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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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My $15 mod :)

Kinda got tired of the all white. With the HIDS on, you couldnt even tell the difference when i threw on my high beams. So i changed it up a bit, with the high beams on, it actually makes a difference in those dark areas, and lights up the area pretty dam well.

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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 01:36 AM
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what kinda bulbs are they?
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 04:41 AM
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rewire the fogs......looks pretty nice....
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 08:14 AM
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You should also re-aim your driver's side head light. The beam is a bit low. It should line up with the passenger side. That will help a lot.
It should look like this:
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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rewire the fogs......looks pretty nice....
im also trying to do that next, but im not to good when it comes to wiring, when i saw the write-up, i decided to just wait and have someone do for me.
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 09:07 AM
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You should also re-aim your driver's side head light. The beam is a bit low. It should line up with the passenger side. That will help a lot.
It should look like this:
Actually, the headlight is supposed to be aimed like that. It makes it so that the lights don't blind oncoming traffic, especially with HID's. If you look at all newer cars, they will have the lights like that. If the cars have projectors with or without HID's, you will see a very sharp cuttout that's lower than the passenger side in the beam pattern.
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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Actually, the headlight is supposed to be aimed like that. It makes it so that the lights don't blind oncoming traffic, especially with HID's. If you look at all newer cars, they will have the lights like that. If the cars have projectors with or without HID's, you will see a very sharp cuttout that's lower than the passenger side in the beam pattern.

That is true. On most cars even on older models, the driver side is intentionally aimed slightly lower and with a small degree of offset to the right for countries that drive on the right hand side of the road like the US and Canada. For countries that drive on the left like England, it's just the opposite. That is why it is necessary to adjust the headlights whenever a right hand drive car is driven in a country with left hand drive cars and vice versa. Just my 2 cents.
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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Actaully, if you look on HIDPlanet, there are tons of wall shots of OEM projectors in their original housings aimed exactly like mine are. All of the retrofits by some of the most skilled retrofitters are also aimed exactly as mine are.
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by infiniteecho
Actaully, if you look on HIDPlanet, there are tons of wall shots of OEM projectors in their original housings aimed exactly like mine are. All of the retrofits by some of the most skilled retrofitters are also aimed exactly as mine are.
So let be get this straight. Are you trying to say that aiming the drivers side a bit lower than the passenger side is incorrect. I am not sure if that's what you are implying.
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 11:45 AM
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They should both be low, but they should be level. It's not secret that Maxima HIDs in our generation are some of the worst OE HIDs out there. Nore is it any secret that the 04+ HIDs are aimed really high from the factory. Granted they are very nice projectors.

This is how your headlights should be aimed:
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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infiniteecho is right. They should be level.
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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you guys are all assuming that his car is sitting on a level driveway while facing that garage door....believe it or not, some driveways have slope to them, both longitudinal and transverse....

Originally Posted by infiniteecho
Actaully, if you look on HIDPlanet, there are tons of wall shots of OEM projectors in their original housings aimed exactly like mine are. All of the retrofits by some of the most skilled retrofitters are also aimed exactly as mine are.
citing HIDPlanet as the resource for knowing what the LEGAL way the headlights should be aimed?? You MUST be joking. HIDPlanet....the forum that is dedicated to doing every kind of illegal lighting mod out there - remember, ANY non-OEM HID setups are illegal here in the US...So all those retros, 8000k bulbs, etc are illegal. HIDPlanet is not the place to see what is "legal" IMHO....

Redstone is correct that DOT regulations indicate that the light closer to oncoming traffic is aimed slighly down from the other light (in our case the left front light). In the UK, it's the right front light (I've driven there, and my brand-new rental car was setup like this)....
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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HIDPlanet does not condone the use of 8000K bulbs, after market HID kits or anything of the sort. I am in the process of buying a new truck. I am also a lot manager at a new and used car dealership. I have seen all the beam patterns and cut offs on every type of vehicle from a myriad of model years. Even the 2006 cars have a LEVEL (as in both aimed to the same height of one another) cut off.

Why do you think there are the steps in the cut off? The lower part is to not blind on coming traffic while the step up is to provide visibilitly down the road. The lights are to be aimed together. That is how they come from the factory, and on used cars that is how we are required to aim them. In Rhode Island they test headlight aiming when they inspect your car, and guess what? Mine are aimed exactly as they should be. Matched up perfectly with the marked out space on the wall.

