Not Another Front end Noise Thread
#1
Not Another Front end Noise Thread
I have been fighting this front end noise with my Maxima 03 SE 65K since I picked it up back in October.
I get thumping sound (tap tap) when going over bumps at low speeds only (less than 35MPH). Does not matter turning or not, I get the sound.
I have read all the threads many many times over this with fixes ranging from nothing to just about everything on the Front suspension.
What I have done so far:
1. Replaced all 4 struts, bearings, and mounts with Deale parts (TK blues struts) - no change in noise
2. Replaced the sway bar end links with dealer parts - no change in noise
3. Changed tires - Yokohama 520s - no change in noise
4. Tightened up the hood latch - no change in noise
5. The dealer checked the wheel bearings and eliminated that to be the problem , they said front tires were bad - I changed them and the problem is still there - no change in noise
Yesterday I took the wheels off again in serch for the fix and took some photographs for the links and the struts, can you suggest any trail there?
I get thumping sound (tap tap) when going over bumps at low speeds only (less than 35MPH). Does not matter turning or not, I get the sound.
I have read all the threads many many times over this with fixes ranging from nothing to just about everything on the Front suspension.
What I have done so far:
1. Replaced all 4 struts, bearings, and mounts with Deale parts (TK blues struts) - no change in noise
2. Replaced the sway bar end links with dealer parts - no change in noise
3. Changed tires - Yokohama 520s - no change in noise
4. Tightened up the hood latch - no change in noise
5. The dealer checked the wheel bearings and eliminated that to be the problem , they said front tires were bad - I changed them and the problem is still there - no change in noise
Yesterday I took the wheels off again in serch for the fix and took some photographs for the links and the struts, can you suggest any trail there?
#7
#2. The end links look aligned & OK to you?
THIS IS THE DRIVER SIDE LINK
THIS IS THE PASSENGER SIDE LINK (MORE NOISE ON THIS SIDE)
Question on the end links - Am I supposed to torque the end links with fron suspension loaded? When I did this the car was on jack stands supported on the frame.
THIS IS THE DRIVER SIDE LINK
THIS IS THE PASSENGER SIDE LINK (MORE NOISE ON THIS SIDE)
Question on the end links - Am I supposed to torque the end links with fron suspension loaded? When I did this the car was on jack stands supported on the frame.
#11
Manual bouncing never produced any sound, not before and not now.
How do I check for the LCA bushings? Thx
How do I check for the LCA bushings? Thx
Originally Posted by x91max
first try this. bounce the front of ur car when its parked. if you hear it it probably is that gap which is cake to fix. anyways id also check the control arm bushings. they go bad and cause a huge racket.
#13
What are we looking at? few bolts? I guess I will need a breaker bar for this?
Thanks
Thanks
Originally Posted by x91max
lift the car off the ground take the tire off. unbolt everthing tying to the control arm so that its just the arm bolted on the hinge to the car. and see if you can generate the noise slamming it around.
#15
i am going through the exact same thing. - am going to be replacing my struts with tokico and new strut mounts. i am doing the sway bar links and the inner tie rod. I hope this solves it. let me know what the conclusion is. how is the ride with tokico with stock springs.
#16
Right now after the things I have changed - if I go over a harsh bump (little one but steep in incline) it seems as if my front bumber will fall to the ground.
I can visually see the hood vibrate a little as well when it goes over the bumps at lower speeds - now this can be the light reflecting from the hood bending when the car goes over/down the bump
The tokico blues are a tad tighter than the OEM this SE had - but then it could be that OEMs were on the way out and the newer ones are too new...
I can visually see the hood vibrate a little as well when it goes over the bumps at lower speeds - now this can be the light reflecting from the hood bending when the car goes over/down the bump
The tokico blues are a tad tighter than the OEM this SE had - but then it could be that OEMs were on the way out and the newer ones are too new...
#17
mine happens over sharp bumps like the little ones that you don't see. I noticed that those make the noise but the big ones don't just really feel it inside the car. I had three opinions and all said the same thing about the parts needing replacement. I am going with the tokico's but really don't want a harsh ride. I just want it to ride smooth.
Quick question I wanted to know if you did the work yourself or had a shop do the work and if so how much did it cost to get the struts in. thanks I know its off topic but I am curious. thanks
Quick question I wanted to know if you did the work yourself or had a shop do the work and if so how much did it cost to get the struts in. thanks I know its off topic but I am curious. thanks
#18
TK blues shipped were like $299 from eBay (JDM). A mechanic and myself helping him put it in for me for $200 all corners - $120 for the 2 fronts and $80 for the rears.
What is the consensus opinon you got from 3 different mechanics on the fix?
What is the consensus opinon you got from 3 different mechanics on the fix?
