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Old 03-03-2006, 01:26 PM
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2k2-3 hids with different k rateings post pics here

before any one gets mad because this topic has been discused before let me state my intentions. i Am replacing existing hids in headlights and getting a new hid kit for fogs from helios from the group buy section. stock 4300k hids are probably the most plain stock hid out there. Almost every other stock hid looks better imo. i've looked at a couple of pics i could find but they are so limited.

Looking at a pic on computer screen to decide a k rateing is proposterous. You can't get a real feel for what they look like or the real color they are emitting.

For that reason please post pics and compare them to stock vechicles out there. For example i can recognize the 2k-2k1 tl cl accuras from miles away as they are so blue. And the 2k4 maxes as well as they are also a nice blue.
anyone know what the k rateings are on those?

i like them but would rather have a little more of a purple hue. and the output is not that big of an issue to me as i'll always have both fogs and headlights on. thanks in advace to anyone that may be able to help. pat
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2k4 maximas use the same K rating as 02/03. Only reason they look blue is because they are a projector lense.
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igor911 thank you for that info. i pm'd couple of 2k4 guys with no responce....wow what a huge difference in the color just from the projector. do you have something diff? yours in the pic look like they have a purple hue or is it just from pic distortion?
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wow am i the only one thinking about doing this mod? you guys must notice how our hids are very plain compared to other hids...no?
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a day late and a dollar short. .org members have been upgrading their D2R bulbs from the stock 4200k to 5000-6000k.
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the reason those 00-01 acura tl's are so blue/purple is because their bulbs are colorshifted a lot and problly the design of their reflector. they use the same bulbs as our cars (4100K d2r).
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Originally Posted by NisMoN00B
a day late and a dollar short. .org members have been upgrading their D2R bulbs from the stock 4200k to 5000-6000k.
I thought the 5000 and 6000 were less bright than the 4200???
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Originally Posted by lowincash
the reason those 00-01 acura tl's are so blue/purple is because their bulbs are colorshifted a lot and problly the design of their reflector. they use the same bulbs as our cars (4100K d2r).
wow i can't believe they all use the same bulb!!! i learned in another forum that the 2k5 maxes use the same k as well but along with different reflectors the smaller the housing, the bluer the look. makes total sence as the 2k5 have the smaller projector housing. Anyway i'm getting from another forum that 7k up top and 6k on bottom may be a better look than the 6k for both. anyone have experience on this? Done this, or have pics? thanks again as although i'm getting more info from other places, you guys know best since you actually have same vechicle as me.
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95
I thought the 5000 and 6000 were less bright than the 4200???
not as concerned with light output as i am with looks. i know the 6k and 7k are less output than 43k stock but from what i've read as long as you don't go above 8k they are manageable, any truth to that? also won't the combo of hid heads with the hid fogs kind of compensate? i personally don't know as i have had no first hand experience with diff k rateings so any that have had, please post here....
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hidplanet.com has great info on hid stuff...i've been addicted to hid's since when i had my accord and i've went thru about 6 projector retrofits ranging from e46, ece valeos, tsx (twice), s2k, and e55 bixenons. ya the 2k4+ maximas uses projectors which gives off a nice blue color at different angles. that's one main reason i was so addicted to projector retrofits...the cutoff and color is so nice

oh yea i've always stayed with 4100k hids cuz they provide most output...and yea just don't go over 6000k (which gives off slight purple color) if you still want some output.
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I upgraded my capsules to 6500k and changed from D2R to D2S
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Originally Posted by Igor911
I upgraded my capsules to 6500k and changed from D2R to D2S
Can you use D2S bulbs in our assemblies? What are the advantages and disadvantages if you don't mind me asking...Also I have 7K D2R's and I have to say they have the perfect amount of purple and blue in them. I got them off of the Helios GB maximabest has and am very satisfied, I say go for it!!
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Originally Posted by nadeemp8
Can you use D2S bulbs in our assemblies?
D2S bulbs are used for projector-based HID system while D2Rs are used with reflector-based HID system. Igor911 most likely did a projector retrofit.
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Originally Posted by lowincash
hidplanet.com has great info on hid stuff...i've been addicted to hid's since when i had my accord and i've went thru about 6 projector retrofits ranging from e46, ece valeos, tsx (twice), s2k, and e55 bixenons. ya the 2k4+ maximas uses projectors which gives off a nice blue color at different angles. that's one main reason i was so addicted to projector retrofits...the cutoff and color is so nice

