Finally! My Pics and Initial Review of the Custom SFCs (56k No Way)
Originally Posted by irish44j
sciff....
it's kind of ironic that you are working on frame stiffening, yet the two "mystery" bolt holes are supposed to have a hefty metal piece that attaches the frame to the front subframe....which apparently is missing from your car...I wonder if only SE models have it, to stiffen things up a bit

it's kind of ironic that you are working on frame stiffening, yet the two "mystery" bolt holes are supposed to have a hefty metal piece that attaches the frame to the front subframe....which apparently is missing from your car...I wonder if only SE models have it, to stiffen things up a bit


All Maximas have those bracket/connector pieces stock, but Matt Blehm said to remove them when you install the LTB since the LTB ties it together anyway. However, I got one of the first LTBs made and he forget to mention it so I had to bend the LTB. So I have the bracket and the LTB, double trouble.
Originally Posted by OhOhMax
The SFC's... they are nowhere near the size of the ones I put on my Z28, lol.
Lol most of the Z28 SFCs are 1.75" or 2" square ERW tubing. They are pretty strong but they are heavy as ****, which doesnt matter as much when you have a 5.7L v8 (aluminum block if its a 98 or newer) propelling you, with a ton of torque.
BTW drunk posting kicks ***. I cant wait to sober up just to take my car out tomorrow. The illuminas are set to 5/5 right now and when I used to hit a certain few bumps it would make my passengers cringe. Now when I go over them its like they didnt exist.. it really is quite a large difference. I like to fully review things before I give them praise so this mod I wanted to hold off on before saying how great it was but after further review I deff see how it improves ride and handling but it will only improve handling if your really pushing your car. Under normal circumstances (like going down the highway) even an experienced driver isnt really going to be able to tell the handling benefits till they get into the hard corners, but once they are in the corners, if your sensititve to changes in the behavior of your car you will DEFF feel an immediate diff..
In regards to the piece of metal I am mysteriously missing.. wtf... no wonder I am always saying how my car understeers and plows through corners mercilessly and it takes some quick transitions to ellict some snap oversteer to get the tail to step out even a tiny bit. Which is does with the Eibachs and RSB ever so slightly and controllably. I LOVE it! now I need to get the LTB and Aluminum front subframe bushings, and a performance alignment with -1 degree of camber instead of 1 degree... and (it may be hard to admit this) I may just be done with suspension mods on this car(well at least till something new comes out. )
I am way addicted if you cant tell at this point. I love this stuff. It seriously is my crack cocaine.
Originally Posted by sciff5
Did you read my response to his post on that one. The pic he was referring to was the welds on the tab on the frame rail, but of course that area has to be completly recovered with rubberized undercoat.
I'm not 'hating' or anything of that nature. This is AWESOME that you have iponeered this project.
But some of those welds just plain suck, dude.
Originally Posted by sciff5
In regards to the piece of metal I am mysteriously missing.. wtf... no wonder I am always saying how my car understeers and plows through corners mercilessly and it takes some quick transitions to ellict some snap oversteer to get the tail to step out even a tiny bit. Which is does with the Eibachs and RSB ever so slightly and controllably. I LOVE it! now I need to get the LTB and Aluminum front subframe bushings, and a performance alignment with -1 degree of camber instead of 1 degree... and (it may be hard to admit this) I may just be done with suspension mods on this car(well at least till something new comes out. )
on chassis/suspension mods. I think I have everything except an RSB, which I don't want. Springs/struts, FSTB, RSTB, Stage II LTB, JClaw's traction bars, Ben's rear strut mounts, and all available Energy Suspension bushings.
Originally Posted by VQuick
All Maximas have those bracket/connector pieces stock, but Matt Blehm said to remove them when you install the LTB since the LTB ties it together anyway. However, I got one of the first LTBs made and he forget to mention it so I had to bend the LTB. So I have the bracket and the LTB, double trouble.
nice work finally getting somebody to get this manufactured. can you talk to the shop/fabricator, and get these in production? we need someone else besides warpspeed to make these.
i would like to get a set, if it's only $150-200. i imagine there will be a few more people that would like to get them too.
i would like to get a set, if it's only $150-200. i imagine there will be a few more people that would like to get them too.
hey; got precise blueprints on this subframe dealy? My dad's an Engineer and a certified MIG/TIG/ARC Welder. I bet if i could work something out and get some Chromoly i could make some seriously nice pieces
Originally Posted by Maxim(a)SerjVQ
hey; got precise blueprints on this subframe dealy? My dad's an Engineer and a certified MIG/TIG/ARC Welder. I bet if i could work something out and get some Chromoly i could make some seriously nice pieces 

