I was wondering if the cams in the 350z are the same as our cams? I am hoping they have more agressive cams but I am pretty sure they dont.

 

yup they are the same exact cams. pretty much everything is the same except for the block which is shaped different due to it having to be rear wheel drive. now quit worrying about cams and get back to us when you find out about the SFC's

 

i hope your not serious about this right?

 

That shop pulled out on me so I went to another shop on friday. I could have that guy do it but to be honest I didnt really trust him. I am going to go to a very well known shop on monday who I know can do the job well and last winter they quoted me 300$ which is reasonable so if they arent busy I am going to probably have them do it.

The real problem is that any shop that doesnt suck around here seems to be too busy to work on my car.

 

The REVUP cams are different.

 

I am wondering if there are any cams out there for the Vq35 that retain close to stock idle charachteristics. This is a luxury car and I dont want it to idle like a cammed out camaro but I think cams would be a very good way to make some extra ponies.

I am guessing the Nismo cams would have a very stock like idle. And would still be reliable in the freezing cold

 

No they wouldnt. You have to raise the idle on those to like 900-1000+. You want the revup cams or the JWT knockoffs(even these need a higher idle)

 

I was talking to a guy from Stillen and he told me that the Nisno cams will have a very hard idle quality. I just bought the cam set from Stillen for my 03 max. I`m getting them installed sometime in July. Stillen told me to expect somewhere around 30-40 hp increase. I have a lot of other work done to, to get me up to 30-40 hp increase from the cams

 

Lol I would love to see you get 30-40hp from cams. Make sure to dyno before and after

 

the only way to get 30-40 hp out of only casms is by adding the Maxima.Org stickers, it is proven 20-40 hp at the wheels ,to the car.
to the car. Stillen sell great products but I will need to see it to believe it. You can get the most aroung 20hp but not30-40.

 

I am pretty sure he meant 30-40 hp at the crank which would be around 20-30 whp which on a stock car is high but if your car is modded at all that sounds pretty accurate. I know on a stock car you get about 20 whp from the JWT knockoff cams. With a lot of mods you could see 30-40 whp from cams. It really depends on how aggressive the cam is

Are the revup cams the cams found in the 300hp 30th anaversery edition 350z?

 

yup steven then you do the research. because our motors along with the z have the same bore&stroke same compression and exact same heads. valvetrain doesnt change either. now i still haven't researched about the revvup motors which i will ook into right now

 

i think you need to go back and do some research....becuz we DO NOT have the exact same engine...

200-205whp in a stock maxima versus 230-245whp in a stock 350z....don't tell me those are the exact same engines...

 

Differ headers, differ intake, differ tuning....

 

Thats not due to internal engine differences. Mainly thats due to a freer flowing intake and plenum, and probably freer flowing headers not to mention a different ECU. But they are still internally the same engine.

The 300hp 30th anaversery edition of the 350z might have had a more agressive cam but I am pretty sure even that engine is basically the same internally

 

sorry to tell you but yes they are the same. like sciff says its all with the way the intake and exhaust are setup and with the tuning of the ecu. plus front wheel drive cars will always lose about i believe 15-20% more power than rear wheel drive. im not sure on the cams for the new 350z's, they might have just messed around with the ecu a bit more. cause they gained 13hp but lost like 12ft lbs. i don't think you do that with cams, but i could be wrong

 

RWD looses more power through the drivetrain usually than FWD. Its the only advantage that FWD cars have over RWD cars in my opinion and its a small advantage.

 

Half the **** you're saying in this thread is wrong.

 

I beg to differ...because of what kevlo911 said

i think you should stop spitting false information...and go back to doing your research

 

Hell the newer Z's have differ heads IIRC. Some of the valvetrain is different too.

Even the 6th gen has changes to the motor.

 

well then show me some info and shut me up until then c'ya

 

I know that there are minor changes internally between the motors, but I still thought all the parts were interchangeable.

 

the b&s is the same, but the compression ratios are different. a Z is 10.3:1 and the maxima is 10.4:1. i dont know how much of a difference that makes, i dont know too much about the internals of an engine...

 

http://www.new-cars.com/2003/nissan/...cs.html#engine

http://www.new-cars.com/2003/nissan/...cs.html#engine

same compression

 

now see you guys are talking to me a bout the newer z's, thats the thing sciff never said what year 350z. the thing im trying to say is that our motors are the same its that one motor is for FWD and one is for RWD. So in order to put a 350z motor in our cars the mounts have to be in different locations which would change the shape of the block a bit. Heads for sure are the same, because if you have ever taken a look our heads have extra threaded holes to accomodate 350z manifolds. and everytime you look for maxima head parts such as cams its the same part # as cams for a 350z. Kevlo i believe the difference in 6th gen motors is just the intake manifold other than that they are the same buddy.

