n3985

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So today I took off my generic 7 wire eBay grounding kit and made one myself. I used 8 gauge Stinger wires, 30ft for $20 on eBay, and nickel ring terminals. With eveything tightened down, my car now shifts smoother, and the engine runs smoother and is more responsive. Homemade grounding kit with high quality wires rather than mass produced generic grounding kit FTW!

BRINKLEY

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I would think wire is wire... was the ebay kit the same gauge wire as the Stinger wire? I've been thinking about a grounding kit to help with my dimming lights, just haven't decided which to get yet.

n3985

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eBay wire is 6 gauge, but it's insulation material from just looking at it is inferior. And while the wires may not be that different, and what I said above is merely placebo, I know that I am more satisfied with the new kit for $30 than the $25 eBay kit.

vastmax

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Even if they are the same gauge, the number of strands in the cable is what's most important. The more strands in the cable means less resistance which equals more smoothness.

nicks79

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resistance depends on type of metal. Gold is one of the best, though everyone can afford copper.

If you feet the difference from providing better ground - then I want one.

n3985

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The Stinger wire is 665 strands oxygen free copper with PVC insulation, no idea for the eBay ones.

And I like to add that my factory ground points were filthy, either rusted, oxidized or just dirty. A steel wire brush made everything clean and shiny

colinchan167

Would you please tell me how to install the grounding kit? I am gonna to buy one soon. Thanks

qballjr13

Would you be willing to do a write up with the wire lengths and showing where they all connect? Or am I being stupid for not searching the How-To's?

n3985

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I followed a Powerpoint presentation with install directions at first, but I've changed the wires around and stuff so much I know where all the points are now. Also, irish has a DIY writeup on his Cardomain on how to make one. Since I know the ground points, I simply took the 30ft wire, measured how long and then cut.

colinchan167

would you please send me the information of the installation to my email?
colinchan167@hotmail.com
Thanks a lot

n3985

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I have it on my other comp, I'l send it tomorrow. But the guide applies to the 5.5gen, so your ground points maybe different in certain areas.

2MuchMAX4U

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I installed the kit from Blemco which I got from another ORGer and I have to say that I noticed much smoother shifts and easier starts. On top of this I also got rid of the engine noise that I was having with my Ipod = not sure if this was because I cleaned up all the existing grounds or the kit. But I would say that this mod was defintely worth it!

n3985

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Very true, a CLEAN ground point > *

n3985

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Here is the Powerpoint with installtion instructions

Right-click and save peeps

Note: for 5.5gen only, Irish has a great DIY guide on his cardomain.

chr0nos

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cleaning the ground points did more for your car than the wire itself.

n3985

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Probably, but I think the wires accent the boring engine bay well.

Also, the above PPT guide was given to me by chr0nos, all credit goes to him.

I have an extra 6-7 ft of wires left over, time to make more wires and ground stuff.

qballjr13

Are there any issues with doing it a couple wires at a time? Or should it be done all at once or nothing?

n3985

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You do as little or as many wires at a time as you want.

qballjr13

Sweet, this really sounds like a worthy investment, time and money-wise!

steven88

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I have the blehmco ground kit for $45 shipped...quality piece if you ask me....I installed it and immediately noticed a difference in engine start up....its so effortless and smooth...2 months before the ground kit, I got myself an optima redtop....now that thing tremendously helped my car's starting power....when paired up with the blehmco ground....its awesome!

Ground Kit + Optima redtop = FTMFW!!!!!

n3985

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Ya, even if the grounding kit is placebo, I feel better knowing that the eletric system in my car is now flowing better. When it stops raining, I will be making more wires of the 6ft I have left, and will make a DIY guide for an OGK - overkill grouding kit

Edward Lee

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Sorry, that's not correct. The number of strands has nothing to do with how good the wire is. It's the purity of the wire that determines the quality. The more pure the wire the less the resistance. Strand count has no bearing on how well the wire will perform.

If you really want a good grounding kit get yourself one of these.
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qballjr13

So is the $15 worth the time to cut, sodder and shrink wrap all the ends on? Or is it just easier to order it from Matt?