Hey Sciff5 if you fabriacate anymore of those i would be interested in both your stage 1 and stage 2 as you call it. The roads here in hawaii are bumpy has **** and curvey, so i think it is a must for SFC. PM me if your gonna get some fabricated.
Originally Posted by maxS
+1 for effort, but... shouldn't there be a LOT of tubing to bridge the tunnel (where the b-pipe goes) / rails, not just one tube 

There is a stamped metal peice that you have to take out. I prob should have gone with thicker tubing for that piece going across the center but this tubing although thin in over all diameter, is tougher than it looks cause its wall thickness is .120" and the peice that you take out although it looks tough is really light, cheap, and weak for its size. I bet its the same type of material that the peices are made out of that I'm missing by the front subframe bushings. So it will prob be good if I made that peice that I'm missing from 1/4" steel stock, would prob be much stronger too.
BTW update on handling feel.. I was taking some sharp corners today going in with some engine braking in a low gear and for the first time I heard noise from the rear tires before the front tires. Which is DEFF a first. Its a little easier to induce oversteer now, but even in sharp transitions where the oversteer should be snap oversteer in this car it isnt, Its the good type of oversteer where the rear tires just start sliding very progressivly and never make you feel nervous. I like it a lot. I am kinda hesatent to go with the LTB and stiffen up the front cause I am affraid it will make the car understeer more. Its just starting to oversteer enough for me.
Originally Posted by sciff5
I am kinda hesatent to go with the LTB [I assume stage 2] and stiffen up the front cause I am affraid it will make the car understeer more. Its just starting to oversteer enough for me.
After I installed my LTB, I did not feel any difference in understeer/oversteer balance. The only difference was in steering feel and precision.
Originally Posted by DrKlop
Than go with stage 1.
After I installed my LTB, I did not feel any difference in understeer/oversteer balance. The only difference was in steering feel and precision.
After I installed my LTB, I did not feel any difference in understeer/oversteer balance. The only difference was in steering feel and precision.
To me I can never get enough steering feel and precision. I think when I foam the stage 1 tubes it will exaggerate the cars tendency to oversteer. If this is the case I wont think twice about the stage 2 LTB and solid front subframe bushings. Plus adding that piece that I'm missing, and possibly tie the LTB into the SFCs, which would be a pretty damn sick setup. I already have the ES bushings in the back of my car waiting to go in.. I am just waiting till I have the patience to actually do the install as I have been very busy with work on my car lately.
Originally Posted by VQuick
ES bushings are a huge pain in the @$$ so be sure to allow yourself plenty of time and beer.
I am constantly busy with this bad boy.
I dont know about time but I got lots of beer
Originally Posted by sciff5
I have the LCA, FSB, and rear trailing arm ES bushings to do, as well as foam the SFCs, and get solid front subframe bushings.
I am constantly busy with this bad boy.
I dont know about time but I got lots of beer
I am constantly busy with this bad boy.
I dont know about time but I got lots of beer
Dude let me know how hard the rear trailing arm bushings are to do I got all my bushings done this week exept those and if these sfc go into production pm me so I can get down on gd
Originally Posted by stormbringer03
Dude let me know how hard the rear trailing arm bushings are to do I got all my bushings done this week exept those and if these sfc go into production pm me so I can get down on gd
I dont know if I will have the time to get them into production but I did a lot of research on what materials to use and how much to use and general dimensions which I am making public information so hopefully that helps someone else whos in a better spot to get them into production.
I think I am going to do the bushings on the max if I have some downtime while building my other car. Right now all time is being spent getting an aluminum small block ls1 into a 2500lb Rx7.
Originally Posted by Teufelhunden
lookgs good, so what stage is this? 1 or 2?
Also so far I have yet to scrape the bars anywhere, where as I know a guy with the warpspeed design that scrapes ALL THE TIME and the warpspeed setup uses weaker thinner tubing.
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