does anyone know what headers can you use? if so if you do have it does it throw a code? let me know your thoughts.

 

These are knock off of the HS headers, but from what I understand they work equally as well.

http://www.ssautochrome.com/level.itml/icOid/1433

 

i wonder if anyone else has any reviews with these headers... i don't i want to spend 800+ on headers from cattman

 

No codes if you use 02sims for your precats. Wonder if these SSautochromes would at LEAST give gains like a Y pipe on our DEK's.

 

Oh, they do.

Perform a search...

 

From what I heard buying those shortie headers are a waist of money compared to just buying the headers that are equal length with the y-pipe that fits the long headers.

 

Care to back that up, or are you just chiming in 'for the sake of posting'?

 

there is a 17hp gain... http://www.vqpower.com/v2/modules.ph...article&sid=88
if you look at it closely there is gain everywhere. unlike stock with y-pipe it jus helps some points.

 

Good info, I was thinking the same thing, Im interested in getting headers but I dont want to spend 800 dollars.

 

I wouldn't get the Stone Mountain or SSAuto Chrome headers because of the design. If you don't want to spend the money on Cattmans, just get Hotshots for $500+.

 

There are a few other things to consider here:

1. A y-pipe alone on a 95-01 provides gains in the 12-15 whp region and IIRC, they are somewhat decent across the powerband.

2. The additional 2-5 whp gains from these headers may or may not be worth it, depending on whether someone is installing these themselves or paying someone to install the headers. It is not an easy install, and IMO, it isn't worth the trouble for 2-5 whp. I'd much rather pay a little more for the Hotshots and gain the additional 8-10 whp if I'm going through the trouble to install the headers in addition to the y-pipe.

3. What do we know of the quality of these headers? Hotshot and Cattman are pretty good about standing by their products. Do we know if the same applies for this company?

 

I guess we will never know until someone buys them. So who is gonna be the first to try them???

 

i thought these had been dynoed and proved worthless just like the crap that stone mountain and stillen sold for headers. for the record, i would consider worthless gaining 4hp over a y pipe.

 

no... and i made my point across, just because i have a low post count doesnt mean i dont know jack squat

 

heres the scenario guys, full exhaust with the exception of headers, gains? thrown codes? has anyone tried it? if so I would like to hear from you. thank you metal for the link, I dont have time right now to look at it in detail but i will pursue it further. Just want to know are the headers worth the power gains.

 

Last I remember they were put on, put on the dyno, quickly taken off and replaced with HotShot headers.

They showed almost no gains.

 

hmm, hotshot sounds like the way to go. So where can we get these for 500? i'm not ready just preparing myself mentally.

 

I just bought a y pipe and headers off my buddy that has a 97 max for 200 bucks. Tonight I put on the y pipe and I'm decently impressed with its performance. Towards 4 grand it really starts to show. Over the weekend I should be putting in the headers. I don't remember what brand they are because frankly I didn't even look. I have a 2000 SE btw.

I'll post back once I get them in. Should be around Sunday or so when we do it, so sorry I'll have to make you guys wait until then.

DF

PS: Mods, I can't post threads or send PM's. It gives me an error everytime saying I don't have permission...?

EDIT: And as for exhaust mods I have only now the one cat after the y pipe and then straights after that and no codes are showing up (no resonator or muffler, yes I know....LOUD, but I'm waiting to find the right muffler Suggestions are welcome).

 

yea u dont have enough posts...to avoid whoring and just extra newbie questions, there's a set amount of posts needed for u to be able to post your own thread....

 

Do you have any pics of the ones you are installing?

 

I can get some, just need to use one of my friend's phone's or find a digital camera somewhere. Oh and the headers and y pipe are from XSPerformance.

DF

 

If you could install the y-pipe onto the stock headers, then those headers you have aren't going to give you much more. All the gains from those so-called header systems are from the y-pipe and not the manifolds, as shown in the dynos posted earlier.

 

would the hotshot 02-03 headers Part#:NS3017 fit on a 01?

 

definitely let us know DF!!!! I would love to hear your thoughts on this and what it does for your car!!!

 

you are correct puppetmaster, but in listening to steven88's system, it just sounds so bad as*!!!! like a skyline!!!! and if it doesn't throw a code and you get a better response out of the car then it might be worth it. even though dyno tests don't show gains.

 

Yes...

 

I think you're confused, the headers discussed in this thread are completely different from Steven88's. My reference was to the headers that are similar to the stock headers, not the Cattman or Hotshot headers. Steven88 has Cattman headers, that is a completely different animal, and not to mention, provide way more gains on the dyno than the Stone Racing/SSAUtochrome/XSPerformance headers. About the exhaust tone, the Stone Racing/SSAUtochrome/XSPerformance headers will not sound anywhere close to the Cattman or Hotshots because of the lack of long tubes and equal length collectors.

 

youre right!
It sounds to me you're more of a dyno performance guy. which I can appreciate that!! I was well aware that the headers steven88 has were different than the one of current topic. on the otherside, who said I was getting the Stone Racing/SSAUtochrome/XSPerformance headers anyhow? I think you misinterpreted was I saying. which is understandable since this is by post and not in conversation.
I think you confused my enthusiasm for steve88's headers as the headers of discussion, I probably could have been more specific.

 

no they are not, they are knockoffs of $tillens and we all know how much they suck

 

Yeah I don't see any real gains coming from the headers that I have. Honestly they look like duplicates of what I already have on. I have them though, and I don't think I'll lose any power.

Who knows maybe it will change the tone of my exhaust a little bit? And a little SS chrome bling bling never hurts.....

DF

 

After 6.5 hours of working and stress I would like to retract the previous statement.

But anyways, headers are now on. The rear bank is only bolted on with one nut and the front headers are on completely. Tomorrow my buddy and I will finish up the install.

I apologize because I couldn't find a camera, I'll take pics once its all done and write up a review or something.....right now I want to shoot myself.

DF

 

Dfownz im a bit confused which headers are you currently installing? the ones your buddy gave you or the SS headers?

Isnt running straight pipes bad for your engine because you dont have any backpressure?

 

SS XSPerformance headers that came with a SS XSPerformance Y-pipe.

I don't know if I have enough backpressure to say if I have any and I am not educated enough to know that that would hurt my car.

DF

 

Having zero or minimum backpressure is a good thing. You want exhaust flow velocity, not backpressure.

 

I'm so happy you said that, right now I'm at the point where I can kill someone from those damn headers!

 

good stuff

 

Headers are in. Not sure how anyone else has ever attempted this, but we decided to do it all from the bottom. In the end we had to take out both heat shields on the headers, crossmember, both motor mounts under the headers and of course, the y pipe. Last night (monday), the install back on went pretty quick, nothing that noteworthy that would help anyone else. It was more or less just struggle with every nut until it was tight enough. I wouldn't suggest this for anyone with 'beginner' level skills, even though I am by no means an expert.

As for added power, I noticed maybe a slight increase of power. Also, first gear now broils when I mat it, so I'm definetly getting a lot more power and this was with 3 heads in the car, subs, jacks, and the old headers heh.

Feel free to IM me for more specific questions or just ask them here!

DF

PS: Sorry about me being lame with no pics, I really want to show off my shiny headers under the hood too!

 

heres the solution u get what u pay for ok go with the hotshot buddy