friction carbon metallic's on my 4th gen with my 300ZX BBK kit, minimal dusting, no noise. completely happy and almost half the price as the Hawks:
http://www.nationalfleetparts.com/
http://www.nationalfleetparts.com/
02-10-2006, 12:50 PM
#45
Originally Posted by MaxKlinger
What is the advantage of Brembo blanks vs. generic blanks? As long as they're both not drilled or slotted, what makes the big difference? Is it really worth the extra cost (which is high)?
02-10-2006, 03:36 PM
#46
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Originally Posted by unrealii
Better materials so they dont warp like the oem ones.
Its not so much that the rotors are warping, it is the OEM pads that are transfering material and causing an uneven braking surface.
02-10-2006, 10:15 PM
#47
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My Axxis/PBR Ultimates seem to be similar to the Hawk HPS. They stop well, but just as some of the Hawk users have said, they dust more than OEM pads, and they make some noise on slow stops. The Hawk HPS users seem to describe their noise as a grinding sound. With the Axxis/PBR Ultimates, the noise is more of a light squealing. Passengers sometimes tell me that I must need new brakes. I got tired of correcting them, so I just say "Yes, you're right. I'm driving on worn pads that could get us killed at any moment." Then I smile.
02-10-2006, 10:21 PM
#48
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Oh, another thing about my Axxis Ultimates...
They don't deposit material on the rotors like the OEM pads do, but they actually seem to be removing material from the rotors. I've heard that this can be a problem with really aggressive pads. Do the Hawk HPS pads do this to your rotors too?
They don't deposit material on the rotors like the OEM pads do, but they actually seem to be removing material from the rotors. I've heard that this can be a problem with really aggressive pads. Do the Hawk HPS pads do this to your rotors too?
02-12-2006, 08:07 PM
#51
Originally Posted by upstatemax
Its not so much that the rotors are warping, it is the OEM pads that are transfering material and causing an uneven braking surface.
02-13-2006, 11:03 PM
#52
Originally Posted by spiromax
My Axxis/PBR Ultimates seem to be similar to the Hawk HPS. They stop well, but just as some of the Hawk users have said, they dust more than OEM pads, and they make some noise on slow stops. The Hawk HPS users seem to describe their noise as a grinding sound. With the Axxis/PBR Ultimates, the noise is more of a light squealing. Passengers sometimes tell me that I must need new brakes. I got tired of correcting them, so I just say "Yes, you're right. I'm driving on worn pads that could get us killed at any moment." Then I smile.
02-14-2006, 06:37 AM
#53
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Originally Posted by unrealii
Oh, ok. I hate to pose a newbish question, but if I were to buy high quality pads like the hawk hps, is it possible for marterial transfer to the rotors?
I will not say,NO THEY WILL NOT!! But I dont think anyone on here has a had a problem with material transfer and Hawk HPS. I have made several highspeed stops (110-->0mph
) and I did not get one bit of shimmy or shake out of the brakes and on OEM pads if I had to make a quick stop from 60-->0mph, they would shake and shimmy for days.
02-14-2006, 09:49 PM
#56
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I put a set of Axxis Ceramics on my 00 Max along with cross drilled and slotted blanks and I couldn't have been happier with the stopping power. They had zero fade in heavy braking and what little dust they created, you could barely see on the wheels. I ran them for over 50K miles and they were still stopping the car like a champ when I sold it. I will by the Axxis ceramics again when I need new pads for my 03.
02-15-2006, 09:43 AM
#57
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Contact www.internetautomart.com he used to be on Maxworld under internetautomart....great prices on brembo blanks and will get you some great ceramics cheap!
11-13-2006, 11:36 AM
#59
Originally Posted by upstatemax
^^
I would listen to Irish, he is old now
I would listen to Irish, he is old now
i have Hawks HPS on my stock rotors now after the dealer lied and said that my OEM pads were good when i would get squealing constantly.....i also have a set of HAWK's on the side for the Slotted rotors im gonna use in a bit
but by far, i like HAWK. they grip damn well, especially at high temps
11-13-2006, 11:48 AM
#60
Originally Posted by upstatemax
Slotted rotors are only for looks. I like they way they looked, so I put them on my car.
Best peformance is going to be blanks still.
Best peformance is going to be blanks still.
so....question, did i waste 230 bucks on front powerslot slotted rotors from custommaxima.com?
or should i have just gotten brembo blanks all the way around instead of just for the rear?
11-13-2006, 08:23 PM
#61
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Originally Posted by MAXRB8
I used Performance friction carbon metallic's on my 4th gen with my 300ZX BBK kit, minimal dusting, no noise. completely happy and almost half the price as the Hawks:
http://www.nationalfleetparts.com/
http://www.nationalfleetparts.com/
Performance Friction is the lower end (available in stores) brand of Porterfield, and Hawk is also their brand. R4S is the Porterfield street pad.
I am in love with Porterfield R4S pads, and won't buy anything else. My Max currently has Brembo slotted and cross-drilled rotors with the R4S pads.
I bought Axxis Metal-Masters once as a recommendation. They destroy rotors.
12-01-2006, 01:07 PM
#63
^^well its one thing i can say about the HAWKS is that they feel great while breaking, and THEy HONESTLY BRAKE HARDER AS THE PADS AND ROTORS HEAT UP. i have HAWK HPS Pads, 2 powerslot slotted up front, and 2 brembo blanks in the back. My pads squeal a bit, but i more than likely need to re bed them.
12-05-2006, 12:05 PM
#64
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Originally Posted by Dementia
http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/
Performance Friction is the lower end (available in stores) brand of Porterfield, and Hawk is also their brand. R4S is the Porterfield street pad.
I am in love with Porterfield R4S pads, and won't buy anything else. My Max currently has Brembo slotted and cross-drilled rotors with the R4S pads.