POST #100!!!!!

MAXRB8

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Hey thanks for the powerpoint for 5.5Gen

MAXRB8

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Yes but for $250!!! .... I'll pass

20max01

Just FYI, I make wire for a living...WWW.LAPPUSA.COM formerly Olflex wire & Cable, in a grounding application, make sure the contacts are clean and the crimp or solder is good, for this application noone needs to go nuts...I took some multi strand hook up wire , 6 awg and made on in like 15 minutes and it made an improvement...as long as its clean and a 6-8 gauge you will be fine...no need to "over Engineer".

Edward Lee

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It's a little pricy for anyone who has to pay retail. I didn't so unsmash me. lol

20max01

PS....more stranding means more flexible, the more pure the copper the better the cable...

knight_yyz

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Any electician will tell you that gold is crap!! looks pretty and doesn't oxidize. That is the only reason gold is used. Silver is best for low resistance but it oxidizes so it isn't used.

Edward Lee

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Gennady7

Gold is definitely not crap. Gold is used in expensive hardware manufacturing because it is one of the quickest materials to conduct electricity and use top most quality. How do I know this, my college professor told us this. And knowing him, he lives chemisty.

n3985

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Here are pics of my 12 wire OGK - overkill grounding kit, made from 8-gauge Stinger wires, 665 strand oxygen free copper in PVC insulation, with 1/4 and 3/8 ring terminals from a hardware store. I cleaned off all the factory ground points, ring temrinals, and battery connections prior to installation. First, follow this guide sent to me by chr0nos, to understand what is going on and where the ground points are.

If you are going to install a grounding kit on a 5/5.5 gen, you'll need a 10mm socket for 95% of the bolts, 12mm socket, 14mm socket for the block, and most importantly a steel brush to clean, and PB Blaster for seized bolts. You'll need 1/4 ring terminals for all but the block ground and the third ground point on the intake manifold which you can see below.

Picstures are blurry b/cy gf's Sony digicam is the sux...

Passenger side hgeadlight ground


Passenger side ground #2


Alternator ground


Coil grounds


You can see from above pic that I made another small wire to connect the 2 points. If you didn't see in the Powerpoint, there are 2 original ground points there, you move the two factory ones to one bolt, and then move the new ground wires to the other bolt. I made an additonal wire to connect both ground points together.

n3985

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Intake manifold


Intake manifold 2


Intake manifold 3


Above you can see how I added another wire, the one at the top.

Block ground

n3985

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When you take off the battery, you'll see another ground which is NOT in chr0nos' PPT, pic below:



And the after:



Also, there is another ground not in the PPt, it is behind the driver's headlight, bolted to the fender.



I couldn't get to it because my headlight was in the way.

And I had all the ground wires eventually come to the CHASSIS ground where the negative battery cable too was grounded.

n3985

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And finally, one wire from the battery chassis ground to the negative terminal fo the actualy battery.



When I find a reason to take off my headlight again, which is a PITA, I'll get to the last ground point.

And to al the peeps who look at this mod as complete overkill, reason why I did it is because I bought too much wires . So since I had the wire, might as well as make more....

MFLCON

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I have some 10 gauge wires around the house, will those be suitable? Or is it mandatory that a thicker wire is used?

n3985

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I don't know enough to say whether or not 10 is enough, but I don't see why it wouldn't be....

Maxima-Ness

Those are sweet. I want one....


.....dont hate, people...

chr0nos

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i did not make this ppt. another .org member kindly sent it to me. i have it hosted on my web site, here is a link if anyone want to see some good pix of gronding points.
http://www.crimsonshift.com/maxima/h...unding_kit.ppt

knight_yyz

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Perhaps crap was the wrong choice of wrords. But if you don;t believe me check out a chart for the resistance of metals. You will find gold has a much higher resistance than copper. Silver is the lowest. Gold has a higher resistance than copper. And all the manufacturers are laughing their butts off at guys like you who think gold is so amazing. All it does is look pretty and jack up the price.