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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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What are the Pros and cons of getting a 5th gen with a VQ motor over one with a VG motor? I know there is the 40-60hp difference, but is that all that you get as an advantage? both being manuals
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Nissan Love
What are the Pros and cons of getting a 5th gen with a VQ motor over one with a VG motor? I know there is the 40-60hp difference, but is that all that you get as an advantage? both being manuals
I'm going to leave it as, 5th gens come with a VQ30 or a VQ35. I hope you mean the difference between the 3.0 and the 3.5, Otherwise your in for a load of ****.
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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i always thought the Maximas had the VG prior to 02. I always was under the assumption it was the same motor as in the Z32 just transversed for FWD
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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nope.

read the faqs/stickies for more on the motors used. basically the 02-03 have about 30 extra horses and some odd digits of torque. really makes a difference. it's not 40-60

~222 vs 255.
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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... Maximas have had the VQ since the 1995 model year, which was introduced in 1994.
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilRoadsVictim
nope.

read the faqs/stickies for more on the motors used. basically the 02-03 have about 30 extra horses and some odd digits of torque. really makes a difference. it's not 40-60

~222 vs 255.
vq35 hp is more like 240, they gave false numbers.
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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I have 287.5 CHP in mine
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vq35 hp is more like 240, they gave false numbers
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I have 287.5 CHP in mine
Well, he is right. The actual number is closer to 245HP/265TQ.
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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Yes... but the auto VQ30DE vs the auto DEK we see a larger difference in hp... (32) and the low non-adverstised but proven calculated crank#'s from the VQ35 vs the DEK is only 18 hp.. but stock for stock the auto 3.5L will assault the auto DEK.

In this particular case, torque pwns.
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Nissan Love
What are the Pros and cons of getting a 5th gen with a VQ motor over one with a VG motor? I know there is the 40-60hp difference, but is that all that you get as an advantage? both being manuals
5th gen Maximas with VQ motors have one distinct advantage over 5th gens that came with VG motors.

They exist.
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 06:45 AM
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according to this:
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/featu...nes/home.shtml

the vg hasnt been used in the max for a decade (the ve is a derivative of the vg).
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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ok, now that we have the engine code **** straight, how about a real answer. what are the pros vs cons of both versions of the 5th gen max's. I might be getting one soon. so i want to know

is the power difference really worth the extra price

are there any other differences between the two versions (good or bad)
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Do your own research this has been posted too many times....
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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i would love to, but seems i dont have sufficient privaledges to do a search on this site. so i have to ask...reguardless how often it may have been discussed
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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http://www.forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=368622

beautiful eh?
another difference is 6spd vs 5spd.
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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Just donate, and you can search all you want.
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i dont have sufficient privaledges to do a search
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 10:39 PM
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im not on this site enough for me to donate.
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 11:27 PM
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In stock form, the 2002/2003 models are faster than the 2000/2001 models, but I think that the fastest Maximas are still modded VQ30 models right now. The VQ35 models will catch up when we get more aftermarket development, which looks like it will be here soon.

Personally, I'd still go with a 2002/2003 model if I had to make the decision again. As Hoooper mentioned above, another difference if you want a manual is that the VQ35 5th gens came with a 6spd manual while the VQ30 5th gens came with a 5spd manual.
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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SOME of the 3.5 engines have an oil consumption problem. my suggestion is to buy a 5 gen, and save thousands!!! i bought a 2k and for less than a thousand changed to hids, 2k3 front bumper and tails. imo that is the only place where the 3.5 accels over the 3.0, in the cosmetics. i don't care about the nominal diff in horse power as that extra power is not worth the extra 5-7000 dollars to me. I know many will harshly dissagree but in my mind i do have a 2k3 but for thousands less!!!! And with all the money i saved on buying the 2k i had enough left over to put entire stillen kit and rims along with many other mods and i'm still way under just the standard price of a base 2k3.
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k0to2k3
SOME of the 3.5 engines have an oil consumption problem. my suggestion is to buy a 5 gen, and save thousands!!! i bought a 2k and for less than a thousand changed to hids, 2k3 front bumper and tails. imo that is the only place where the 3.5 accels over the 3.0, in the cosmetics. i don't care about the nominal diff in horse power as that extra power is not worth the extra 5-7000 dollars to me. I know many will harshly dissagree but in my mind i do have a 2k3 but for thousands less!!!! And with all the money i saved on buying the 2k i had enough left over to put entire stillen kit and rims along with many other mods and i'm still way under just the standard price of a base 2k3.

