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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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Front side markers as turn signals

Has anyone ever wired their front side markers to come on whenever you use your turn signals/blinkers. I was looking for a write up on this, but I am not sure if there is one. Any info would be helpful. Thanks
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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If you changed out the yellow/red for clear/white side markers, adding the turn signal will draw attention to the initial color change and may invite tickets.
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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Irish44J did it, I remember him showing em to me. Not sure if he has a write-up, but you could send him a PM about it.
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by geenowalker
If you changed out the yellow/red for clear/white side markers, adding the turn signal will draw attention to the initial color change and may invite tickets.

No. My markers ar all stock. I don't really like the clear ones so I kept them stock and I figured it's easier and cheaper to re-wire the front markers to come on with the turn signals than to go the more expensive way by ordering the mirrors with the turn signals in them. At least this mod wont cost me anything.
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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nice... i've always wanted to know how to make the front and rear side market to be da turn signal...
i m using clear front and stock red on da rear but i am using an orange bulb in the clear so i think it should be okey
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=6940
done...do the front and rear, its worth it IMO
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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ive always wondered if there was any way to make these ONLY come on when signaling. i like this a lot better, and yes, i know its illegal, but thats not really a concern.

i saw that writeup, but that only makes it flash after being on when the lights are on. the only way i could think of to do this would be to basically run a new wire from the front turn signals (which only light up when you signal) to the sides, and then cut the current connection to the side wires. i ASSume that would work, but i dont know.
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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My side markers blink whether I have the lights on or off. It's a great mod. Try this: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/227798/5
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxima112
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=6940
done...do the front and rear, its worth it IMO
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My side markers blink whether I have the lights on or off. It's a great mod. Try this: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/227798/5
Agreed. It's not hard, either. I kicked myself for not doing it sooner.
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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ive always wondered if there was any way to make these ONLY come on when signaling. i like this a lot better, and yes, i know its illegal, but thats not really a concern.

i saw that writeup, but that only makes it flash after being on when the lights are on. the only way i could think of to do this would be to basically run a new wire from the front turn signals (which only light up when you signal) to the sides, and then cut the current connection to the side wires. i ASSume that would work, but i dont know.
Yeah, you can make them come on ONLY when you signal. Just cut both wires from the sidemarker and splice the wires from the sidemarker to the turn signal harness. Now, this would only work for the '02-'03 headlights because the turn signal is independent. The only downside to this is that you'll lose the parking light output of the sidemarker and you'll also be increasing the amperage on the turn signal circuit. Being that the side marker is only 5W, it won't do any harm, though. This process won't work on the '00-'01 headlights, because the wiring is different where the turn signal circuit is used as a parking light circuit as well. That is why the sidemarker flashes at the same time with the turn signal when the lights are off, and flash intermittently (sp.?) with the turn signal when the lights are on.
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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[QUOTE=KCMC582] ive always wondered if there was any way to make these ONLY come on when signaling. i like this a lot better, and yes, i know its illegal, but thats not really a concern.

Did you check the books concercing the legality of this or it is just in your state where it's illegal to have a side turn signal. And I hope I did'nt misunderstand what you were saying. Do you mean having the lights come on just as turn signals only and not coming on at night as markers when you turn you lights on? If this is what you meant then that is definitely a problem and you are right, it's illegal.

The problem is most most if not all American cars are not made with side turn signals. Only some of the foriegn cars from Japan or Europe (whether they are built here or abroad) have side indicators/turn signals since it is mandatory in those countries to have a light at the side of the car that comes on whenever the car is either changing lanes on the highway or just simply turning. This light is just for signalling only and is not used as a marking light at night time since most of these countries do not require cars to have markers/reflectors at the side of the vehicle as they do here in the US. The placement of this light varies and is usually found in the fender like the Audi's or near towards the front of the car right around where the Maxima's front marker is located. Nowadays some cars have them located in the mirrors like the newer Mercedes and VW's for eg.