I bought Axxis Metal-Masters once as a recommendation. They destroy rotors.
Performance Friction is the lower end (available in stores) brand of Porterfield, and Hawk is also their brand. R4S is the Porterfield street pad.
I am in love with Porterfield R4S pads, and won't buy anything else. My Max currently has Brembo slotted and cross-drilled rotors with the R4S pads.
I bought Axxis Metal-Masters once as a recommendation. They destroy rotors.
Is the 69.99 price for all four or just a front or rear set?
12-08-2006, 11:43 PM
#66
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Originally Posted by Trurida18
lol, thats foul
i have Hawks HPS on my stock rotors now after the dealer lied and said that my OEM pads were good when i would get squealing constantly.....i also have a set of HAWK's on the side for the Slotted rotors im gonna use in a bit
but by far, i like HAWK. they grip damn well, especially at high temps
i have Hawks HPS on my stock rotors now after the dealer lied and said that my OEM pads were good when i would get squealing constantly.....i also have a set of HAWK's on the side for the Slotted rotors im gonna use in a bit
but by far, i like HAWK. they grip damn well, especially at high temps
12-08-2006, 11:48 PM
#67
Originally Posted by oldmanshirt
How well do the Hawks work with the stock rotors? I'm sold on the Hawks but is there any real advantage to getting aftermarket rotors? I do only street driving and often have to make 70-0 stops on country roads.
12-09-2006, 07:26 AM
#68
Originally Posted by oldmanshirt
How well do the Hawks work with the stock rotors? I'm sold on the Hawks but is there any real advantage to getting aftermarket rotors? I do only street driving and often have to make 70-0 stops on country roads.
well considering i JUST HAD my stock rotors swapped out.brembo blanks in the back, and powerslot slotted rotors up front. THE BRAKING PROCESS FEELS ALOT SMOOTHER as opposed to those rusted to hell stock rotors.
12-09-2006, 07:31 AM
#69
Originally Posted by 01Bblack
What's this business about bedding or burnishing hawk pads on the rotor? I just purchased a set of Hawks HPS and Brembo Blanks for the front, but can I have one of the local shops install it properly
thats what i did.but now my brakes squeal when not very hot...at LOW TEMPS......i rebedded them last night.....SO IM GONNA TEST EM OUT AGAIN TODAY, AND IF THEY SQUEAL, IM TAKING MY CAR BACK TO THE GUY THAT DID THE BRAKES AND HAVE HIM CHECK THEM OUT WHILE HE DOES MY OIL CHANGE
12-23-2006, 03:25 PM
#72
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Now that I've had my new brakes for a few days, I can say this: Brembo blanks with Hawk HPS pads just flat-out STOP!
I've probably caused nearly 10 people to rear-end me in the past couple of days because stops that required a firm push with the stock brakes require only a tap with the new setup. And no more vibration! Just firm, smooth stops every time. A++
I've probably caused nearly 10 people to rear-end me in the past couple of days because stops that required a firm push with the stock brakes require only a tap with the new setup. And no more vibration! Just firm, smooth stops every time. A++
12-23-2006, 04:45 PM
#73
Originally Posted by MrMaximaGLE
Anyone have any other recs for me, do i need any new mounting hardware, (ie clips or the like)?
Keith
Keith
Follow the instructions on the box on how to "bed" the pads.
02-25-2007, 08:50 AM
#76
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hawks hps makes too much squealing and whistling sound while braking. i have a combination of brembo blanks with hawks hps. i made a very bad decision by going with hawks i would never ever use hawk pads anymore. i would rather go with akebono or oem pads i had akebono for over a years and never had any sound came from them at all. they are way quiter than hawks. hawks are terible. i am tired of this metal squeaking sounds even though i got new rotors and used that anti-squealing stuff on calipers. anyway i might remove the hawks and throw them in trash and get myself a new pair of akebono's.
02-25-2007, 09:06 AM
#77
Originally Posted by OC guy
hawks hps makes too much squealing and whistling sound while braking. i have a combination of brembo blanks with hawks hps. i made a very bad decision by going with hawks i would never ever use hawk pads anymore. i would rather go with akebono or oem pads i had akebono for over a years and never had any sound came from them at all. they are way quiter than hawks. hawks are terible. i am tired of this metal squeaking sounds even though i got new rotors and used that anti-squealing stuff on calipers. anyway i might remove the hawks and throw them in trash and get myself a new pair of akebono's.
02-25-2007, 09:59 AM
#79
i dunno how anyone can recommend hawk brake pads when they've ALWAYS been known to dust really bad and be noisy as a trade up for the excellent stopping power.
i'm using akebono brake pads and i think they are exceptional for non-performance applications.
btw, i've never used ebc green stuff for my maxima, but i did on my integra (which i did pretty hard driving on) and those brakes were EXCELLENT. stopped on a dime and dusted very little.
i'm using akebono brake pads and i think they are exceptional for non-performance applications.
btw, i've never used ebc green stuff for my maxima, but i did on my integra (which i did pretty hard driving on) and those brakes were EXCELLENT. stopped on a dime and dusted very little.
02-25-2007, 10:30 AM
#80
Originally Posted by OC guy
i did bend them on lower speed.
Originally Posted by spark plugs.
i dunno how anyone can recommend hawk brake pads when they've ALWAYS been known to dust really bad and be noisy as a trade up for the excellent stopping power.
Dust, yes. They dust like hell. But noise, no. They'll make an occasional squeak when the temperature is just right, but other than that they're incredibly civil for a pad that performs at that level.
I've had Satisfied Pro Ceramic, EBC Greenstuff, Axxis Ultimate, Hawk HPS, and then Hawk HPS again. Of those, the HPS is the second-dustiest but definitely the quietest.