ok, so i went to the track today and ran a few times. since i ran everywhere between 14.3 and 14.7, and since the trans slipped even when i was going drop resistor style, I came to the conclusion that my auto trans is completely crapped out. when i take it to the dealer (the parents will be paying) im going to have them swap it to a 6spd. hopefully they will. im looking for a list of everything i will need so that when they tell me it cant be done i can show him this list and tell they guy to make it happen. also, if anybody works at a dealership or something like that, please tell me about how much in parts and labor it will be so that i know what to expect.

heres a list of parts ill put together:
1)manual ECU
2)6spd transmission
3)non-electric motor mounts
4)shifter cables
5)shifter mount and ****
6)new dash without the PRND21 (not required, but an option)
7)whatever kind of fluid that will be going into the trans
8)clutch pressure plate etc.
9)clutch pedal and hydraulic lines
10)clutch master and slave cylinders

 

Clutch hardware.

 

u need hydraulic clautch

 

wow i wish my parents were that giving! lol...the 6-speed is sweet, but it will cost you (or your parents, rather) a pretty penny...and yes, as mentioned above, you forgot to list the clutch hardware....

 

they arent that giving, theyll just be convinced that its the same price because the auto tranny is really expensive to swap where as a manual is a lot cheaper. i dont know if thats true, but thats what will be said.

 

i'm guessing you're out of your powertrain warranty? I bet your parents are going to be kicking themselves now for not getting an extended warranty!

 

Do you even have any clue how much a 6MT tranny costs ? Try to price one out online and you will see that it will cost ALOT of $$$.

Your best bet would be to talk to someone like turbo95max as hes from Cali. PM A33 DEK and see what he will tell ya. Personally I would turn the car back to stock and try to trade it in at a dealership for a 6spd.

I can tell you that NO dealership is going to want to convert your car to a manual. They will tell you its impossible/look at you like your stupid.

6spd trannies are not all that hard to find, I sold one on Ebay last year for 500 bux in top shape vs 3500 bux for a new one.

 

i could always let my rents know that i will do it myself vs about the same price at a dealership. still lookin for any more parts needed

 

u'll be the first one to do it on a 5.5 gen..
i dont think it has been done b4 on a 5.5 gen..
good luck bro, i'll try to look for some parts, if i find them i'll post them on here.
peace

 

thanks, any help is much appreciated, if i really am the first to do it ill be sure to take lots of pictures and do a write-up.

 

I completely agree with what BlackbirdVQ said.

I was going to do a 6-speed swap. I called many places, including Dave B, and nobody had all the parts for the conversion. The transmission would cost around $600 (which isn't bad). What elevates the price is the other components needed. The other stuff,such as an used manual ecu, shift linkage, etc., was impossible to locate. Buying the shift linkage new from Dave B was over $200 and the shifter was also over $200. If you can locate a wrecked 6-speed with all the parts on it, then go for it. If not, then just replace the transmission with another auto.

EDIT: Here is a thread that might help you in removing the stock transmission.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=457144

 

ok, i have a question, will all the sensors for the auto hook directly to the sensors for the 6spd, or do i need a whole new harness?

 

take the parts off your car and get a 6spd. I did that with my gold auto, just wait for a 6spd.

 

Some plugs from the automatic transmission will not be used in the new transmission. You have to do some splicing to get the reverse lights to work. For safety reasons, you also want the option of depressing the clutch pedal in order to start the car, to work.

If I were you, I would get a complete uncut manual harness to bypass any troubles.

 

I really want to do this in the Summer.. Tilley will do labor for 600, i looked various places trannys are $600, the only parts iam having trouble finding are Tranny mounts/shifter cables Finding a parts car will be hard tho..

 

go get a job! dont rip ur parents off. grow up

 

Although I agree with you, that's really up to his parents to decide don't you think?

 

hey mike you ever get the transmission to work?

but yeah, you should talk to turbo95max, he's your best bet. NO DEALERSHIP IS GOING TO DO THE SWAP FOR YOU and if they do they'll charge you an arm and a leg.


turbo95max hasn't done a 6spd swap, but if you PM him he'll probably be willing to give it a try, but i heard doing this swap wasn't worth it, because of time and money...

 

maybe his parents has the money and they're very well off .. seems like your mad because you don't have the benefit of having parents to pay for your necessities. He's only 17 give him a break.

 

A33 VQ30DEK ,The 6 speed Swap is not all that Difficult, I have Acquired all Parts except for the Shifter cables/Box/ tranny mount. This swap can be done for 2k easilly if you have Acess to a Parts car, Iam looking into doing this come Summer but need a Parts car.

