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Old 09-03-2007 | 01:40 PM
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Land rover MAF housing

How many of you guys have done this?

Im thinking of doing it since im ruinning out of mods I can do.


Were is the best/cheapest place to buy the housing?
Old 09-03-2007 | 01:42 PM
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there is a lot more to it...just the housing wont do much
Old 09-03-2007 | 02:11 PM
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He has a safc II so im sure tuning wont be a problem. NmexMax...where you at? Im sure he can help.
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Originally Posted by ShIft_uR FacE
He has a safc II so im sure tuning wont be a problem. NmexMax...where you at? Im sure he can help.

ya nmexmax was the first one to tell me about it, gimmie more info pleeaseee
Old 09-03-2007 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ShIft_uR FacE
He has a safc II so im sure tuning wont be a problem. NmexMax...where you at? Im sure he can help.
safc wont help

he would need http://www.uprev.com/products/cipher_NI.html
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You have the ability to search so do it lol From what i understand, it helps with throttle response and im sure with your mods and a tune, you can get a decent power boost...

edit: thanks sooner.
Old 09-03-2007 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ShIft_uR FacE
You have the ability to search so do it lol From what i understand, it helps with throttle response and im sure with your mods and a tune, you can get a decent power boost...

edit: thanks sooner.
ya the search is nice, but im not sure what im searching for... I dont know what exactly I need and how to tune my safc and etc.

I search when I can but I just need more info on this topic.

thanks
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wow this thing looks good !!

any one on here have it?
Old 09-03-2007 | 02:33 PM
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wow this thing looks good !!

any one on here have it?
yeah...the person with the land rover housing
Old 09-03-2007 | 02:35 PM
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All I know is you on the SAFC-2 you set it to IN 1 OUT 17 for the MAF to work with stock...there is an idle problem but that can be easily fixed with the SAFC-2...also I forgot who it was but with just a 76.2MM MAF (smaller then Land Rover) he gained 12whp with no tuning whatsoever...although tuning is recommended if you don't want to screw up your motor.

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http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=528554
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http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=517758

might help
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damm thats alot of info, i pm'ed nemax cause i honestly dont know **** about tunning and timin and etc...
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Originally Posted by maxspeed96CT
damm thats alot of info, i pm'ed nemax cause i honestly dont know **** about tunning and timin and etc...
which means you probably shouldnt do this yet
Old 09-03-2007 | 05:16 PM
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which means you probably shouldnt do this yet
Exactly...without proper tuning or settings you could really mess some stuff up
Old 09-03-2007 | 05:58 PM
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really i think the whole running lean thing is crap. its the right idea, but it doesnt seem to be a guarantee. i have an oversize MAF (not LRMAF, but its not stock size) and i was still running rich at idle and richer than 10:1 AFR at WOT above 4k rpm. BTW, you do need tuning still, cause the ECU wont be reading it right no matter how you look at it.


PS: im not sure why he need a cipher to get power. only tuning you can do with a cipher is base timing, wont help with AFR
Old 09-03-2007 | 06:54 PM
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PS: im not sure why he need a cipher to get power. only tuning you can do with a cipher is base timing, wont help with AFR
you are so wrong.
if the only thing you could do was change timing...why would it cost $400

newbies

im getting one when i get back to the states...cause i know that its worth the money
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So since i have a safc, all I need to do is get the larger housing and r-tune..

Correct?

BTW i dnt know **** about tunning, but the guy that tunnes my car does...... I leave some stuff to the pro's
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really i think the whole running lean thing is crap. its the right idea, but it doesnt seem to be a guarantee. i have an oversize MAF (not LRMAF, but its not stock size) and i was still running rich at idle and richer than 10:1 AFR at WOT above 4k rpm. BTW, you do need tuning still, cause the ECU wont be reading it right no matter how you look at it.


PS: im not sure why he need a cipher to get power. only tuning you can do with a cipher is base timing, wont help with AFR
Me, SR20DEN, and Elon have data to prove this. I was using Elons 76.2mm housing and I was lean all over the place. Also, Elon has data from his WB that it does lean things quite a bit (76.mm). Your car is the anomaly (very rich).

You can get that thing @ www.car-part.com. Or just toss a search for it and see where it takes you. Google: Land Rover MAF

retune + change the SAFCII settings
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look who finally decided to show up....

ps. i need to get a hold of you when i get back to the states
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look who finally decided to show up....

ps. i need to get a hold of you when i get back to the states
I'll be here.

I was semi busy all weekend. Huge flatscreen + PS2 + free time =
Old 09-03-2007 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
you are so wrong.
if the only thing you could do was change timing...why would it cost $400

