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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 08:40 AM
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H&R vs Eibach coparison!!! Pics inside.

I didn't plan on posting this, but kinda thought this info could be helpful and interesting for some people. I installed H&R all around on my HP blues not a while ago and here the results compare to my Eibach drop I had.
H&R does look higher then Eibach in the front and slightly in the back. (perhaps H&Rs need to settle a bit in the back???) The ride confort with H&R is noticeably better then Eibach's. I'm don't even have to worry about some bumps around here as I was in the Eibach drop. On other hand I miss the drop and the look I had with my Eibachs. And the handling with H&Rs feels the same as Eibachs.
Both of those springs are very very good. I love them both, but I think Eibach are still BEST springs for me.

Eibach drop

H&R drop


Differet side with comparison again.
Eibach drop

H&R drop.
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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Here's more comparison.

Ok here you can see the comparison with H&Rs in the rear and Eibachs in the front VS. H&Rs all around. Notice the front H&R gap vs Eibach's, the rear looks almost the same.

Eibachs in the front and H&Rs rear only.

H&Rs all sides.


Pics of different sides with H&R drop all around.

Old Jan 12, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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Nice work on the comparison! I was thinking about H&R springs in my car when I change the struts out this spring (no pun intended).
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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So you feel the H&R handles just as well as the eibach.
Hmmm... that rules the eibachs out for me, because I'm lookin for the best performance/comfort mix.. drop is not really a big thing for me. Now if I could only compare the H&R and H-tech.

How big are those rims by the way?
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sciff5
So you feel the H&R handles just as well as the eibach.
Hmmm... that rules the eibachs out for me, because I'm lookin for the best performance/comfort mix.. drop is not really a big thing for me. Now if I could only compare the H&R and H-tech.


Same here, we're shopping around for springs & struts for dad's 02SE. Not really looking for a huge drop per se, just looking to improve handling and lose the 4x4 look while preserving ride quality. If the H&R springs ride nice and still handle just as well as Eibach, H&R sounds like a winner. I too would like to hear about how the H-techs compare. Anybody?

For those of you who haven't seen Housecor's website yet:
http://www.innerbean.com/housecor/sp..._decision.html
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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shurik, what where the reasons behind changing your springs from Eibachs to H&R? Did you get the expected results?
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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The Eibachs look lower in the rear. The H$R's have a really nice stance where the rear is slightly perched higher than the front. Aggressive Looking!

I have H-Techs and I think that they are even better than the H&R's.
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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I have also been trying to decide what springs to get for my car. I've had mine for almost 2 years now, and I've been riding around on springs that somebody cut before I got them. My top two choices were H&R and H-Techs, thinking of putting them on together with Illumina's, even though the blues are more in my budget right now
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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I was totally against springs but for some reason my auto which got totalled during the summer rode sporter/stiffer especially the rear(which se have stiffer springs).My 6 speed rides so much softer and the rear isn't stiff at all. I think the previous owner might have put gle springs in the rear.....I already put HP on thinking it would stiffen the ride up but it didn't. Maybe i will just order some new oem rear se springs and give that a try.
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by boondoxmax
I was totally against springs but for some reason my auto which got totalled during the summer rode sporter/stiffer especially the rear(which se have stiffer springs).My 6 speed rides so much softer and the rear isn't stiff at all. I think the previous owner might have put gle springs in the rear.....I already put HP on thinking it would stiffen the ride up but it didn't. Maybe i will just order some new oem rear se springs and give that a try.
it could be due to the wheels you/he had on there, but HP's are pretty much a stock replacement. Put in some Illuminas on the top setting & u'll feel a friggin difference.
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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^^don't know why people say that but, HP are not the same as stock. Not even close. HP have way more dampening control then stock....I also have stock wheels.....
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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Eibach drop looks better then the H&R's.
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by boondoxmax
^^don't know why people say that but, HP are not the same as stock. Not even close. HP have way more dampening control then stock....I also have stock wheels.....
I said stock replacement, they're like the KYB GR-2's. They're slightly stiffer, but HP's are only meant to handle a up to a certain springrate. Once you surpass that, it renders them useless, leaving you an under/over dampened car.
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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I heart the look of the Eibach's F with H&R's in da rear... The drop is very clean and even on both sides. A+!
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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i have eibachs with illuminas i don't really mind the stiff ride because im young but i don't think my passengers appreciate it to much. eibachs i believe give you the best handling but are also the stiffest spring you can buy for our cars mixed with stiff struts your in for a harsh ride but i love'm
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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are your H&Rs NEW? they do need time to settle, at least couple months, to be in their right height.
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so...you gonna sell me the front H&Rs
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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wonder how soft are the H&R compare to my H-Tech? seems few people want the front only.....
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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Yes!!!

