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Old 08-29-2006 | 04:38 PM
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LED Taillights, Metal Maxima Style...PART I: Design. NEED YOUR CRITIQUE!

WATERMARK FTL. But whatever.

Running lights are RED, turn signal AMBER.

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its okay not to big fan of how it looks at the moment
Old 08-29-2006 | 04:42 PM
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How would you like to see it spread out?
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IMO, signals should also be round and more red leds.
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more brake lights maybe?

kevlo you mean something like the skyline brake lights and turn signal?
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
IMO, signals should also be round and more red leds.
Well, unfortunatley Nissan g'ayed up and made them ovals. However, a circle inside of an oval would look strange...
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more brake lights maybe?

kevlo you mean something like the skyline brake lights and turn signal?
Yeah, I think it does need more brake lights.
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You guys thinkg a circle in an oval housing might look goofy?
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Well an oval inside an oval...
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I agree it just needs more running light LEDs. The Turn signals look fine, I think, but I would like to see a bit less space between them and the brake lights.
Old 08-29-2006 | 05:03 PM
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Alrightty, thanks for the comments, fellas...back to the drawing board!
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Dan....my second job is Valet Parking....and one of my favorite tailights that i park is the Range Rover 06-07
where the outer led lights blinks
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That's certainley another thought...I really like that idea, Spencer!
Old 08-29-2006 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by spencediggy
Dan....my second job is Valet Parking....and one of my favorite tailights that i park is the Range Rover 06-07
where the outer led lights blinks
damn you beat me to it... i was gonna say take a look at those cuz i followed a range rover out of my way jsut to see the light work for a while they are truly awesome the new jettas also have something similar
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Hey Metal, I was kinda bored late at night, so I decided to try to help you out per some of the suggestions floating around this thread. I drew a few examples of how a version of the Range Rover style (Amber out, Brake in) could look on 00/01 SE and 02/03 tails. Here are the pics:


These following three show how it could look at night. (basically, dimmed out the layers underneath and created a virtual LED look.)


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02-03 style:

And same examples for the 02-03 style.




Hope this helps, and maybe gives a better idea of what it could look like. If you would like for me to make some changes and toss some ideas around, shoot me a PM, but i'll also subscribe to this thread. Good luck Metal!
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zero that looks sweet
Old 08-29-2006 | 11:54 PM
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I like the red outer ring with the amber inside...
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Originally Posted by D-Bo
I like the red outer ring with the amber inside...
yea i agree with you on that, red outer and amber inner would look better
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I am a fan of the red on the outside but I think you may have trouble seeing it well in the daytime in a following car. Like you said, more LEDs maybe? I am also a fan of the large inner red LED brake light, though. With what you've come up with in the past, don't let anyone here dissuade you! Whatever it is will probably be more than adequate. Good luck man!
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Thanks The Law. I'll be glad to make a new variation, but i'd like to hear from Metal first, then I can draw up a new one basically reversed.
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Zero, NICE PICS. What program did you use, anyway?

I am going to be making up 4 different designs this evening and post them up...I will need some more feedback as the design I go with will be the version I am going to sell.
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i had kevlo led tails in my 4th gen and he used rows...is there anyway to mimick hat sord ot design so u could still keep the same look to the tail light. because if u do the design u guys are talkin about we would have to use the rice clear ones right?
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Thanks Metal, I used Macromedia Flash. If you would like, I could take those designs and make them into the taillights again...
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Originally Posted by sickmax
i had kevlo led tails in my 4th gen and he used rows...is there anyway to mimick hat sord ot design so u could still keep the same look to the tail light. because if u do the design u guys are talkin about we would have to use the rice clear ones right?
The design I am probably going to use will have to be used on al all read tail OR on a clear/red tail w/ blue batmobile overlay.

In order to do the retrofit you need to crack the tail open anyway, you can probably just tint the acrylic from the inside while you're at it.
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Originally Posted by Metal Maxima
The design I am probably going to use will have to be used on al all read tail OR on a clear/red tail w/ blue batmobile overlay.

In order to do the retrofit you need to crack the tail open anyway, you can probably just tint the acrylic from the inside while you're at it.
If we prefer the 02-03 style, would there be a way to retrofit the tails into them? I personally want the 02-03 style, but would like to modify it internally as well, so could there be a kit or something or is this gonna require the whole tail to be murdered?
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yyea i would want to keep my 01 SE tails. damn really wanted the LED tails to
Old 08-30-2006 | 05:47 AM
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wait, i dont get it. is someone mass producing new tail lights?
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Originally Posted by four
wait, i dont get it. is someone mass producing new tail lights?

Yes. Me. Fortunatley for you, I'm in NJ...
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Originally Posted by zero2sixtyZ
If we prefer the 02-03 style, would there be a way to retrofit the tails into them? I personally want the 02-03 style, but would like to modify it internally as well, so could there be a kit or something or is this gonna require the whole tail to be murdered?
The whole tail has to be dremeled open in order to retrofit the panels into them.
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Originally Posted by Metal Maxima
Yes. Me. Fortunatley for you, I'm in NJ...
awesome!

im going to subscribe to this thread, so that I can know when its ready

how is it going to work though? Are you modding the existing tails, or making new ones all in all.
Old 08-30-2006 | 08:10 AM
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awesome!

im going to subscribe to this thread, so that I can know when its ready

how is it going to work though? Are you modding the existing tails, or making new ones all in all.
I live in jersey and im very interested as well...... Let me no wat tha deal is....
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Is this something I will be able to buy for my car in the future?
Old 08-30-2006 | 11:47 AM
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Alright, fellas...here's the skinny.

I WILL be making LED tails before the year is out. It will likley be 4 pairs, and that's it. The 4 pairs will be of the design type I am going to post tonight, and I will be making one additional set like Dr.Roy has for a total of 5 LED tails.

I am going to be doing all labor, so those intertested will have to come to my place or mail their tails out to me. The price is likley to fall between $300 - $400 depending on how involved the etching and retrofit is, suffice to say it would be cheaper if I had people obligate to all 5 sets.
Old 08-30-2006 | 11:56 AM
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shoot, let me be #1 then.
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subcribing......
Old 08-30-2006 | 02:34 PM
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OHh O metal is going at it again

BTW hows the truck fiberglassing project turn out?
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Eh, ok. First design did not pan out as I wanted it to, that will be a much different story with the new one. I am going to likley be doing this on Friday.

So do you guys like the revamped designs? Worth pursuing?
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Originally Posted by spencediggy
Dan....my second job is Valet Parking....and one of my favorite tailights that i park is the Range Rover 06-07
where the outer led lights blinks
dude you wont believe me.

I have those EXACT LEDS sitting in my garage. They are tested and work, my friend gave tem to me (that works in a land rover dealer) They are BRIGHT, but I cant put them in my 4th gen.

anyone, make me a decent offer and theyre yours.


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