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Old Jul 17, 2001 | 07:15 AM
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I got my front rotors replaced in Sept. 2001 cause the steering wheel was shimmy while braking at about 65-70m/h. Took 3 visits to convince the dealer to fix it. After that everything was normal.
Now it's back again!!!
Does anybody know what is going on here? Do the rotors have to be replaced once a year? sounds weird....right?
Any suggestions? Anybody knows what's causing rotors to get warped that often?

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Old Jul 17, 2001 | 07:22 AM
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Just took my car in yesterday for an oil change and warped rotors (2nd time). I think its happened to many people. I believe the stock rotors are made from tinfoil.
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 07:30 AM
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Rotors Covered by Warranty?

Are the rotors covered under warranty? I would imagine that the dealers gripe about replacing them - right?
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 07:37 AM
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Re: Rotors Covered by Warranty?

it's still under a warranty and it will be for another year and a half (Thanks God). I had so much troubles to make them do it at first time, so second will be I'm sure no less.
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 07:42 AM
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Re: Rotors Covered by Warranty?

Originally posted by gitsum
Are the rotors covered under warranty? I would imagine that the dealers gripe about replacing them - right?
They are covered on the 3/36 warranty, check the TSB sticky post.
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 08:00 AM
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it doesn't surprise me that the rotors are going to warp again.... I doubt resurfacing fixes them completely.
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 08:05 AM
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They were not resurfaced, they were replaced already
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 08:06 AM
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Originally posted by valkat
They were not resurfaced, they were replaced already
then, you should definitely take it back in...
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 10:17 AM
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I had mine replaced at 12,000 miles. I need them them resurfaced or replaced again. Mine seem to last 11,000 miles between warping. Something is wrong with this design.
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 11:04 AM
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Looks like it's heat what warps rotors...I can not think about anything else. Mine become bluish (they look burned) very often after intensive braking. May be a bad brake pads...no clue
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 11:05 AM
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Are any of you running an '01 Max

or does this seem to be an earlier release issue?
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 11:07 AM
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SUCKY rotors

Resurfaced mine at 25K, replaced at 35K, resurfaced again at 45K. Will have to replace again here shortly. I wouldn't suggest using Nissan rotors because THEY SUCK!!! I am looking for an aftermarket as we speak. If anyone knows of an affordable replacement I would love to hear about it.
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 11:07 AM
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Re: Are any of you running an '01 Max

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Old Jul 17, 2001 | 11:29 AM
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Curious...those of you with a 01 maxes - have you seen (felt) any sign of warped rotors?? I have almost 10,000 miles on my car (had it about 9 months) and (fingers crossed) have not had any sign of warping.
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 12:20 PM
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I am taking them in for the first time @ 42000KM (26000 miles). (I am lazy) Once I get it back I will be so hard on the brakes it won't be funny.

Get them to turn them until they are too thin and out of spec then they have no choice but to change them. (and they will warp again in 12000 miles)
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 12:26 PM
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Well I had an 89 SE for 11 years and 100,000 miles on the same rotors, never turned, pads replaced once.

I am easy on the brakes and I quess it pays. My current 2k
SE has only 9,000 miles and no sign of any brake problems.

Why do I get the feeling the brake problems are related to hard and often braking. You racers should look into carbon
rotors, like on F1 cars. Won't warp, but would cost around
$1,000 a piece I imagine.
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 04:12 PM
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2001 SE

I have 12,400 miles on mine, and they need to be replaced.
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 08:16 PM
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The 5th gen seems to be the only one with a TSB on warped rotors. I'm usually not that hard on my brakes. I don't recall this happening on any of my previous cars. American at that. It's poor design.

Originally posted by mike-777
Well I had an 89 SE for 11 years and 100,000 miles on the same rotors, never turned, pads replaced once.

I am easy on the brakes and I quess it pays. My current 2k
SE has only 9,000 miles and no sign of any brake problems.