Co-sign.

I agree with every you said.
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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i was searching online last night looking at 5th gens, and it does seem that i can save from 5-10K with relatively close mileage by getting one with a 3.0. i noticed subtle differences in the body styling between 5th and 5.5 gens. the 5.5 does look better but i think i maybe going the 3.0 route unless i somehow find a 5.5 with really low miles to make spending the extra cash worth it
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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Correct me if I am wrong, but VQ30's have the advantage of having the option to turbo or supercharge and thats about it. There are headers, exhaust systems, intakes, and a various assortment of exhaust components available for both engine types. Both cars have notorious MAF problems, which can be replaced for 89 bucks (for the VQ35 you have change one sensor to make a 2k MAF work), some VQ35 and I mean a small number of them have oil issues, while some VQ30 have coil problems. As VQ35's become more popular so will the aftermarket scene. Plus you have the 6-speed option.

If I were you I would test drive both and see for yourself if the extra power in the VQ35 is worth it to you. Look at the interior as well since you will be spending the most time there. When I test drove both engine types I felt that it was worth the extra money. Just my $.02.
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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for someone who "loves nissan" you sure dont know a dam thing about them.
and since you are to cheap to donate to support the site www.google.com
now do your own research instead of expecting us to spoonfeed you
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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wow i guess he told you..................
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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for someone who "loves nissan" you sure dont know a dam thing about them.
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now do your own research instead of expecting us to spoonfeed you
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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Correct me if I am wrong, but VQ30's have the advantage of having the option to turbo or supercharge and thats about it.
anyways yeah you can supercharge the VQ35's and in my mind thats better than a turbo. for VQ35's
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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You can? What company makes the SC? I guess you learn something new everyday. Well me being a Noob I hope that's excusable.
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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anyways yeah you can supercharge the VQ35's and in my mind thats better than a turbo. for VQ35's
Plz show me a link as to where someone has SC a 3.5.
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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pro, the vq will kick your a'ss
con, the vg won't be able to kick my a'ss



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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k2kev
pro, the vq will kick your a'ss
con, the vg won't be able to kick my a'ss



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Originally Posted by maximaownsyou
anyways yeah you can supercharge the VQ35's and in my mind thats better than a turbo. for VQ35's

There is currently NO ONE who makes an S/C for the VQ35.
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by alpinestars
There is currently NO ONE who makes an S/C for the VQ35.
actually yes there is, but it's tre expensivea (I think that's french for f'ucking expensive)
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 10:28 PM
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really, you sure? I searched High and low for one and never found one. Well, I take that back I saw a Supercharged G35c once.
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really, you sure? I searched High and low for one and never found one. Well, I take that back I saw a Supercharged G35c once.
No one that i kno of has a sc for the 5.5 gen
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really, you sure? I searched High and low for one and never found one. Well, I take that back I saw a Supercharged G35c once.
it was 2-3 years ago, someone made a kit that had a shaft running across the front of the engine.

not sure who, but it's out there and it's expensive, but it's out there (am I repeating myself?? )
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mass_Media
No one that i kno of has a sc for the 5.5 gen
f--- off, newb, someone made one






Old Feb 23, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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No link no care.
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 10:35 PM
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No link no care.
lick my taint

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=456985
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k2kev


For 1 thats a turbo. Not an sc. 2nd thats swapped into a 4th gen using a 3.0 ecu. Thanks try again.

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