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so...you gonna sell me the front H&Rs
Irish I'm still planning on putting the H-techs in the front and selling you the front H&Rs. I would sell you the H&Rs long time ago, but just can't find the front pair of Tein H-techs right now. Still looking.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sciff5
So you feel the H&R handles just as well as the eibach.
Hmmm... that rules the eibachs out for me, because I'm lookin for the best performance/comfort mix.. drop is not really a big thing for me. Now if I could only compare the H&R and H-tech.

How big are those rims by the way?
H&Rs are the best handling + performance mix, but it needs more drop in the front for better looks. It was suppose to lower the front by more, but don't know where H&Rs got those numbers from 1.4 front, cause it realy didn't lower that much. That's what I think.

Ohhh yeah I have 18" wheels.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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The reasons why!!!

Originally Posted by DrKlop
shurik, what where the reasons behind changing your springs from Eibachs to H&R? Did you get the expected results?
Well the reasons why I chose H&Rs over Eibach, is because everybody in my family were complaining that my car is harsh, so I bought H&Rs and the ride did improve by much in confort, so I got what I wanted. I like it except of the front drop though. Want to try H-techs in front if I'll find them, should be nice.
BTW sometimes Eibach drop did kinda bother me on some bumps here sometimes, but what a great springs they are. I wish they would've been like H&Rs in ride confort, cause they are indead very good springs.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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Yes I liked it too.

Originally Posted by rbrown81
I heart the look of the Eibach's F with H&R's in da rear... The drop is very clean and even on both sides. A+!
Yes the drop in the front with Eibachs was better then H&R's. I would probably stay with that set up, but realy wanted to try how it would be with the H&R springs instead.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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Hmmmm.

Originally Posted by Ricedout
are your H&Rs NEW? they do need time to settle, at least couple months, to be in their right height.
Yes my H&Rs are like 3 weeks old. I don't know about the settling time for the H&Rs to settle more, but I think the front H&Rs need a long time to get to the drop it should realy be in.
By the way did some of you guys who did this same set up notice that the front H&R springs are a whole 1 inch shorter then the Eibachs front springs (when you compare them side by side). That is so weird, because H&Rs are higher in front then the Eibachs when they are on the car, and H&Rs are more comfortable as well. Supposedly I heard that the lower the springs are, the lower and harsher drop you'll get. I guess it realy also depends of what material the springs are realy made of, but H&Rs are still a mistery for me.
Old Jan 15, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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Anyone ever noticed that, and anyone know why???
Old Jan 22, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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I am wanting to put springs on my car. After reading this post I am still at a stand still. I had eibachs on my accord and loved them. On my accord I did not change out out shocks. I did notice a problem with the rear camber and tires were wearing out. Will i be able to install springs with out a camber kit?
Old Jan 22, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rbrown81
I heart the look of the Eibach's F with H&R's in da rear... The drop is very clean and even on both sides. A+!

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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Cleck02
I am wanting to put springs on my car. After reading this post I am still at a stand still. I had eibachs on my accord and loved them. On my accord I did not change out out shocks. I did notice a problem with the rear camber and tires were wearing out. Will i be able to install springs with out a camber kit?
Yes you can. I didn't use any kind of camber kit yet, and my tires tread is all even on all 4 wheels from the year ago when I droped my Max.
Old Jan 22, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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I have also been looking at the tein s springs. They seem to lower the car more and have a more aggressive look. Has anyone heard anything about them?
Old Jan 22, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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Ouch...

Originally Posted by Cleck02
I have also been looking at the tein s springs. They seem to lower the car more and have a more aggressive look. Has anyone heard anything about them?
Yup, those are the lowest springs you can get for the Max. Will be real bumpy from what I heard some people are complaining. People say they ruin the whole ride completely. I personally never rode on them so I don't know.
Old Jan 22, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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Well I do not want bumpy. Which do you prefer? The look eibach has is good.
Old Jan 22, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cleck02
Well I do not want bumpy. Which do you prefer? The look eibach has is good.
If your lookin for a good lookin drop and want comfort go for H-techs..

I just wish we knew what the performance was like on the H-techs. If the performance was equivelent to the H&R or Eibach than I see no reason not to get H-Techs
Old Jan 22, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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has anyone heard of problems from only putting HR springs in front;stock in back? i heard some springs blow shocks, HR one of those? Just want to drop the 4x4 front down, can't stand it any longer!!!but at same time i don't want to cause problems;put them on and forget about horror that my car was once a ...........4x4
Old Jan 22, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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Eibach will sit or at least look lower in the rear. I had them and didn't really like the stance that it gave so I changed them out to the H-Techs. The ride and stance is now where I like it.
Old Jan 23, 2006 | 07:00 AM
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Well...

Originally Posted by Edward Lee
Eibach will sit or at least look lower in the rear. I had them and didn't really like the stance that it gave so I changed them out to the H-Techs. The ride and stance is now where I like it.
Well It will, but that's how our cars are. The Eibach drop is very nice. My car didn't sag or anything like that after riding on it a year.
Here's a good Eibach drop I had.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a22...5/DSC04555.jpg
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