View Poll Results: Do you run E-85?
Yes
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No
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Who running E-85?
#6
i though that our cars could handle up to 20% ethanol so E-85 shouldnt be an issue.... E-85 is higher octane and with an EU you could add more timing safely probably... I was actually just wondering about it for the cost savings and im interested in the science of alternative fuels....
#11
Most stations around here, (Florida), either don't have ethanol in their fuels, or don't advertise it. I just stick with Shell (V-Power) since it's a top teir fuel...and my car thanks me for it.
#12
Originally Posted by opanick
Maximas are not flex fuel cars
i doubt GM cars have computers that are smart enough to detect whether or not you are using ethanol or gasoline so most likely any ECU adjustments are made from O2 senson info just like a maxima would adjust for 87-93 octane gasoline
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Originally Posted by rmh3093
I might be wrong about this, but FFV (flex fuel vehicles) is a GM trademark or something which designates which of their vehicles are designed from the factory to run on E-85 or gasoline.... which does not necessarily mean a Maxima can't run ethanol
#15
Originally Posted by absoundlab
93 ftw. I would never put 85 in my car.
you could probably bump the base timing to something like 20deg
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Originally Posted by rmh3093
E-85 has an octane rating thats +100.... which means you can safely bump timing with something like the EU and get more HP....
you could probably bump the base timing to something like 20deg
you could probably bump the base timing to something like 20deg
#18
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A gallon of ethanol contains roughly 66% of the energy of a gallon of gasoline. However, as it is most commonly blended, E85 contains 71% of the energy of gasoline. In actual use, drivers can expect a fuel economy reduction of at least 15% relative to gasoline. Some auto manufacturers are installing larger fuel tanks, so the range of FFVs is similar to gasoline vehicles. Power, acceleration, payload, and cruise speed of vehicles operating with E85 are comparable to those operating with equivalent conventional fuels.
So I say, "F___ E85"
Source:
http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/afv/eth_vehicles.html
So I say, "F___ E85"
Source:
http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/afv/eth_vehicles.html
#19
Originally Posted by TurtleHead
A gallon of ethanol contains roughly 66% of the energy of a gallon of gasoline. However, as it is most commonly blended, E85 contains 71% of the energy of gasoline. In actual use, drivers can expect a fuel economy reduction of at least 15% relative to gasoline. Some auto manufacturers are installing larger fuel tanks, so the range of FFVs is similar to gasoline vehicles. Power, acceleration, payload, and cruise speed of vehicles operating with E85 are comparable to those operating with equivalent conventional fuels.
So I say, "F___ E85"
Source:
http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/afv/eth_vehicles.html
So I say, "F___ E85"
Source:
http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/afv/eth_vehicles.html
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Originally Posted by rmh3093
yes E85 makes less power per gallon than gasoline does, however it is cleaner to the environment and it costs way less than gasoline so even if you have to fill up more often you still pay less per mile you travel
You spend more money on E85 then a regular fuel because you have to fill it up even faster.
There will never be enough resources to mass produce E85 anyways.
I've been running 87-89 Octane for over 78k miles with no problems at all. Occasionally I will put in 91, but rarely.
#23
E-85 wont hurt these cars I use it periodically and get about 360 miles per tank no matter what I fill up with, (normally 87 octane). Oh yeah I also occasionally use octane boost, (going against the svc manual) and if I use royal purple oil I won't change my oil until I've driven 10k miles whether it takes me 6, 8, or 10 months to do so too. You get where I'm coming from; the Maxima oil/gas myth is BUSTED.
#25
I couldn't disagree more^^^^^
If Nissan says no more than 10% (It says it specifically in the manual), then why in the world would you say that it wouldn't hurt the car?
I wish you the best about your car, I will not do that to mine.....
If Nissan says no more than 10% (It says it specifically in the manual), then why in the world would you say that it wouldn't hurt the car?
I wish you the best about your car, I will not do that to mine.....