In reguards to his drive way, it doesn't matter, he has already stated that he has aimed one lower on his own doing. Yes I know that the pitch of the drive way would matter, but I am not talking about the hight of the cut off from the ground, but rather how the two are not level with one another.
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by infiniteecho
HIDPlanet does not condone the use of 8000K bulbs, after market HID kits or anything of the sort.
You're kidding, right?
HIDPlanet's FRONT PAGE has FOR SALE the "Complete Bosch Xenon D2S HID Projector Package" from their site. How do they not condone use of after market HID kits, when they actually SELL them??



Don't get me wrong, HIDplanet is a good, useful forum/site full of useful information. I'm not saying it's not...

I have NO problem with that, personally. But let's not try to pretend that retrofitting a HID Projector headlight into a 1991 Honda Civic is legal. It's not.

Hell, it is *technically* illegal of me to have the 02-03 HIDs in my 2000 Maxima....
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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HIDPLanet offers proper retrofitting with OEM HID Kits, not them glaring 12k HID Kits, which I used to own (6k Hanabi). They have links, and procedures to properly aim your lights, any lights. So they may not be legal legal, but they offer you something better than them non oem hid kits.
My lights are leveled, and their is a step that is dropped on the driver side. The Passenger side step that is dropped is blended in with the step that is upped on the Driver side, thats why you dont see it, because its blended in.


Infini***ech is correct.


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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by infiniteecho
You should also re-aim your driver's side head light. The beam is a bit low. It should line up with the passenger side. That will help a lot.
It should look like this:

No You shouldn't reaim your driver's side light. It is supposed to be that way.
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Yes, the kit they are selling as all OEM quality equipment. No where in there are they selling you anything higher then 4500k bulbs, and they're not selling ****ty rebased kits like 99% of the internet is. If you want to play that game then we can.

No where in any of my posts have I said anything about the legality of a retrofit. I am only pointing out that what you are saying about aiming the headlights is wrong. Flat out wrong. I am using HIDPlanet since most of you know what that is. Would citing the Rhode Island inspection manual be more to your liking? Put away your little "You got owned" emoticons and stop wasting bandwidth.

Yes, you're right that having the 5.5 gen lights on your 5th gen Maxima is illegal. And so is any other retro. Having improper aiming is also illegal. Police out here have a measuring device with which they can measure your beam pattern. What has been posted above would fail.
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ßaller
HIDPLanet offers proper retrofitting with OEM HID Kits, not them glaring 12k HID Kits, which I used to own (6k Hanabi). They have links, and procedures to properly aim your lights, any lights. So they may not be legal legal, but they offer you something better than them non oem hid kits.
Jesus....I'm NOT ARGUING that retros are a bad thing.....I was just replying to Infinitecho's post that HIDPlanet does not condone, and I quote, "aftermarket HID kits."

HIDPlanet DOES condone their use, and even sells them. That's all I'm saying. I didn't say that they endorse 12K kits or anything like that, but the fact remains that even 4100K retro kits are illegal (even if they shouldn't be)....
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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Let me clarify: By aftermarket I meant an e-bay kit, or something where you are only sticking an HID bulb into a reflector or projector which was designed for a halogen bulb.

Granted technically what HIDPlanet is selling is aftermarket, they are OEM parts.

Sorry for the miscommunication.
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by infiniteecho
Yes, the kit they are selling as all OEM quality equipment. No where in there are they selling you anything higher then 4500k bulbs, and they're not selling ****ty rebased kits like 99% of the internet is. If you want to play that game then we can.
what game? You said they don't endorse HID kits. They do. Period. I said nothing about the quality of the kits. They sell good quality HID kits...but they are HID KITS none the less. What are you arguing here, exactly?

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Would citing the Rhode Island inspection manual be more to your liking?
If I lived in Rhode Island, sure....

On second thought, why don't you go ahead and cite it, just for information's sake. There may be one or two other Rhode Islanders on these boards that would like to know.

