Changing Guages questions on a 2000
#1
Changing Guages questions on a 2000
I recently purchased an AE 2001 cluster. I bought it to remove the guage faces and replace it with those that came on my GXE.
My questions are:
1) I know that each gauge is seperated on the 00/01, however when you remove it, do you need to remove the needle indicator?
2) When installing the gauges, will I need to recalubrate the cluster with the dealership?
3) Are the chrome rings on the AE cluster glued on and can they be removed? I have not opened it yet because I fear of breaking it.
Thanks to everyone who can help me solve this issue.
My questions are:
1) I know that each gauge is seperated on the 00/01, however when you remove it, do you need to remove the needle indicator?
2) When installing the gauges, will I need to recalubrate the cluster with the dealership?
3) Are the chrome rings on the AE cluster glued on and can they be removed? I have not opened it yet because I fear of breaking it.
Thanks to everyone who can help me solve this issue.
#2
all the info to remove
This procedure works on virtually all Nissan meters which has a digital trip/odo. If you have the analog/mechanical trip/odo, don't bother reading.
Background:
Nissan meters w/ the digital trip/odo has a built-in diagnostics function that will automatically position the needles at a fixed location for all 4 gauges (tach, speedo, fuel, temp). This location is useful for needle re-calibration.
Here's what you have to do:
Before removing your needles, you need to mark this 'fixed' location by:
a) Turning key to OFF
b) While holding the trip/odo reset button down, turn the key to IGN position & hold the button down for at least 0.8 seconds. (1-2 seconds is perfectly fine - no need to rush).
c) After that, push the button 3 times in the next few seconds (you'll have about 7 seconds to do this).
You will notice that all segments of the trip/odo will be illuminated.
NOW, when you push and hold the button, the needles will move to a fixed (calibration) mode. You can mark this spot, then safely remove the needles. As long as you're in the diagnostics mode, the needles will move to the set location when you hold the button down & return to zero position when you release the button. You can do this over & over until you are comfortable with your markings.
(To leave the diagnostics, you can simply turn the key back to the OFF position).
Now, you can remove the needles by gently prying them off. or unsrew counter clockwise pulling up with gentle pressure
To reinstall the needles, simply go back in to the diagnostics using the steps outlined above. Move the needle base to the 'fixed' location by holding the button down and setting the needles to the location you marked. Then, just push the needles in gently.
If you had removed the needles before marking this set location, you're basically screwed.
my cluster modified using this method.
This procedure works on virtually all Nissan meters which has a digital trip/odo. If you have the analog/mechanical trip/odo, don't bother reading.
Background:
Nissan meters w/ the digital trip/odo has a built-in diagnostics function that will automatically position the needles at a fixed location for all 4 gauges (tach, speedo, fuel, temp). This location is useful for needle re-calibration.
Here's what you have to do:
Before removing your needles, you need to mark this 'fixed' location by:
a) Turning key to OFF
b) While holding the trip/odo reset button down, turn the key to IGN position & hold the button down for at least 0.8 seconds. (1-2 seconds is perfectly fine - no need to rush).
c) After that, push the button 3 times in the next few seconds (you'll have about 7 seconds to do this).
You will notice that all segments of the trip/odo will be illuminated.
NOW, when you push and hold the button, the needles will move to a fixed (calibration) mode. You can mark this spot, then safely remove the needles. As long as you're in the diagnostics mode, the needles will move to the set location when you hold the button down & return to zero position when you release the button. You can do this over & over until you are comfortable with your markings.
(To leave the diagnostics, you can simply turn the key back to the OFF position).
Now, you can remove the needles by gently prying them off. or unsrew counter clockwise pulling up with gentle pressure
To reinstall the needles, simply go back in to the diagnostics using the steps outlined above. Move the needle base to the 'fixed' location by holding the button down and setting the needles to the location you marked. Then, just push the needles in gently.
If you had removed the needles before marking this set location, you're basically screwed.
my cluster modified using this method.
![](http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/177000-177999/177037_25_full.jpg)
#3
NJMAX2KSE thank you!
Just to make sure I understood. I follow the 3 steps and the cluster will remember the position of the needles. So basically I need to remove the glass from the cluster first so that I can remove the needles while the cluster is still inside the dash. BTW does this also mean that I can put the needles to a set spot like for example 60mph and they will stay that way in memory. And after I am done with the procedure, I can put it back on the 60mph mark and it will indicate as it was before the procedure.
Thanks so much
Just to make sure I understood. I follow the 3 steps and the cluster will remember the position of the needles. So basically I need to remove the glass from the cluster first so that I can remove the needles while the cluster is still inside the dash. BTW does this also mean that I can put the needles to a set spot like for example 60mph and they will stay that way in memory. And after I am done with the procedure, I can put it back on the 60mph mark and it will indicate as it was before the procedure.
Thanks so much
Originally Posted by NJMAX2KSE
This procedure works on virtually all Nissan meters which has a digital trip/odo. If you have the analog/mechanical trip/odo, don't bother reading.
