Damn have yall noticed the Cattman Headers went up to $1000!! damn....I guess I wait till Summer or get the Hot Shot Headers Now...

 

 

Wow that sucks pretty bad....

 

WTF? Since when?

 

get hotshot then. exactly the same thing.

 

except my friend here has ordered hotshot a month ago... still has gotten no replies, no retured phone calls.... nothing

 

Fukcing hotshot.....

 

first time i hear that. it does suck to have that happen. that happend to me with my frankencar intake.

 

Hell yea it does.....espically when they won't call you back. Or email you back and charged your credit card

 

Where'd you find that price? SCO still lists it for $870.

 

but maybe it will be worth it because you are not paying a huge amount of money for them?

 

I found that price at custommaxima.com, What is SCO's website? I hope theres still somewhere I can get it under 900...they use to be $850 at CustomMaxima....looks like that was last year .

 

Thats an additional reason why Im Trying to stay away from HotShot.... but I might be forced to purchase them from there...

 

You might wanna try asking Brian Catts himself first

 

Like Larrio said, give Brian Catts a call since the Cattman website isn't updated regularly.

SCO: www.sportcompactonly.com (this is in the Stickies)

 

wow... headers are so expensive they dont seem worth it at this point... I have to say even at 850 I am not sure if I can justify it and I put all my money into my car.

The thing that really gets me is that if we had another car headers would be half the price for comparable quality.

 

That's the price we pay for wanting to mod a Maxima.

 

Wait where I dont see it on the sportcompact site. And im one of his dealers he never said it was going to be a grand for them?

 

I got my Hotshots from SCO for $535 shipped. Any amount above that is

Waiting a long azz time seems to be the norm for Hotshot's. I personally waited a month and 10 days

You have to call them directly. Mention that you are from maxima.org to get the discount.

 

Did you put them on yet?

I paid 700$ for my Cattman headers. At the time it was worth it, and the Hotshots were more expensive back them.

 

Got my Cattman Gen2's headers, and its worth every penny.. I love my headers and the power

 

Yeah. Hopefully it will be enough to squeeze out a 13 sec timeslip

 

headers cost a lot for some cars and a lot less for others. We are fortunate to have three companies making headers for us, however that means that we can't be as picky about pricing.

Its like the Acura guys, some go with Comptech and others choose OBX because they say it costs too much

 

Everything at CustomMaxima is OVER priced. They must think people are stupid and do not know how to shop around and price an item before they purchase it. It is crazy. You can purchase just about everything they sell cheaper from the manufacturer or other stores like SCO. Do they actually think people are going to pay them 1000.

 

not as much meant to be for your comment, but for others... Sure I could go with the hotshots and thier unproven relaiability. Sure I could skim a llittle here and there and come up with products that will last for a while, blah blah blah...
There will always be haters out there, but why do you all of you haters think that we stick by Brains side all the time? There has to be a reason, right? At any given time, Brian HIMSELF will talk to you about anything and everything going on with his bussiness on a personal level on the phone. He will talk to you about any problems you have until they are completley resolved.
Secondly, as he will tell you, there is a reason for the price. I paid a little under nine, maybe 850 for my gen II headers and they are beautiful. I haven't had the chanch to have them installed yet but once I do, I will be posting up before and afters with the only variable being the difference between his y-pipe and the gen II headers.
Not only are the performance gains worth the price ( at least 5whp across the rpm line,compared to gen 1s, from what I've heard) but the customer service aspect as well. Can anyone of you call up the head of manufacturing of hotshot or anyother company and just shoot the **** with them? No, but you can talk to cattmann at any time to resolve issues. Also, I've had cattmanns y pipe and cattback combo for almost four years now, and I've never, ever had a problem with any of the components. My sole proplem is that, after 4 years of massive abuse, my flex section on my y has finally gone. Solution: buy the new headers and fix the original problem: weak motor mounts that put undue stress of the flex section.
End of rant: all of you that hate on these products can just continue ordering mediocre parts for you car and seeing those same results. It's not always true, but in this case YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. There is no one in this industy trying harder to make QUALITY PARTS for our cars, not to mention the absolute best customer service in the industry.