 

yah 2k is about how much i spent for my swap. We'll worth the money

 

I got my 2002 SE with 85k for 9k, it has a stillen kit/htechs/system/exhaust/Leather, well worth doing the swap..

 

I've done a 6spd swap I do lots of tranny swaps in my neck of the woods.

A33- yeah we got the tranny, I need to get some time and space set aside to take it apart and quickly rebuild it. I haven't actually seen the tranny yet as its sitting at his garage waiting for the shifter linkage as its on back order for some reason (too many .orgers doing swaps ?) but we should have the car converted shortly without any problems.

Sell the car- get a 6spd from the get go or be prepared for some MAJOR headaches and LOTS of downtime.

I give props to Tilley if hes going to do a 6spd swap into a 02+ car for 600 dollars. IHMO I don't think he realizes how much f-ing around there is to be done to get this runing properly, but hey you live and learn !

 

Well, what kind of problems can you run into?

 

not everybody in the world can just sell their car and buy a new one, not that easy. in my case, the swap would be allowed as my trans is absolutely crapped out. however, i cant just trade in my car and get a different one, doesnt work that way for me.

BTW-lots of headaches and downtime > lots of regretting not doing the swap and just getting another auto.

 

1st of all, he will need a consult to program your new 6spd ECU (if you can find one) to run with the imobilizer unit. He doesn't have a Consult to my knowledge.
2nd of all, wire harness is different and needs to be repleaced with a correct harness to make it work.
3rd of all, new engine mount has to be welded onto the chassis to make the tranny mount bolt up to the trans
4th of all, firewall hole needs to be enlarged for the shift selector linkage to fit through it- the hole is in a REALLY bad to reach spot that requires an angle grinder to enlarge
5th of all, ABS modulator gets in the way of the shifter linkages on the one I worked on- it needs to be relocated or you won't have any brakes

There is more stuff that I won't get into like gauges, center console etc that needs to be repleaced- and proper wireing of the ASC.

Anyways.... good luck, you guys will needed

Years down the road you will regret spending 3K dollars on a car worth 7-8K dollars on a trade in. Plus if your car gets damaged in a accident- good luck getting that "trans swap $$$" back from the insurance company.

Like I said, sell the car and get a 6spd. Pretty stupid to spend 3-4K dollars on a tranny swap, as I doubt any of you will end up owning the car for the next 10 years like I anticipate on doing.

 

seeing as i will be in college for the next 8 or so of the next 10 years, i wont be surprised if i just so happen to still have it in 10 yrs.

STILL LOOKING FOR MORE PARTS THAT MAY BE NEEDED TO ADD TO THE LIST. also, anbody in CA that is willing to do this swap for some $$ pm me or something.

 

So let me ask you this, when you did the Swap how much labor you charge?

 

DUDE Go trade the **** in, your gonna end up spending like 5 to 6 gs on this. Go trade it in for a 6spd unless you are rich then go for it

 

500 as I didn't know what I was getting into... I won't do the swap ever again for that kinda $$$. I reather stick to the eassy 3-5th gen swaps that are eassy few hour jobs.

 

the 3rd-5th gen one are the easiest. Maybe a 12 at most.

 

i've had done 5th gen 6spd swap. like 2 years ago.

 

you are a little late. i already moved out.

 

Please get the facts straight. half og the stuff that you listed is wrong and I personally talked about the mount.

3) not true. the engine mount stays in place. Nothing o nthe engine side has to be touched. The tranny mount is different but that is a simple task which i have talked about alot of times.
4)not true either. linkages fit without any problems.
5)that can be solved with the bracket that holds the abs. just get one from a 6 spd car and it bolts into the same place.

Most of the stuff that people posted in this thread is wrong and useless information. I am not saying all of it but most of it.

 

Good luck with the swap, although if you can talk your parents into it, it would be easier to sell your car and buy a 6 speed with the money you get. What are the reliability issues (if any) with a swap? If you're going to keep it for 10 years, see if you can dig up people who did the swap on a 4th gen and see how their cars are running now.

 

you quoted what i said but obviously didnt read it. chances are that it will not be ok to just trade in and switch cars. plus, the body work done on my car will cost a big bit of money to do on another car, if i could get 2k BACK from trading in my auto and buying a 6spd i could probly do it, but otherwise not.

 

so i guess that either all of the parts are listed or nobody knows of anymore. sounds good

 

no its just you will get a better answer by asking people who have done the swap becasue here you will just get a bunch of opinions

 

i guess ill take this to the all motor also.

will i need a new ECU or TCM?

 

You will need a manual ECU. The TCM is used to control the automatic transmission, so it won't be used.