Background:
Nissan meters w/ the digital trip/odo has a built-in diagnostics function that will automatically position the needles at a fixed location for all 4 gauges (tach, speedo, fuel, temp). This location is useful for needle re-calibration.
Here's what you have to do:
Before removing your needles, you need to mark this 'fixed' location by:
a) Turning key to OFF
b) While holding the trip/odo reset button down, turn the key to IGN position & hold the button down for at least 0.8 seconds. (1-2 seconds is perfectly fine - no need to rush).
c) After that, push the button 3 times in the next few seconds (you'll have about 7 seconds to do this).
You will notice that all segments of the trip/odo will be illuminated.
NOW, when you push and hold the button, the needles will move to a fixed (calibration) mode. You can mark this spot, then safely remove the needles. As long as you're in the diagnostics mode, the needles will move to the set location when you hold the button down & return to zero position when you release the button. You can do this over & over until you are comfortable with your markings.
(To leave the diagnostics, you can simply turn the key back to the OFF position).
Now, you can remove the needles by gently prying them off. or unsrew counter clockwise pulling up with gentle pressure
To reinstall the needles, simply go back in to the diagnostics using the steps outlined above. Move the needle base to the 'fixed' location by holding the button down and setting the needles to the location you marked. Then, just push the needles in gently.
If you had removed the needles before marking this set location, you're basically screwed.
my cluster modified using this method.
![](http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/177000-177999/177037_25_full.jpg)
Background:
Nissan meters w/ the digital trip/odo has a built-in diagnostics function that will automatically position the needles at a fixed location for all 4 gauges (tach, speedo, fuel, temp). This location is useful for needle re-calibration.
Here's what you have to do:
Before removing your needles, you need to mark this 'fixed' location by:
a) Turning key to OFF
b) While holding the trip/odo reset button down, turn the key to IGN position & hold the button down for at least 0.8 seconds. (1-2 seconds is perfectly fine - no need to rush).
c) After that, push the button 3 times in the next few seconds (you'll have about 7 seconds to do this).
You will notice that all segments of the trip/odo will be illuminated.
NOW, when you push and hold the button, the needles will move to a fixed (calibration) mode. You can mark this spot, then safely remove the needles. As long as you're in the diagnostics mode, the needles will move to the set location when you hold the button down & return to zero position when you release the button. You can do this over & over until you are comfortable with your markings.
(To leave the diagnostics, you can simply turn the key back to the OFF position).
Now, you can remove the needles by gently prying them off. or unsrew counter clockwise pulling up with gentle pressure
To reinstall the needles, simply go back in to the diagnostics using the steps outlined above. Move the needle base to the 'fixed' location by holding the button down and setting the needles to the location you marked. Then, just push the needles in gently.
If you had removed the needles before marking this set location, you're basically screwed.
my cluster modified using this method.
![](http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/177000-177999/177037_25_full.jpg)
#4
Yes, the '00 guages and earlier '01 models have all individual guage faces. It's not like the late '01's and '02-'03 where the guages are all one face where the needles have to be removed. As far as swapping the '00 guages with individual guages, it's a direct swap. You don't have to remove the needles. They are just srewed in with a few screws. This answers your question #1. As far as question #2, no. The circuit board on the cluster stores the actual mileage. The guage only reads this mileage. As far as removing the needles, I think NJMAX2KSE explained it wonderfully.
#8
I thought that under my understanding that the miles didn't matter on the cluster cause the ECU stores the miles. That's why if you unplug you cluster and plug it back in the A and B miles are gone but not your actual miles to prevent fraud. Before pulling apart the cluster I would first plug the cluster in. I believe sombody did this a long time ago when I first joined the org back in 2000.
#10
Originally Posted by MyownNismo
I thought that under my understanding that the miles didn't matter on the cluster cause the ECU stores the miles. That's why if you unplug you cluster and plug it back in the A and B miles are gone but not your actual miles to prevent fraud. Before pulling apart the cluster I would first plug the cluster in. I believe sombody did this a long time ago when I first joined the org back in 2000.
#14
Yes, but the face is still attached by the needles. I had to remove the needle to remove it on one of the faces so far. How do people remove them without taking off the needles? I think its impossible!
#15
Originally Posted by Gennady7
Yes, but the face is still attached by the needles. I had to remove the needle to remove it on one of the faces so far. How do people remove them without taking off the needles? I think its impossible!
#17
to avoid removing the needles on all of the indicators, I was wondering if the SE and GXE temperature guage and gasoline gauge were complatable if I would just move them.
What I mean is, unscrewing the guage from the entire SE cluster and putting it in the GXE cluster. In particular the gasoline and the temperature guages. Has anyone ever tried this?
Thanks
What I mean is, unscrewing the guage from the entire SE cluster and putting it in the GXE cluster. In particular the gasoline and the temperature guages. Has anyone ever tried this?
Thanks
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