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Old Jul 12, 2001 | 04:40 PM
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I've read all the posts about how the name brand
exhausts are the same thing as the generic exhaust
and how I should get the weld on type just to save
some money, so I don't want to hear anymore of that
again in this thread.

1. I'm kind of a conservative dude so if I decide the
bolt on exhaust (whichever I decide to buy) is a bit
too loud for my taste, I wanna be able to just unbolt
it and swap it with the stock exhaust, not dealing
with any welds.

2. I saw a picture of the HKS Sport stainless exhaust
on eatricezone.com. He had it listed there for $429.
I am guessing this isn't a full catback system, just
exhaust, which would mean I'll need extra pipes,
correct? But then again, I really heard alot of great
things about the Greddy Evolution catback system.
When all said and done, both should probably cost about
the same, right? I think in my opinion, I might like
the dual tip look a bit better, but not sure of which
way to go as far as the sound and HP gain factor.
So in the end, I guess I'm looking for a shove in the
right direction, maybe some wavs or pics or even some
links that will give me better pricing...

p.s. I also want a y pipe, will that bring the decibal
level much higher along with the hp?

THANK YOU
Old Jul 12, 2001 | 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by MAXIN24-7
I've read all the posts about how the name brand
exhausts are the same thing as the generic exhaust
and how I should get the weld on type just to save
some money, so I don't want to hear anymore of that
again in this thread.

1. I'm kind of a conservative dude so if I decide the
bolt on exhaust (whichever I decide to buy) is a bit
too loud for my taste, I wanna be able to just unbolt
it and swap it with the stock exhaust, not dealing
with any welds.

2. I saw a picture of the HKS Sport stainless exhaust
on eatricezone.com. He had it listed there for $429.
I am guessing this isn't a full catback system, just
exhaust, which would mean I'll need extra pipes,
correct? But then again, I really heard alot of great
things about the Greddy Evolution catback system.
When all said and done, both should probably cost about
the same, right? I think in my opinion, I might like
the dual tip look a bit better, but not sure of which
way to go as far as the sound and HP gain factor.
So in the end, I guess I'm looking for a shove in the
right direction, maybe some wavs or pics or even some
links that will give me better pricing...

p.s. I also want a y pipe, will that bring the decibal
level much higher along with the hp?

THANK YOU
1)im not sure about the first one, i never owned an exhaust.

2)you wont need pipes if you are just doing the exhaust. for a catback, you will need your own custom pipes. I prefer a custom one over a name brand one. (Greddy Catback).

3)if you want a y-pipe, go for cattmans. They dont wear out like stillens. but from what i heard, i think stillen now has that metal.. i forget which type, but it resist from rusting. it is the most proven exhaust gain so far.
Old Jul 12, 2001 | 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by AznWontonboy


1)im not sure about the first one, i never owned an exhaust.

2)you wont need pipes if you are just doing the exhaust. for a catback, you will need your own custom pipes. I prefer a custom one over a name brand one. (Greddy Catback).

3)if you want a y-pipe, go for cattmans. They dont wear out like stillens. but from what i heard, i think stillen now has that metal.. i forget which type, but it resist from rusting. it is the most proven exhaust gain so far.
As far as the y pipe goes, will the cattman pass NY
state emissions tests? I remember reading in the
Stillen brochure that one of their pipes with the flex
area was not street legal. If I do get exhaust I do
want to add custom pipes I think. What size would I
want to get?
Old Jul 12, 2001 | 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by AznWontonboy


1)im not sure about the first one, i never owned an exhaust.

2)you wont need pipes if you are just doing the exhaust. for a catback, you will need your own custom pipes. I prefer a custom one over a name brand one. (Greddy Catback).

3)if you want a y-pipe, go for cattmans. They dont wear out like stillens. but from what i heard, i think stillen now has that metal.. i forget which type, but it resist from rusting. it is the most proven exhaust gain so far.
That's what I heard, Stillen has SS Y-pipe for maximas now??

Anyone?
Old Jul 13, 2001 | 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by MaxTuner


That's what I heard, Stillen has SS Y-pipe for maximas now??

Anyone?

no, the stillen ones are ceramic coated. not SS.

the car should pass smog with Y-pipe as long as the car's running hot.(hence, no cold starts for the smog check, but hey, you have to drive to get ur smog checks done...right?)
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 10:24 PM
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So stillin Y not catman?

But, I have heard great things about the catman Y pipe?
Being from NY I was told I would be better off with a
SS pipe.
Isnt that true?

But I am still unsure of what ehaust to get.
Anyone eles have an opinion worth posting..
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by MAXIN24-7


As far as the y pipe goes, will the cattman pass NY
state emissions tests? I remember reading in the
Stillen brochure that one of their pipes with the flex
area was not street legal. If I do get exhaust I do
want to add custom pipes I think. What size would I
want to get?
if you go somewhere random to get your smog check you should be fine, runnin hot like Irvine said. Just dont take it to the dealer.. they know what they are looking for.
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by MAXIN24-7
I also want a y pipe, will that bring the decibal
level much higher along with the hp?
In a word, yes! For more info, check out the following thread:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=52390

I should also mention that the difference between a weld-on catback system and a bolt-on system isn't just about the money you save (although that's significant). It's also about your ability to control the number of variables that are being changed. A bolt-on catback system will normally affect all three noise-producing variables simultaneously (pipe diameter, resonator, muffler design). With a Y-pipe, you may want to change those variables independently. The ONLY way to do that is to roll your own catback system.
Old Jul 15, 2001 | 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by y2kse

In a word, yes! For more info, check out the following thread:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=52390

I should also mention that the difference between a weld-on catback system and a bolt-on system isn't just about the money you save (although that's significant). It's also about your ability to control the number of variables that are being changed. A bolt-on catback system will normally affect all three noise-producing variables simultaneously (pipe diameter, resonator, muffler design). With a Y-pipe, you may want to change those variables independently. The ONLY way to do that is to roll your own catback system.
I was mostly looking into exhaust for the look
and the deep, mean yet not to loud sound. Then I was
told that the Y pipe would give me a much more noticeable
HP gain and a bit of a deeper sound. Are you saying that
if I did both I might be unhappy. It might get too loud?

