Where can I find out if the 6th gen rotors and calipers will fit underneath my stock 17x7 2000 Maxima wheels?

 

You can find our right here:

They wont. No on the pre-2002 17" wheels. Perhaps a spacer might help. I haven't heard of anyone trying spacers in order to make them fit.

 

ok thanks. What then, is the best replacement brake system for my car?

 

Hawk HPS pads with new blanks if you don't want to upgrade to 6th gen brakes.

 

HPS fronts and HP+ rears with napa blanks will do just fine for the average maxima performance driver.

 

my front brakes r from a 04 maxima and i have 17x7 wheels work great

 

Good for you. And stop confusing the original poster please.

Spend some time here. http://www.mattblehm.com/

 

Thats because you have a 2002. The 2000-2001 SE wheels are different.

 

Stock rotors with Hawk HPS pads all around is THE best setup for the street, and AutoX.

04 rotors weight a ton, and there is NO gain for a street car to be had with this setup. Its only under very extreme conditions like, TRACK DAYS- where the stock rotors need racing pads. 04 rotors probably add a good .4-.5 sec of your 1/4 mile time, and they even don't look nice because the calipers don't sweep the whole rotor.

You want to know whats the best of the best ?


This plus Hawk or Ferodo pads.

 

Why HP+ for the rear? Benefits over HPS?

 

When I did my last brake job (all around) I used PBR Ultimates and Goodridge SS Lines. Huge difference, especially initial bite.
I had the Hawk HPS up front and the new setup is way better, HOWEVER the new pads can squeal and my rear due on occasion.
This is a minor mod that put a major smile on my face.

 

I need new calipers as well. What's the best place to get new or rebuilt stock calipers?

 

That is ridiculous. The HP+ is a track pad and hardly bites at all until it is good and heated up. Since the front brakes do most of the work and the rears rarely get heated up too much, they would be basically doing jack back there.

Just get HPS all around.

 

the bite is better because of the lines......since you didn't have the SS lines with the Hawk pads, this is hardly a valid comparison.

 

wouldn't there be a problem when driving with the old caliper just hanging there?

 

Took the words right out of my mouth

 

lol!

 

Its the only good pic I have, so up yours Josh

Notice the rotor is not even on the right way,and there is no front bumper on the car.

I got a carbon fiber bumper replica made.

 

Do the 6th gen rotors HONESTLY add ~.5 sec to your 1/4 time. Thats an assload of time.

 

Scientific it is not, and neither is your claim about Hawk HPS.
If you want to get techincal we can... I am a degreed electrical engineer,
Six Sigma Blackbelt and I also took all the Automotive Service Excellence
(ASE) tests and past the first time and its not even my field LOL.

I said "Huge difference, especially initial bite." I would suggest that SS lines
might give 20% improvement in braking power. What I experienced was
something like " Holy **** what a difference!!!" 200% LOL. I have done a
few brake jobs in the past 24 years.

Initial bite is definitely a function of the SS lines, however the total
performance in the area of friction is greatly improved. Pad life, dusting, and
rotor wear, noise, etc are other factors. PBR/Axxis Ultimates/ULT do dust
more and squeal on occasion. The other factors I am unable to post
obervations at this time.

The stock 6th gen rotor would add too much rotational and unsprung weight
for a slight difference leverage. So short of a real BBK with calipers, look for
a pad with a very high friction coefficent,and heat tolerence. (The
interesting thing about the ULTs is that they need NO warmup and grab like
a SOB the first application of the brakes even in the winter) Next you
got to get those SS lines the transfer of force is immediate and the firm
pedal and feedback is fantastic.

Hawk HPS are old tech. Sorry if you considered them the Almighty Brake Pad
LOL.

I do research. Some sites I considered:
http://www.axxisbrakes.com/radarchart.htm
http://www.mvpeurosports.com/Templat...441&SearchYN=N

So please don't dismiss my experience as less than yours. Opinions are like
@ssholes, everyone has one.

 

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You fellas are so cute.

 

the bite is better because of the lines......since you didn't have the SS lines with the Hawk pads, this is hardly a valid comparison

 

Are you a parrot?
Can you form your own sentences?