oh yea i've always stayed with 4100k hids cuz they provide most output...and yea just don't go over 6000k (which gives off slight purple color) if you still want some output.
I am very interested in doing some projector retrofits. Do you have any write ups lowincash or which ones did you follow. Also what projectors after all those do you recommend. I have heard both tsx and s2000 have good projection/cutoff but I want to get you input.
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Originally Posted by ctrent86
I am very interested in doing some projector retrofits. Do you have any write ups lowincash or which ones did you follow. Also what projectors after all those do you recommend. I have heard both tsx and s2000 have good projection/cutoff but I want to get you input.

i personally like the tsx better than the s2000. the s2k are too sharp which is kinda cool (crazy flicker effect with a lot of colors!) but at times it's annoying because it's hard to see street signs at night. with the tsx the cutoff is still almost as sharp as the s2k but it has a slight flare of color and light which helps light up signs more. also i like the tsx because they look whiter than the s2k. as for write-up i didn't do any of the retrofits myself my friend from www.customlightz.com did it for me. i'm planning on having him do my retrofit on the maxima in the future when i have some spare parts and money hah
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8000k D2r bulbs from MotoringMax on ebay....$80 shipped....looks real nice and I only had this setup for one week...some guy at a gas station already gave me compliments on my bulbs....be warned though, the light output is alot less than OEM 4300k....I can easily tell the difference when I drive...the 4300k allows you to see more and further...these 8000k are sweet lookin, but you have to compromise light output....6000k would be the way to go if you want good light output and a hot look
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hey steven88 what kind of fog lights do you have?
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hey steven88 what kind of fog lights do you have?
Luminics.................................
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Originally Posted by NisMoN00B
D2S bulbs are used for projector-based HID system while D2Rs are used with reflector-based HID system. Igor911 most likely did a projector retrofit.

Yeah, I knew that...I guess I should've asked if Igor has projectors or if he's using the regulare reflector assemblies...
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Originally Posted by nadeemp8
Yeah, I knew that...I guess I should've asked if Igor has projectors or if he's using the regulare reflector assemblies...
no I don't have projectors. I am using D2S though, I modified the capsul to fit
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Originally Posted by Igor911
no I don't have projectors. I am using D2S though, I modified the capsul to fit
What are the benefits of the D2S bulb?
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Thanks for the info lowincash. That company looks like they do some legit work. Can you give us all some ballpark figures for pricing?
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I'm using a set of 8000K I bought off of ebay and they are amazing. They project extremely far. In fact almost everyone flashes their highbeams at me. The colour is amazing because ALL highway signs light up like they are neon. And if you have white police cruisers in your area they light up like christmas trees from miles away. Also because they are so bright I had to put 100W in my highbeams to notice a negligeable difference with them on.
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Originally Posted by knight_yyz
I'm using a set of 8000K I bought off of ebay and they are amazing. They project extremely far. In fact almost everyone flashes their highbeams at me. The colour is amazing because ALL highway signs light up like they are neon. And if you have white police cruisers in your area they light up like christmas trees from miles away. Also because they are so bright I had to put 100W in my highbeams to notice a negligeable difference with them on.
You do know that 8,000K HIDs are less bright in terms of light output (lumens) than the factory 4,300K bulbs right?
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how weird...cuz i immediately noticed a difference when i swapped in 8k bulbs....the light output was alot less and I couldn't see as far as my 4300k OEMs...
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So, higher the number the less light output?
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Originally Posted by bpe383
So, higher the number the less light output?
Correct, higher the kelvin rating, more color, but less light output.
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i realize that the 8000k are supposed to output less lumens than stock. But believe me, you wouldn' think so when I am on a sideroad with no streetlights. I don't think any cars coming towards me fail to flash their highbeams at me. With my 8000K HID's, when I put on my stock highbeams I did not see any difference in output. I didn't even know the highbeams were on. So I installed 100W 6000K highbeams and there is a slightly noticeable higher output. Maybe they don't project as far as the stock, BUT they are a heck of a lot better than halogens.
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Originally Posted by knight_yyz
I'm using a set of 8000K I bought off of ebay and they are amazing. They project extremely far. In fact almost everyone flashes their highbeams at me. The colour is amazing because ALL highway signs light up like they are neon. And if you have white police cruisers in your area they light up like christmas trees from miles away. Also because they are so bright I had to put 100W in my highbeams to notice a negligeable difference with them on.
they're not really bright..it's just more glare that's why you're getting high beamed at lol it's problly no where as bright as stock...the "amazing" color problly just tricking you to think it's brighter haha
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probably going to go with 6k h3 mini hid kit from helios maximabest from group buys and 7k headlights......thanks to all that helped
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Originally Posted by Igor911
no I don't have projectors. I am using D2S though, I modified the capsul to fit
And you were hoping to gain absolutely what by doing this??
D2S and D2R bulbs put out the same amount of light. Only thing is that D2R are for a HID reflector housing and have a shield to prevent glare? If you gain something, please let us know.
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12000k output isnt that bad but might go down few k in the future
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damn that 12k is FREAKIN BLUE!
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maybe d2s bulbs will give bit more light since it doesn't have that shield wrapped around the bulb...i remember on another forum there was a comparison between the two and one was slightly brighter but not too much difference.
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I've got D2S bulbs too. I feel like paint on a D2R would heat the bulb unevenly and lower bulb life.