I saw a HKS that I liked. Check the link
and tell me what you think. http://www.eatricezone.com/exhaust01.html
It looked great on the Gr8ride.com's
2000 Project Maxima.
Has anyone heard anything about it?
If it does not get a good responce on the org I might
go with the Greddy EVO catback.
Old Jul 25, 2001 | 03:05 PM
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HELP!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

Last call
Old Jul 25, 2001 | 04:00 PM
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Re: HELP!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by MAXIN24-7
Last call
Hey.....its me again!! LINY reppin! Bottom line is, theres not a catback out there yet for our cars that is quiet. The Y-pipe is perfect though (cattman's) it gives your car that cool growl, not the bees in a can sound! GReddy and HKS are loud man. If you buy one of those, you'll end up probably doing custom work on the resonator to make it quieter.
Old Jul 25, 2001 | 04:49 PM
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Are you saying that if I did both I might be unhappy. It might get too loud?
In a word, yes.
Old Jul 25, 2001 | 04:56 PM
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Re: Re: HELP!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Deac


Hey.....its me again!! LINY reppin! Bottom line is, theres not a catback out there yet for our cars that is quiet. The Y-pipe is perfect though (cattman's) it gives your car that cool growl, not the bees in a can sound! GReddy and HKS are loud man. If you buy one of those, you'll end up probably doing custom work on the resonator to make it quieter.
Roger that. You've got to ask yourself a question, MAXIN24-7. Does it make sense to pay megabucks for an entire exhaust system you may need to modify (i.e., spend even more money on) when you can have a custom exhaust built from scratch, modify one thing at a time, get exactly the type and amount of sound you're looking for, and save a humongous amount of money in the process?

Old Jul 27, 2001 | 11:28 PM
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2. I saw a picture of the HKS Sport stainless exhaust
on eatricezone.com. He had it listed there for $429.
I am guessing this isn't a full catback system, just
exhaust, which would mean I'll need extra pipes,
correct? ..................
p.s. I also want a y pipe, will that bring the decibal
level much higher along with the hp?

THANK YOU [/B]
A 5th gen member dynoed with and w/out the stock catback system, guess what the hp difference was...~2hp!! Personally, I wouldn't spend $429 for a full cat-back sytem, sure, you may have the sound and that chrome tip. Spend the dough on the y-pipe and you'll get that nice growl at about 2k+ rpms and at idle, you can barely hear it.
Not only that, the y-pipe + oscai was good for about 20hp. My .02
Old Jul 28, 2001 | 12:56 AM
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Re: Re: Re: HELP!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by y2kse

Roger that. You've got to ask yourself a question, MAXIN24-7. Does it make sense to pay megabucks for an entire exhaust system you may need to modify (i.e., spend even more money on) when you can have a custom exhaust built from scratch, modify one thing at a time, get exactly the type and amount of sound you're looking for, and save a humongous amount of money in the process?

here we go again...


A 5th gen member dynoed with and w/out the stock catback system, guess what the hp difference was...~2hp!! Personally, I wouldn't spend $429 for a full cat-back sytem, sure, you may have the sound and that chrome tip. Spend the dough on the y-pipe and you'll get that nice growl at about 2k+ rpms and at idle, you can barely hear it.
Not only that, the y-pipe + oscai was good for about 20hp. My .02
if he just took out the stock exhaust and run the dyno without any exhaust at all, due to loss of backpressure, he will not gain much hp...well, unless he's car's pressurized..
Old Jul 28, 2001 | 07:39 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: HELP!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by irvine78


here we go again...
You're absolutely right, Hoon. I've just got to stop making sense.
Old Jul 28, 2001 | 08:57 AM
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Remus

I'm in to deep nice sound, but picky about the looks too, so i wasn't gonna saddle for single tip. I wanted dual big nice chrome tips, so i got REMUS. Looks, quality, sound - 100%. They're hard to find cheap, but i did. $300 from Canada, and $100 installation. Couldn't ask for anything better. I also have no resonator, and it's still not too loud.
just figured i'll share how happy i am.
Old Jul 28, 2001 | 07:22 PM
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An answer about HKS exhaust

I sent an email to eautoworks about the HKS
sports exhaust, my question was.....


Could you email me a picture of the HKS
SPORT EXHAUST (stainless cat back) for
the 2000 Maxima.

I have been looking to buy a HKS SPORT
EXHAUST but I was unaware that it was
a full cat back system?

Are you running any specials on the system any
time soon? If so what would it cost out of my
pocket after the tax and shipping to New York?
Does it come with all the needed material for
the install?

His reply was......


Hi, the HKS Sport Exhaust for the 2000 Maxima
is a cat back system. The cost is $439.95, shipping
is $61, and you don;t need sale tax in NY. The
system come with hardware that you wil need.

thank you
www.eautoworks.com

Do you think that he added his own b pipe to the HKS
exhaust to make a complete catback package, or is it
possible that it comes from HKS this way? I changed my
mind and was going to get a Greddy Evolution due to
the fact that the HKS wasn't a catback. Now hearing this
I'm really not sure what to do, which is really annoying.

I'm planning on buying it on Monday so this is probably
going to be it for stupid questions.

Thanks everybody.
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