 

this is the newer 300hp 350z which still has the same compression ratio and bore and stroke as our motors

https://www.autobytel.com/content/re...andardFeatures

 

FSM > autobytel/newcars.com.org.net

 

6th gen has minor block changes on the outside, also some of us believe it is the GEN3 VQ35. They also have the EGR system back in it.

Yes the older Z's have the same heads. But I am pretty sure the new one is different. Also some people say the 260hp G(which might be the same as the max) have differ cams than the 287hp Z.

 

all im saying is where is your info or proof

 

Okay...now i might a be a rookie in da org but i ain't a rookie in VQ3.5. Nissan is a technology happy company and alot of power can be unleashed from the 3.5 when u mess with the ECU. You might think its impossible but all they did was some ECU tuning to get the extra power. Beside the higher flow im and better exhaust system, the extra power comes from tuning the ECU.
Check it out if you do the research its is proven that nissan just does tuning to get more power outta the 3.5L. This engines are ALSO DETUNED in the U.S. RUMOR HAS IT THAT 3.5L CAN PRODUCE 400HP STOCK.
The VQ35DE is featured in the following vehicles:

* 2001-2004 Nissan Pathfinder (240 hp)
* 2002-2004 Nissan Maxima (255 hp)
* 2004- Nissan Maxima (265 hp)
* 2003-2006 Infiniti G35 (280 hp to 298 hp)
* Infiniti QX4 (240 hp)
* 2002-2004 Infiniti I35 (255 hp)
* 2003- Nissan 350Z (from 287 to 301 hp)
* Nismo Z S-Tune GT 295 hp (VQ35DE S1 engine)
* 2002- Nissan Skyline (V35) (280 hp)
* Nissan Stagea (M35) (272 hp)
* 2003- Nissan Teana
* 2003- Nissan Presage
* 2004- Nissan Fuga (280 hp)
* 2000- Nissan Elgrand (245 hp)
* 2002- Nissan Quest (240 hp)
* 2004- Nissan Murano (Z50) (245 hp)
* 2002 - 2006 Nissan Altima (from 250 to 260 hp)
* Infiniti FX35 (280 hp)
* Renault Espace (241 hp)
* Renault Vel Satis (241 hp)

All this have diff. power outta the VQ3.5DE just with ECU tuning...

A modified version of the VQ35DE, called the S1 is produced by Nismo for the Fairlady Z S-Tune GT. It produces 300 ps or 285 hp (220 kW) at 7200rpm - a higher rev-limit than that of the original VQ35DE. Gud luck trying to find this engine though in the US.

 

TO answer Sciff...

We have the same car (same year and make) JWT makes cams for the VQ35DE. The Block on the I35, Maxima, 350Z, and G35 are all the same. IDENTICAL. There are some differences in overall motor, E.G. The plenum, IM..
I HAVE the cams in the I35 so I am talking from experience here. You will NOT gain 30WHP or even 20 for that matter. Most likely with all the mods that you have you can acheive 15WHP with them and some aggressive tuning. On top of that, I suggest you take the car to Infiniti or Nissan to do the work. If you want a quote, I'll give you one. JWT cams....1499.00...LABOR from Kings Infiniti (Brooklyn, NY) 1575.00. $3074.00 total cost...for 15WHp was not practical in my opinion. I DID feel the difference in the cams across the band, but not to the tune of 3074.00. I wish I had turboed the car or supercharged the car for the dollars. JWT cams WILL fit the I35, Nismo Cams WILL fit the I35, and by the way the idle is NOT 900-1000 and will not idle like a camaro. The idle I have is set at 850. Biggest difference I felt after Install was the pull RIGHT off the line. Hope this helps Sciff.

 

^^^^^^^ About time there is some real information in this thread that is credible and correct.

 

wow....15 whp @ $3000+. really makes you think, a lot, about mods. actually kind of discouraging.

thanks for the info sleeper.

 

Who said it was credible or correct?

 

It was your cat....

 

Damn pu$$y.

 

 

I would get the JWT knockoffs for 550 shipped, pay my buddy 100$ or a case of beer and a tank of gass for his time and install them with him. Thats 650$ for 15whp, which I would guess would be more like 20whp if I had Intake, plenum spacer, headers, and exhaust, as most of these mods work synergistically together.

That sounds a little more reasonable to me, but before I did cams I would deff need to ride in your car or another cammed car first to see how much different the idle charachteristics are.

 

is it really that easy to install cams? i heard it takes a LOONG time and requires special tools? iirc, the great sr20den took 11hours or so to install Donkey's cams....granted it was his first time doing it, he still is an automotive technician for a living...

 

Dunno but i installed cams on a H22 (HONDA) engine in like 30 minutes....i nailed the timing and everything!!! Don't think i will be as brave trying it on my own car hmmmm i'll practice and more honda's first..lol