This might seem to most people as just another mod, but to me it serve a useful purpose other than just to look good. Just my 02 cents.
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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I've seen a video where someone did this mod, and in my opinion, it was too busy looking. Overkill.
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bladerunr
My side markers blink whether I have the lights on or off. It's a great mod. Try this: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/227798/5

Thanks bladerunr,

I saw your wirte-up and it was very clear. I am gonna give it a try and let you know how it turns out. I won't be doing the rears though. Just the front ones. Thanks again
Old Jan 11, 2006 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Redstone


The problem is most most if not all American cars are not made with side turn signals. Only some of the foriegn cars from Japan or Europe (whether they are built here or abroad) have side indicators/turn signals since it is mandatory in those countries to have a light at the side of the car that comes on whenever the car is either changing lanes on the highway or just simply turning. This light is just for signalling only and is not used as a marking light at night time since most of these countries do not require cars to have markers/reflectors at the side of the vehicle as they do here in the US. The placement of this light varies and is usually found in the fender like the Audi's or near towards the front of the car right around where the Maxima's front marker is located. Nowadays some cars have them located in the mirrors like the newer Mercedes and VW's for eg.
I don't think I understand what you are saying, maybe I am reading it wrong, but every American car and truck I have owned has had side marker lights that are also turn indicators, at least up front. The rears are just marker lights... can't have red blinking lights on Non emergency vehicles. The exceptions would be if the light design is such that you can see the front turn signal lamp from the side.
Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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I don't think I understand what you are saying, maybe I am reading it wrong, but every American car and truck I have owned has had side marker lights that are also turn indicators, at least up front. The rears are just marker lights... can't have red blinking lights on Non emergency vehicles. The exceptions would be if the light design is such that you can see the front turn signal lamp from the side.

Well you are right. There are a few American cars and trucks out there like some of the older chevy trucks and the ford focus that have a front side marker that is also used as a side indicator. But this is found on very few domestic cars and trucks. And anyone who decides to make the rear red marker blink is just drawing attention to themselves. I would'nt recommend that. Only the front would seem legit.

However, the light I am actually referring to is a light that comes on as a turn signal only and is never used as a marker. Look at a BMW 3, 5 or 7 series and you will see a light in the fenders. Whether it night or daytime this light only comes on when you signal. Now have you ever seen this light on a Frod or a Buick or some other American brand except for the Cadillac CTS which is sold in foreign countries under a diff name. The foreign cars are an excpetion since some do and some don't have this particular light. Manufacturers sometimes eliminate it to cut cost since it not required here.
Old Jan 11, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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I asked folks a few months back if they had ever added a side turn signal light that is imbedded in the fender just after the front wheel, i.e. BMW, Audi, VW etc. I didn't get any responses. I think it's a worth while mod, but it looks very complicated because you must drill a hole in the fender. I'm hoping someone will come up with a mod for adding some type of light to the underside of the side view mirror (I believe some folks have added LED's inside the mirror) like the full size GM trucks, I believe.
Old Jan 11, 2006 | 08:29 AM
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Well you are right. There are a few American cars and trucks out there like some of the older chevy trucks and the ford focus that have a front side marker that is also used as a side indicator. But this is found on very few domestic cars and trucks. And anyone who decides to make the rear red marker blink is just drawing attention to themselves. I would'nt recommend that. Only the front would seem legit.