Originally Posted by LikeAboss
mine happens over sharp bumps like the little ones that you don't see. I noticed that those make the noise but the big ones don't just really feel it inside the car. I had three opinions and all said the same thing about the parts needing replacement. I am going with the tokico's but really don't want a harsh ride. I just want it to ride smooth.
Quick question I wanted to know if you did the work yourself or had a shop do the work and if so how much did it cost to get the struts in. thanks I know its off topic but I am curious. thanks
Quick question I wanted to know if you did the work yourself or had a shop do the work and if so how much did it cost to get the struts in. thanks I know its off topic but I am curious. thanks
#22
Not sure if this will help. BUT, I had a similar issue with my 01. It turned out to be that the two TOP FRONT bolts that hold the radiator were loose. So the radiator had extra play. Over bumps I would here the rattle.
Prob not the same for you, but just a heads up.
Prob not the same for you, but just a heads up.
#23
Originally Posted by LikeAboss
I was talking about the sway bar links or stabilizer links. I don't know if that is the same as endlinks.
Yeah, the sway bar end links. I don't think they make bumps feel worse.
#24
You've changed everything but the tie rod ends it seems. I had the same problem, which they replaced the tie rod ends and that was the problem. Drive your car around, slowly, and whip the steering wheel back and forth. If it knocks when you do that, then that's the problem. It disappears when you are driving fast due to the pressure the friction on the tire in motion puts on them (I hope that made sense, it does in my head anyhow).
#25
Front End Noise
q45owner,
I've got an '02 I35 that exhibits the same problem, with only 64k on it. Front passenger side only however, clunk or knocking sound when going over smaller but sharp bumps. Large bumps doesn't cause it, but speed bumps do however.
I've had the dealer look it over twice, and they say there's no problem. Sway bar end links are fine, strut bearings are fine, control arm bushings are fine, struts look fine, everything is tight and they can't find a problem.
I spoke to the mechanic directly who said he's worked on Nissan's for 23yrs, and he's seen this issue quite a few times before. He said he's tried on several occasions to change all kinds of parts, and at times he's been able to fix the problem, only to have the noise return again a few weeks later. He feels it's an inherent design problem with the car, and some of them simply have this problem, and some don't.
Although I believe this mechanic, I'm going to another dealer for a second opinion. However, I expect the same result, no problems found.
Joe.
I've got an '02 I35 that exhibits the same problem, with only 64k on it. Front passenger side only however, clunk or knocking sound when going over smaller but sharp bumps. Large bumps doesn't cause it, but speed bumps do however.
I've had the dealer look it over twice, and they say there's no problem. Sway bar end links are fine, strut bearings are fine, control arm bushings are fine, struts look fine, everything is tight and they can't find a problem.
I spoke to the mechanic directly who said he's worked on Nissan's for 23yrs, and he's seen this issue quite a few times before. He said he's tried on several occasions to change all kinds of parts, and at times he's been able to fix the problem, only to have the noise return again a few weeks later. He feels it's an inherent design problem with the car, and some of them simply have this problem, and some don't.
Although I believe this mechanic, I'm going to another dealer for a second opinion. However, I expect the same result, no problems found.
Joe.
#27
Hit the wheel with a mallet, it Will mimic the noise ONLY when weight is on the tire, I had mine on the lift and hit it with a mallet, i can hear it but not as much as with the weight on it, AND when i do it, It seems to come from the front motor mount area in the middle, or that brace there, Thats what i found out so far.
#28
Inner or Outer? I tried jiggling/wiggling the tie rods and they seem snug...were yous lose when you replaced 'em?
Thanks
Thanks
Originally Posted by armor_dan
You've changed everything but the tie rod ends it seems. I had the same problem, which they replaced the tie rod ends and that was the problem. Drive your car around, slowly, and whip the steering wheel back and forth. If it knocks when you do that, then that's the problem. It disappears when you are driving fast due to the pressure the friction on the tire in motion puts on them (I hope that made sense, it does in my head anyhow).
#30
Brought my 03 GLE to the dealer today and had the front noise fixed. THey replaced the passenger side link. The mecanic said that there was a little play in it. Anyways went to work and back with the car afterwards and the noise is no longer there, hopefully it stays that way.
#31
man i replaced my links, strut plats, new rotors/pads/ and its still there.
I took the sway bar links completely Off the car and the noise is still there also
this is a unsolved mystery.
I took the sway bar links completely Off the car and the noise is still there also
this is a unsolved mystery.
#38
I had the same slight rattle coming from suspension. I also changed the whole set up and it was still there. Then a buddy of mine showed me how his hood rattles a little. and i saw that mine does the same thing. So i put some electrical tape round the hood lock and the rattle at low speeds went away. Then i check my brothers 2002 maxima and he had the same problem. just check your hood while it is locked and see if it slightly moves up and down. THAT DROVE ME NUTS. Just like you i changed everything!!!