 

Your comparison is invalid due to the fact that you added SS lines after the changing out the Hawk pads.


^^ Look I made my own sentence!!

 

fixed it for you

Your comparison is invalid due to the fact that you added SS lines after the changing out of the Hawk pads.

 

I made no claim about Hawk HPS in this thread....

I wasn't aware EE had anything to do with brake pads, but maybe I'm mistaken. I won't go into my "resume," but if you want to compare educational engineering backgrounds, I'll be happy to.


nobody is arguing your right to your opinion, nor your right to voice your impressions. But if you are comparing two things (HPS vs. ULTs) head-to-head, the comparison is more valid if the variables remain the same (i.e. with the hawks you had old lines and old fluid, with ULTs you had ss lines and new fluid).

Your thoughts are obviously as valid as anyone elses, but just don't make it sound like none of the variables changed.

: I don't consider the HPS to be "almighty" by any means. I consider them to be the best pad for the maxima for "typical driving conditions," that I have used to date - and a majority here would probably agree. But different compounds are appropriate for different brake setups and types of driving.

Just for the record I have used EBC, Axxis, Monroe, Akebono, Ferodo, and many other brands of pads on this and previous cars. Right now I'm trying out Monroe Performance Ceramics up front, just for the hell of it. Please don't try to imply I'm some kind of "homer" for any brand. I will change loyalties as long as I can find a better product. But when I find a product I like, I will suggest it to others. Their choice on whether or not to agree/listen....


yay, so you did research on Axxis' site.....want a cookie?


Nobody dismissed your experience....you have every right to express your opinion on matters, just as I do. Why do you care what I think of your "experience" anyhow?


BTW please don't circumvent the profanity filter again. It is there for a reason.

 

I think you should the last time someone try to contradict irish (fight if you will), it didn't end well. I need to find the link.

Not to mention he wrote the book (thread if you will) on brake setups here:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=493396

 

Thank you

 

Maybe he doesn't have the self-confidence in himself?

 

LMFAO no. He just pulled that out of nowhere, don't mind him. I ran a 14.3 @ 98 stock with my 6th gen front brakes. I highly doubt my car would be in the 13s with my stock brakes

And for the record, the 6th gen brakes help tremendously with fade....

 

Well, brake pads are always a matter of opinion. I used EBC Greenstuff on my Triumph for years (and loved them), but I did not like the way they felt on the Maxima. Same for Axxis Ultimates - I liked they way they felt on my Integra, but they tore up my Maxima's rotors something fierce......

Different compounds are appropriate for different driving styles/vehicles.

But when testing products "head-to-head" I prefer to stick as close as possible to the so-called "scientific method" (i.e. minimize the variables for the most accurate comparison), as most here know.

 

I think all of your comparisons have been done fairly close to each other if not exact. Mr. Overlord Thats like something from a PC game- starcraft.

 

No, they don't. Rotational mass is only a real issue at the initiation of momentum or near it. Once the car gets going the rotors have a negligible effect on acceleration. The 6G rotors might make your 60' times a bit slower, but overall time will not be affected much.

Just as having 20lb wheels vs. 15lb wheels will not add .5 sec to your 1/4 mile time.....

 

I was listening to Led Zepplin "the immigrant song" on the way home today...where they say "we are your overlords" lol....it just stuck in my head. I need to change the title a bit

 

ok last post in the 5th gen forum again for a while...i see not much has changed.

 

it never does......

 

^^^ why I hardly do any posting here.

I have driven Maximas with all kinds of different brake setups, and I have my own personal preference.

For 2500 dollar brake kit, Brembo pads suck *****. Waiting on my Fedoro and Hawk pads. Next month I might cage the bish......

 

darnit, why can't I find my good Led Zeppelin mp3s when someone suddenly reminds me i haven't listened to them in a while

Josh; you ever try EBC Redstuff? I'm curious about them >_>

 

The Hawk HPS pads seem to be very commonly suggested pads on this forum. THe HPS are composite, however I thought that ceramic pads were the recommended pads for a stock maxima. Does anyone have any experience with the Hawk Ceramic pads? Or can someone explain the general differences between composite and ceramic pads?

Any thoughts would be appreciated......

Thanks.....