However, the light I am actually referring to is a light that comes on as a turn signal only and is never used as a marker. Look at a BMW 3, 5 or 7 series and you will see a light in the fenders. Whether it night or daytime this light only comes on when you signal. Now have you ever seen this light on a Frod or a Buick or some other American brand except for the Cadillac CTS which is sold in foreign countries under a diff name. The foreign cars are an excpetion since some do and some don't have this particular light. Manufacturers sometimes eliminate it to cut cost since it not required here.
Yeah, I also think it's a law in all states that all cars driven in the United States MUST have a side markers in front or rear, whether they be lit up at night or reflectors of some sort. Using the side markers as turn signals INDEPENDENTLY (without acting as sidemarker, too), is illegal, unless you have ANOTHER side marker as well nearby (like the fender). The sidemarkers are meant for safety purposes, especially at night. The foreign cars sometimes puts its signals on fenders AS WELL as signals in the front of the car, but they also have side markers as well. The domestic cars just use both as one, like Redstone said. I hope this clears up any confusion, and KCMC582, I hope you don't plan on doing this mod for legal purposes. I was just giving advice on how this mod can be done.
Old Jan 11, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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I asked folks a few months back if they had ever added a side turn signal light that is imbedded in the fender just after the front wheel, i.e. BMW, Audi, VW etc. I didn't get any responses. I think it's a worth while mod, but it looks very complicated because you must drill a hole in the fender. I'm hoping someone will come up with a mod for adding some type of light to the underside of the side view mirror (I believe some folks have added LED's inside the mirror) like the full size GM trucks, I believe.
I did the sidemarker mod on my '95 when I had it. It's not hard at all, if you buy a marker (preferably a universal one) where you only have to drill a small hole to mount it. The wires from the marker only have to be tapped to the turn signal wiring. Very simple. It looks good on the 4th gener's fenders, but I don't think it would look good on the 5th gener's (too ricey). Yeah, I wish Nissan would think about putting signals in their side mirrors as stock. I think this would look hot. I believe they do in some of their Infiniti cars (Q45), I think.
Old Jan 11, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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I did the sidemarker mod on my '95 when I had it. It's not hard at all, if you buy a marker (preferably a universal one) where you only have to drill a small hole to mount it. The wires from the marker only have to be tapped to the turn signal wiring. Very simple. It looks good on the 4th gener's fenders, but I don't think it would look good on the 5th gener's (too ricey). Yeah, I wish Nissan would think about putting signals in their side mirrors as stock. I think this would look hot. I believe they do in some of their Infiniti cars (Q45), I think.
Mixxmax it's not too complicated if you are planning to get a universal marker to put in the fender. And of course there is dirlling involved. However if you really plan on doing this mod one word of advise is to use a sharp drill bit. Don't use an old worn one or else you will screw up your fender. I am telling you this from experience with an older car I had a few years ago. That's why I am not gonna drill any holes in my fenders. I will either do the front side marker mod or buy the mirror shells with the turn signals in them. They run for about $125 roughly but you have to have them painted to match the color of your car.
Old Jan 11, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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Mixxmax it's not too complicated if you are planning to get a universal marker to put in the fender. And of course there is dirlling involved. However if you really plan on doing this mod one word of advise is to use a sharp drill bit. Don't use an old worn one or else you will screw up your fender. I am telling you this from experience with an older car I had a few years ago. That's why I am not gonna drill any holes in my fenders. I will either do the front side marker mod or buy the mirror shells with the turn signals in them. They run for about $125 roughly but you have to have them painted to match the color of your car.
Thanks, but ummm, if you look at my previous post I had already did this mod before (on my '95), so I already know what it entails.
Old Jan 11, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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this is what i have done to my car now both front and rear side markers stay on while the headlights are on then they blink when i hit the signals
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Redstone
However, the light I am actually referring to is a light that comes on as a turn signal only and is never used as a marker. Look at a BMW 3, 5 or 7 series and you will see a light in the fenders. Whether it night or daytime this light only comes on when you signal. Now have you ever seen this light on a Frod or a Buick or some other American brand except for the Cadillac CTS which is sold in foreign countries under a diff name.
Ok if I am thinking of the right thing,( looked at a BMW pic ) then Ford Thunderbirds have cornering lights on some years, and I am pretty sure I've seen it on Buicks, other makes. I know it was some older boxy american large sedan. They light up with a white light with the turn signal is on to help iluminate the side when turning. Not too common though.
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