Why do I get the feeling the brake problems are related to hard and often braking. You racers should look into carbon
rotors, like on F1 cars. Won't warp, but would cost around
$1,000 a piece I imagine.
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 09:03 PM
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Correct mr if Im wrong, but in the information for the 2002 maxima the brakes are listed as improved and larger. Why wont these work with other 5th gen maximas?
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 10:07 PM
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While we're on the subject...

What's the benefit of so-called 'slotted' or 'cross-drilled' rotors? What advantage(s) will they give over standard vented rotors?

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Old Jul 17, 2001 | 10:23 PM
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actually...

Its not just heat, but rather over torqued lugnuts causing most of the problems. Perhaps even the suggested 90 ft lbs is too much. I was talking to a owner of a tire shop, they have had many a problem with TL's too. He said the TL was worse than the max.
Old Jul 18, 2001 | 07:59 AM
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Re: actually...

Tim

I have mine torqued to around 70 ft lbs and I still get warpage. Mine's probably due to heat.

Originally posted by TimW
Its not just heat, but rather over torqued lugnuts causing most of the problems. Perhaps even the suggested 90 ft lbs is too much. I was talking to a owner of a tire shop, they have had many a problem with TL's too. He said the TL was worse than the max.
Old Jul 18, 2001 | 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by bert
I am taking them in for the first time @ 42000KM (26000 miles). (I am lazy) Once I get it back I will be so hard on the brakes it won't be funny.

Get them to turn them until they are too thin and out of spec then they have no choice but to change them. (and they will warp again in 12000 miles)
Hi,
This is what my mechanic told me...I have just brought my 2k se auto in for the brakes again. 1 month ago they did the tsb for my cars brakes. The mechanics that control the calipers were replaced and the rotors were ground down on the car, new pads were installed. I still feel the shimmy so I went back now they are replacing the rotors and doing the front strut tsb. I asked about putting a beefer rotor he said that the rotors are fine its the brake caliper that was messed up so it should be ok.
We will see,
Fast Walker
Old Jul 18, 2001 | 01:28 PM
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Cross drilled rotors

Cross-drilled or slotted rotors are less likely to over heat and thus get worped.
i had them on my old car even with the regular pads,and they were great. never had that hot, soft brake feel.
can't wait to put them on the max.
Old Jul 20, 2001 | 02:10 PM
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Solution

For those who's interested:
This morning I brought my car to the service. After a test drive service manager told me that they are about to --- resurface the rotors and replace the brake pads! The whole deal was about the brake pads, he said. They are "too hard", Nissan's known problem now. They, Nissan, came up with a new brake pads, so....service manager said: IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
On Tuesday they will do the job, let's see.........
Old Jul 30, 2001 | 12:55 PM
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Re: Solution

I have a 93 that has overheated and glazed with new Nissian pads and 10K mile after a complete brake job. If the dealer pads or calipers are doing it, are their good aftermaker calipers, rotors and softer pads? Who makes the best ones?

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Old Jul 31, 2001 | 05:44 PM
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I've heard that Brembo makes a good disk for about $50 each and also good calipers, but have no personal experience. As for warping rotors, there usually caused by overheating. I've called one HP rotor distributer who drills and or slots out Brembo's. He said that the slotting does help prevent warping, but that news to me and contary to my reading of heat warping and slotting.


Can disk brake calipers lock and unlock by themselves? At first the dealer said that someone was riding the brake, then they said that it was a long term caliper sticking and unsticking. Both the right and left side are worn exactly the same amount. Was the shippers riding my brake for 30 miles? Burning smell on delievery. Why were they even driving it, except to get if off the truck.

One mech. said that calibers don't stick and unstick. They either get locked and stay locked until physcially released or stay stuck. Which is right?

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Old Aug 3, 2001 | 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by OnTheRoad
.... I've called one HP rotor distributer who drills and or slots out Brembo's. He said that the slotting does help prevent warping, but that news to me and contary to my reading of heat warping and slotting.....
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Correction: He said it DIDN'T help prevent warping... I've always thought that they did.
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