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Put away your little "You got owned" emoticons and stop wasting bandwidth.
Did I hurt your feelings? I'm sorry...I'll be sure to treat you with kid gloves from now on. (kidding, of course...please dont take it seriously)

Originally Posted by infiniteecho
Yes, you're right that having the 5.5 gen lights on your 5th gen Maxima is illegal. And so is any other retro. Having improper aiming is also illegal. Police out here have a measuring device with which they can measure your beam pattern. What has been posted above would fail.
You're right...it would probably fail on the basis of yellow bulbs in the high beams. I don't believe that that is legal in the US these days....
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by infiniteecho
Let me clarify: By aftermarket I meant an e-bay kit, or something where you are only sticking an HID bulb into a reflector or projector which was designed for a halogen bulb.

Granted technically what HIDPlanet is selling is aftermarket, they are OEM parts.

Sorry for the miscommunication.

I hope you know I'm just giving you a hard time. It is a slow night indeed when we are discussing headlight aiming..simply nothing better to do.



Probably because I autocross/road race.....I consider anything that isn't "stock" as "aftermarket" - i.e. I can't install the turbo from a 300Z onto my Maxima and run in "stock" class...even though it's an "OEM" turbo, technically.


now, let's keep this up! There's nothing good on TV right now!
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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I cleared up my miscommunication about my definition of what an HID Kit is. There is no point to arguing about this.

If one is complaining about terrible light output or not being able to see, then aim your headlights how they should be -- as they came from the factory. (as mine are)

To each their own. Feel free to aim them as you see fit. Not my problem. If you feel that aiming your light a little lower on the driver's side changes the world, be my guest. For every person that aims their light down, there are 50 more ricers who will add an aftermarket glare machine to their car. As long as your cut off is not going into their car, you're not making any difference. Just lowering your own visibility. Just my .02
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RedlineMax dog says "this thread sucks!"

Touche' to you, infiniteecho...you're right it's really not worth arguing about

Old Jun 11, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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lol, you're right there really mustn't be anything good on TV...
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 06:36 PM
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lol, you're right there really mustn't be anything good on TV..
Things you need to add to your christmas list this year:
(1) Thicker Skin
(2) Inetlligence
(3) Dental work to repair the damage rendered from putting your foot in your mouth.

And irish certainley had you...

Old Jun 11, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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wow... all this caused by a fooking noob, i want the last 5 mins of my life back


and rkyat, what kinda bulbs are those?
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Metal Maxima
Things you need to add to your christmas list this year:
(1) Thicker Skin
(2) Inetlligence
(3) Dental work to repair the damage rendered from putting your foot in your mouth.

And irish certainley had you...

:
no worries, mate

(heh, "Inetlligence") - nice freudian slip there
Old Jun 11, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
RedlineMax dog says "this thread sucks!"

Touche' to you, infiniteecho...you're right it's really not worth arguing about

were the bike trails closed today? Shoulda done that then argue hahahaha.
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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so really where was the $15 spent? any writeups
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by GETukrainian
wow... all this caused by a fooking noob, i want the last 5 mins of my life back


and rkyat, what kinda bulbs are those?
lol amazing how this thread turned into a debate about aiming lights. just a question, i never moved my headlights are anything, there in the same state as i got em, i just changed my bulbs, so are you saying they're misaligned? In any case, ill find a flat wall one day on a level road and see how they aim on it. and btw, my driveway is sloped DOWN and a little to one side as well, its not perfectly flat.

the bulbs, are some bulbs i just got off ebay. $14 and change shipped. 3000k style 9005 bulbs.
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 03:32 AM
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no worries, mate
I know, I was just trying to stir up the ashes from a dying flame-fest.

(heh, "Inetlligence") - nice freudian slip there
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 08:04 AM
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so are you saying they're misaligned? In any case, ill find a flat wall one day on a level road and see how they aim on it.
I am saying yes, the driver's side beam is too low. The top of your driver's side stop is aligned with the bottom of the passenger's side beam.

I am saying that is incorrect from the best of my knowledge and what I have been told working at a new and used car dealership. Also in the training manuals for getting your State Inspection license, it tells you the correct aiming procedure. The diagram I posted above was made to those guide lines.

If I were you I would reaim them as mine are. But, that is your call. Some people agree with me, while others do not. In the end it's your choice.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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the 15$ was spent on the yellow bulbs he added for the high beams
Old Jun 21, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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You got a sweet ride! I really like how you got them lights set up!
Old Jun 22, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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it looks hot, can you post the steps you took to do it, because i was thinking about changing my fogs also.
Old Jun 22, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
"true that....double true."
LOL what a great way to end.

Nice highbeams, I'd rather have yellow fogs but if you like em then nice.
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