it has been stated about 20 times...CHANGE THE VALVE COVERS

 

but wat im trying to say it, how u know THATS the problem, just like with u, u needed to change ur O rings, is there a way to tell which one it is...?

 

i never said i needed to change my o-rings. my PISTONS RINGS are bad.

how do i know you need to change the valve cover? because i said so
the valve covers include the "rings" you are talking about

 

LOL, o ok, and how would I be able to tell if my piston rings were bad? im definitely gonna change the valve covers and gaskets, but r u SURE its not the O rings because this dude was pretty positive that was the problem.

 

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=486215

 

He "know's" because not only is he on his second Maxima (experience) and has delt with a similar problem but Sooner doesn't post a reply (to a question) in a thread unless he know's what he's talking about.

Or....don't take his (or anyone elses who posted) advice, but going back and forth is just pointless.

 

Well what was the point of that link, i read and read and dont get what your trying to tell me? also are valve covers and o rings or whatever under warranty cuz im still under my certified pre owned warranty.

 

you asked how to determine if the rings are bad...that thread shows everything i had to go through...it isnt easy.

every aftermarket warranty is different...ask them.

 

its not aftermarker i got it from nissan, its the extended certified pre owned warranty, i guess i should take my car to the dealership. should i just tell them replace the valve covers or just tell them its leaking oil?

 

dmpesso..........if your car is not using an appreciable amount of oil and the only issue is oil in the spark plug tubes noticed during the spark plug change, then it's because of known valve cover seal leaks at the spark plug tubes. As explained above, on your Gen. 5.5 engine, you have to replace the valve cover ASSEMBLY to fix the leaking spark plug tube seal problem because Nissan does not have replacement seals for the Gen. 5.5 valve cover. When your mechanic removed the spark plug(s) from the cylinder(s) that had some oil in the associated spark plug tube, obviously the oil runs down the threads and onto the business end of the plug and possibly drips into the cylinder. ALL your mechanic was alluding to was that the oil that dripped into the cylinder during his changing the plugs might burn during the first start and be seen by you as blue smoke. That's all. It's not burning oil during normal operation. The spark plug looks wet, but it has NOTHING to do with chronic oil burning such as in soonerfan's case. Small amounts of oil in the spark plug tubes is not uncommon. If it concerns you, or your mechanic says that there was quite a bit of oil there, then I believe the Gen. 6 valve cover is used by the Gen. 5.5 guys as the replacement.......for cost and durability. And maybe you're covered by your warranty.

 

aftermarket...extended...whatever
how do we know if its covered...ask them

 

So your saying my problem is not the same? because the only problem with mine is there was oil in the holes where the spark plugs go before i changed them.. and those cylinders, only 3 of them had oil and looked very dark, the other 3 looked fine... and BTW is was only the rear 3 plug holes that had oil in them.. any reason as to why? and does this mean its just a valve cover and not this whole problem soonerfan seems to have?

 

just replace the rear valve cover since thats obviously the one with the problem

 

why is this so hard to consume into your brain god he told you to get the valve cover replaced what part of that dont you understand.

 

If the engine is not using any oil to speak of and the only issue is the oil in the spark plug tubes, just replace the associated valve cover. Variation in the look of removed spark plugs can be nothing but a red herring. When and if you replace the cover(s) make sure that the spark plug tubes are tight in the head.

 

and is this a bandaid fix and i will eventually needa replace them again or this perma fixes this problem?

 

you might have to say it a couple of more times.

 

.................
more info in the 10 page long thread i posted so you can see the process of determining if you have a consumption problem and how to determine the cause

 

<-- He's back....

And one for you good sir....

 

i read the ENTIRE thread.. how did u know u were losing oil like that? i dont think i am losing oil, im pretty sure my dude just said there was oil in the area where the rear plugs go... so getting the valve covers will bandaid it so ima need to do it again in the future or will this permanently fix it?

 

you arent losing oil so my thread is pointless to you...it was posted to let you know that.

REPLACE THE REAR VALVE COVER...it will fix the problem that YOU HAVE

 

yea take the plugs out clean up whats in there then install the new plugs and get new o-rings and put the new valve cover on.

 

this thread should have never started...it shouldnt have reached 3 pages...your question was answered in the first page

 

I just put in new plugs, am i gonna need ANOTHER set of new ones?

 

no

please stop posting and go get a rear valve cover and replace it

 

good heavens do people ever listen?

 

no they dont thats why there Noob's

 

dmpesso.........NO, don't worry about the spark plugs. You gotta understand this. When the engine is running the oil that may seep into the spark plug tubes in NOT, I repeat, NOT getting into the cylinders. The "O" ring seal that is talked about is integral with the valve cover assembly on your Gen. 5.5., and that's what keeps the oil and oil vapors (breather) out of the spark plug tubes. Any oil in the spark plug tube is NOT getting into the cylinder when you drive the car. You are not BURNING the oil that gets into the spark plug tubes. Depending on how much the cover "O" ring is "leaking" the oil gradually fills up the tube and eventually may get high enough in the tube to get to the coil connector on the spark plug and causing ignition problems with that coil/plug. Replacing the valve cover should be the "permanent fix". It's not a band-aid fix at all.

 

thank u very much for ur help and i appreciate ur tolerance for my noobness but im just trying to completely understand... so that means if i get the new valve covers, where does all the oil go that was in the spark plug chamber? the oil that was in there before seeped into the cylinder and im guessing was burned out when i changed the plugs.. im going to nissan under warranty im pretty sure they wont waste their time cleaning out the oil in the plugs, would i be fine with just replacing the valve cover? what happens to all the oil already in there then?

 

The coils will be removed anyway and they should soak up any oil in the tubes with paper towels or suction it out. Probably easier if they just pull the plugs. In reality even if they leave any residual, small amount of oil in there, it ain't going to hurt anything. It just sits there.

 

holy f'ing lord how is this thread still going? The valve covers include the spark plug seals! You need to buy the $50 part and your problem will be solved! How do we know this??? It's happened to almost all of us! Take our word for it and oil is not in the combustion chamber! It's just sealed on top of the spark plugs.

 

THIS IS WHAT IM SAYING, im bringing it in under WARRANTY, i can not tell them what to do.. ALL IM ASKING IS... DO I HAVE TO CLEAN OUT THE OIL THATS ALREADY IN THE CHAMBER or is it fine if they just replace the valve cover? and BTW how will I even know they fixed the problem? i guess the only way is to take off the whole intake manifold rite?

 

and i dont think u get what im saying, I TOOK OUT THE PLUGS AND PUT IN NEW ONES, meaning the oil that WAS on top, went SOMEWHERE, WHERE DID IT GO? my friend told me it went into the cylinder and was burned out the exaust

 

No, you don't have to deal with anything. Just take it to the dealer and don't worry about if it fixes the problem. It's a damn simple thing. Yes, the oil that was in the spark plug tube probably drippled into the cylinder and got burned, just as your mechanic explained to you. Doesn't hurt a thing.

 

Then why does it matter now?? It probably lowered the octane rating for a couple combustion cycles and now it's out, so again, what does it matter? Fix the VC and oil won't get in there again. Simple as that.


God I'm starting to see why sooner hates noobs so much.

 

everyone,
please stop posting. he has gotten his answer a few times from several us trying to help. he will stop asking if we stop responding.

 

I got my answers. thanks guys, im gonna give them the car and let them deal and tell them to replace the valve covers. Thanks

 

fixed

 

Oh look, post #11! It really should have been the end of the thread!

http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...3&postcount=11

 

obey me
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...9&postcount=76