#27
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/download.shtml
check some of the vehicles that you can run E-85 with...my wife's van, for example, is a 2001 Chrysler Town & County with a 3.3L ... check the fuel economy difference when running with E-85
check some of the vehicles that you can run E-85 with...my wife's van, for example, is a 2001 Chrysler Town & County with a 3.3L ... check the fuel economy difference when running with E-85
#28
Originally Posted by PadawanKnight
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/download.shtml
check some of the vehicles that you can run E-85 with...my wife's van, for example, is a 2001 Chrysler Town & County with a 3.3L ... check the fuel economy difference when running with E-85
check some of the vehicles that you can run E-85 with...my wife's van, for example, is a 2001 Chrysler Town & County with a 3.3L ... check the fuel economy difference when running with E-85
but my question was who is actually running it, not if you think it sucks
#29
Originally Posted by rmh3093
i though that our cars could handle up to 20% ethanol so E-85 shouldnt be an issue.... E-85 is higher octane and with an EU you could add more timing safely probably... I was actually just wondering about it for the cost savings and im interested in the science of alternative fuels....
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Originally Posted by rmh3093
I might be wrong about this, but FFV (flex fuel vehicles) is a GM trademark or something which designates which of their vehicles are designed from the factory to run on E-85 or gasoline.... which does not necessarily mean a Maxima can't run ethanol
i doubt GM cars have computers that are smart enough to detect whether or not you are using ethanol or gasoline so most likely any ECU adjustments are made from O2 senson info just like a maxima would adjust for 87-93 octane gasoline
i doubt GM cars have computers that are smart enough to detect whether or not you are using ethanol or gasoline so most likely any ECU adjustments are made from O2 senson info just like a maxima would adjust for 87-93 octane gasoline
#31
[QUOTE=DasYears]oil/gas theory's arent one size fits all. what works for you might burn a hole in another persons piston. you cant say "well i got 360 miles on a tank of E-85, so you should too".
True you are correct especially since a lot of guys here run nitrous, turbos and in some cases super chargers, (my Max is stock). But to straight out say that these cars should "ONLY" use the highest octane gas or certain type of oil is a total lie and leads to the younger guys here believing and further spreading those lies as the .ORG truth.
True you are correct especially since a lot of guys here run nitrous, turbos and in some cases super chargers, (my Max is stock). But to straight out say that these cars should "ONLY" use the highest octane gas or certain type of oil is a total lie and leads to the younger guys here believing and further spreading those lies as the .ORG truth.
#32
Originally Posted by Prophecy99
....is 85 even available at typical pumps?
#33
Originally Posted by Maxgig
But to straight out say that these cars should "ONLY" use the highest octane gas or certain type of oil is a total lie and leads to the younger guys here believing and further spreading those lies as the .ORG truth.
#34
Originally Posted by nlmaxima
"most likely any ECU adjustments are made from O2 senson info just like a maxima would adjust for 87-93 octane gasoline" The timing is usually adjusted by the Knock Sensor on the Maxima and on most cars. If the ECU is told by the Knock Sensor that there is knock detected then it will retard the timing, that is how the Maxima and most vehicles do it. GM, Ford, and Chrysler have been ahead of the game with what there Ecu's can detect and make adjustments on. I suggest you do a little research on E-85 before you decide to put it in the tank of a Maxima. E-85 = 85% Ethanol 15% Gasoline
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Originally Posted by rmh3093
i never said I was close to running E-85.... but I am interested in doing so in the future
#36
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Originally Posted by Stereodude
The car does make more power on 91 octane or better. If you weren't worried about power, why even buy a max. I hear the Honda's are nice.
I've noticed no power difference between octanes, that's just me. Does anyone have any dyno #'s running 87 vs 91+?
#37
Originally Posted by nlmaxima
I only suggested that you do some research on E-85 before you decide to use it. I didn't imply that you were close to running E-85 and I would suggest not running it but I thought it would be more informative for you to do some research to see why you shouldn't run it.
i just though someone would have already done an e85 conversion
#38
Originally Posted by TurtleHead
Max's are family sedans......let's not forget that.
I've noticed no power difference between octanes, that's just me. Does anyone have any dyno #'s running 87 vs 91+?
I've noticed no power difference between octanes, that's just me. Does anyone have any dyno #'s running 87 vs 91+?
#39
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Originally Posted by rmh3093
the maxima can be what ever you want it do be, and I believe there is a sticky with the dyno results of someone running 93 vs. someone running 87 and the results are obvious... the knock sensor messes with timing and you loose power/fuel economy