newbies
enlighten me on the tuning that this does...you know, the effect that it has other than just watching. cause we all know that its a great data system, just not any tuning. and he need tuning more than datalogging to start with
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Originally Posted by DasYears
enlighten me on the tuning that this does...you know, the effect that it has other than just watching. cause we all know that its a great data system, just not any tuning. and he need tuning more than datalogging to start with
its all on their site
Old 09-03-2007 | 07:19 PM
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Key Features:
• Diagnostic Codes - Retrieve and clear the DTCs from each control module.
• Real-time sensor display - Monitor the condition of sensors and outputs.
• Data-logging - Record and save data; sample rates of 20/sec with 16 sensors. Sample rate varies with the type and number of sensor logged.
• Analytical charting - Review saved data with our integrated graphical utility or export the data to as a csv file and create your personal charts.
• Configurable Target Ignition Timing +/- 2 degrees .
• Configurable Target Idle RPM + 250 RPM .
• Clear ECU learned fuel settings.
• Cylinder Power Test - Provides troubleshooting capability by turning individual cylinders on and off as needed.
• Fuel Pressure Release - Discharges the pressure in the fuel line. This increases the safety of fuel line work by releasing built up pressure and limiting the potential for fuel spray.
• Fuel Injection Test - Test and troubleshoot the injection system by manually controlling the injector pulse length while monitoring timing.
• Coolant Test - Test and troubleshoot engine operation issues by forcing the ECU to read false values for the coolant temperature sensor.
i fail to see benefit other than timing bump, unless you consider clearing learned fuel and adjusting idle RPM tuning
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You can turn your fans on make the ECU think the ECT is hotter than hell.

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i fail to see benefit other than timing bump, unless you consider clearing learned fuel and adjusting idle RPM tuning
if you dont understand it...you dont need it.

one thing...increase rev limiter
Old 09-03-2007 | 07:29 PM
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you must have linked to the wrong item judging by that last statement. you meant to link to the uprev cipher right?

i see the datalogging benefit. but it doesnt matter how much he watches the sensors, the afr isnt going to change
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX

retune + change the SAFCII settings

Sweet, cant wait to do this :-)



This is alil OT, but does anyone know if the 3.0 UDP works on the 3.5 without any issues??
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This is alil OT, but does anyone know if the 3.0 UDP works on the 3.5 without any issues??
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ht=pulley+ring
Old 09-03-2007 | 09:21 PM
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yeah sooner, for all the things you're touting about it, the "info" you're saying is all there doesn't seem to match. Key features doesn't list anything more than detailed diagnostics, data logging, and idle/timing bump. It lists that it can READ several relavent parameters of the ECU, but it does not clearly state whether it can adjust them. even in the faq it just says it can log tons of relevant data to help your performance tuner, not yourself. and it's saying no ECU flashing either.

To the OP; iirc you're looking for an 03 Range Rover MAF (M62) and it's pretty cheap on some of the bigger parts sites. From what I've read, it'll lean out your AFR like crazy so you'll need to put fuel back in. For more detail you should prolly cruise the related forum area and/or PM the ones with the most experience on the matter. afaik a SAFC II will be fine.
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Might not even need a retune if he changes th SAFCII settings, but it be a good idea to see another dyno w/ AFR.
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
if you dont understand it...you dont need it.

one thing...increase rev limiter
if this can increase the rev limiter (which im not saying it cant), wouldnt that mean that the consult II could raise the rev limiter... and if that were true I would think everyone would already have be raising the rev limiter when they do the 2 degree timing advance
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UpRev has limited capabilities with A33B software. They are and have been offering 'reflash' type of programming for Z/G's, that include rev limiter extension, but not yet for our cars.
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(sorry to change topic) So...NmexMax, a while back with the SSIM discussion we were having, I'm guessing the Cipher is what you were talking about that I needed...also I'm assuming this is what you used to raise your rev-limiter???
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(sorry to change topic) So...NmexMax, a while back with the SSIM discussion we were having, I'm guessing the Cipher is what you were talking about that I needed...also I'm assuming this is what you used to raise your rev-limiter???
no, cipher doesnt raise limit on a33b ecu's. he has a full-spec TS ECU
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The UpRev would work on the 4th gen right? I guess it basically functions as the consult 2? I have access to a consult 2 at work, but usually im only able to use it for a short period of time before someone else needs it.

So on topic again, for the Larger MAF, all he really needs is a tune after he does this right? (safc2+wideband)
Old 09-04-2007 | 09:34 AM
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IIRC i remember somebody making a post about this and saying it didnt do much for them. what land rover are you getting the MAF from the Range Rover Sport or LR3. i though you were selling the maxima.
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If you read his thread in the weekend battles you would see that he raced and beat some G35 coups, and now decided to keep his Maxima.

Back on topic, I don't know for sure how much power this maf would give you without any additional mods.

You should probily do this in conjunction with a 350Z intake manifold and custom intake piping.

Let us know which route you go.
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unless he has an extended limit and z/g VTC maps, the Z IM isnt really helpful. shows lower flow in midrange and only slightly higher at real high RPM.
with a spacer, Z IM, and z/g VTC maps it would be good
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unless he has an extended limit and z/g VTC maps, the Z IM isnt really helpful. shows lower flow in midrange and only slightly higher at real high RPM.
with a spacer, Z IM, and z/g VTC maps it would be good

The Z intake manifold flows less air? It's possable but I would like to see flow graphs to be more sure.

Whats a VTC?

Hey, a little more simple mods and then either you will have to boost to get faster, or a little weight reduction. If our cars have carpet padding that alone would lighten you up. It's the little things that count.
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unless he has an extended limit and z/g VTC maps, the Z IM isnt really helpful. shows lower flow in midrange and only slightly higher at real high RPM.
with a spacer, Z IM, and z/g VTC maps it would be good

The Z intake manifold flows less air? It's possable but I would like to see flow graphs to be more sure.

Whats a VTC?

Hey, a little more simple mods and then either you will have to boost to get faster, or a little weight reduction. If our cars have carpet padding that alone would lighten you up. It's the little things that count.


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