Alright, I admit, alittle over the top, but I had to vent. Run dyno's hopefully will be provided in Feb, if my mechanic will ever schedule me in, that is.

 

That's how much I got mine for also. I only had to wait a week and a half (in November, I think).

 

I know you said your comment was not meant as much toward mine. But, I do not understand why you even quoted my comment. I think Cattman has excellent customer service. I cannot speak yet about the quality because I just ordered a y-pipe and have not installed it yet. I was only bashing CE because all they do is rip people off with their prices and horrible customer service. Brian is a great guy; he spent a good amount of time answering my questions. I have to admit though if he raises his price to 1000 as well in the future I might have buy hotshot because they produce the same power from what I hear.

 

Yeah, my bad man. I noticed mid paragraph that I had quoted you, I just didn't change it. the comment wasn't meant for you.

 

o.k. no problem.

 

from several memebers in 5th gen forums, hotshot and gen 1 cattman headers produce very similar gains. hs maybe a couple of hps under. maaaybe...
with cattman gen2s, there is supposed to be a 5 hp gain across the rpm range over gen 1s.

 

The big problem is that there are no Dyno runs compairing HS against Cattman. I am confident that put on the same car, HS can post the same #'s as Cattman.

I think there has been enough Cattman Vs HotShot threads... Honestly, NO ONE can say either one is "better" without Dyno proof.

My GUESS is that HS is a better deal. They are almost half the price of Cattman, post very similar Dyno runs and have held up really well. I dont know what is up with them not replying, but they are a smaller company and get backed up really easy. You have to have some patience with them, but it is worth it.

 

What are the proven reliability of the Cattmans??? they were just released....

As far as HotShots, I have not had a problem with mine and they still look great. A few members have had them for over a year and have not posted any problems.



Yes, Brian is very nice. I have dealt with him... He made sure my Cat-Back got right out to me. But I still dont think the headers are worth the price they charge.

He will also tell you that HotShot makes most of their headers INHOUSE reducing cost. Brian outsources the production, costing more.

I have talked to HotShot, I have shot the s**t with them... The guys name is John. He was great, really nice guy. He took care of my problem really quick as well, called the shop himself. If that did not fix the problem, he had a brand new secondary pipe ready to go out to me.

 

He got back to me. I guess my emails where going into his junk mail

 

HS are unreliable ? I guess I should take mine off then, I've put over 40K miles on mine so far without a single glitch.

Before you spew out a buncha BS with no proof to back it up, please research your statements NOT after you hit the POST button- but before.

I've ran HS headers for YEARS on my Sentra without a problem, HS is a great company with just as good of a customer service as Brians shop.

 

I completely agree with that. My HS headers did not have one fitment problem. I put about 6k miles on them since I got them, and they still look the same from the day I installed them.

 

cattman is no longer outsorsing the gen2 headers. they are made here, and not in new zeland. this is a part of the price increase. i beleive the other part, is somewhat better materials, and construction.

 

The new Cattman headers are fully stainless.

Hotshots are fine. They're not a bad product by any means. They're just not as good as Cattman. Whether the price difference is worth it is up to you.

 

I think what they mean by "outsource" is that Cattman the company does not make its own headers, rather, they engage an external fabricator, be it domestic or foreign, to make the headers.

Hotshot to me seems like a bigger company, since they cater to so many other different makes and models so its probably more worth it for them to have the in-house capabilities to do this.

 

Basically, this has turned into another pissing contest.... my take is that if I want proven xx hp gains and non stainless but yet reliable headers for a lower price, I'd get Hotshots. If I want stainless headers and to take a chance on possibly more (or less) hp than the Hotshots, I'd pay more for the new Cattmans.

Either way, I'm just glad that we have at least 2 different options for headers. Let the people spending the money decide what suits their needs better.

 

I know that i'm little bit offtopic but just got Cattman headers and i'm going to be crazy with the isntallation of the double O2 simulator. May somebody make a step by step installation instruction for 00-01 Cali Spec with pics? Our Nissan mechanics are little bit stupid and of course this is the only one way how to explain them.... Please,i'm on my knees! Thank you!!!
P.S These thread http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ight=simulator is invalid and that's why i'm writing it here.