I made my own cutoff shield though, so glare is not a problem.

BTW, I've got the Philips Ultinons (6000k), and I love the color and output.
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Where the pics at??? Steven and queenambeach are the only ones to post pics. Well the info is still good as pics, but you know
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Hey Steve!!!

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8000k D2r bulbs from MotoringMax on ebay....$80 shipped....looks real nice and I only had this setup for one week...some guy at a gas station already gave me compliments on my bulbs....be warned though, the light output is alot less than OEM 4300k....I can easily tell the difference when I drive...the 4300k allows you to see more and further...these 8000k are sweet lookin, but you have to compromise light output....6000k would be the way to go if you want good light output and a hot look
Steve so how do you like your 8k bulbs? Better then stock or not? BTW $80 is a pretty good price for those. So I can get those at motoringmax on ebay, right?
Ohh yeah I love the way those look. Nice.
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Originally Posted by lowincash
they're not really bright..it's just more glare that's why you're getting high beamed at lol it's problly no where as bright as stock...the "amazing" color problly just tricking you to think it's brighter haha

Ya you're right dude. Being able to see reflective signs only a mile away with 8000K bulbs really sucks. Ok, I'll admit my car was 3 years old when I replaced the stock bulbs and maybe they were brighter than the 8000K. Compared to the stock bulbs which project how far? Geeze how far down the road does everyone need to see? You guys make it sound like 8000K projects 200 feet down the road then everything turns to black. 5000k produce 3200 lumens, 8000k produce about 2600 lumens, and a normal halogen bulb produces about 900 lumens. Not sure how much farther down the road you can see with the 5000K but who really needs it?
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Originally Posted by shurik
Steve so how do you like your 8k bulbs? Better then stock or not? BTW $80 is a pretty good price for those. So I can get those at motoringmax on ebay, right?
Ohh yeah I love the way those look. Nice.
I love the look....real sexy and make your car stand out....but definitely stick with 6000k or below if you want your light output....cuz 8000k is a BIG difference compared to 4300k....IMO, 5-6k is the best compromise....I actually never seen them before, but I'm just guessing since everybody talks about them...
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And you were hoping to gain absolutely what by doing this??
D2S and D2R bulbs put out the same amount of light. Only thing is that D2R are for a HID reflector housing and have a shield to prevent glare? If you gain something, please let us know.
D2S actually is brighter by a slight bit, if I can recall it's roughly 600 more lumens. But for sure the cutoff line won't nearly exist like stocks and the glare will increase.
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