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Old 07-30-2001 | 06:47 PM
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I have been beating my head trying to decide for the better part of the day now whether to go with the Eibach Pro-kit or the Ground Control coilovers (standard 7" springs with default spring rates). I would be willing to pay the extra $$ for the adjustability and handling the coilovers provide. But, my main concern is ride quality. The roads here in MD are not horrible, but they aren't the best either. The lowest drop I would go with the coilovers would probably be 2" or so. I can't get over how great the coilovers look and the being able to adjust the height is very nice. I want to decide probably by the end of this week since Hogan is trying to set up a group deal on them. I will probably get a set of struts/shocks a little later. If KYB comes out with their struts for the 5th gen soon, I would l get those.... if not, then the Koni's would be the ones. Thanks in advance for any input guys. I appreciate it
Old 07-30-2001 | 06:56 PM
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GCs. The roads in Maryland are actually pretty decent compared to other places. Plus, you'll like the adjustability more in the long run.
Old 07-30-2001 | 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by medicsonic
GCs. The roads in Maryland are actually pretty decent compared to other places. Plus, you'll like the adjustability more in the long run.

How much are the GC coilovers for the 2k?
Old 07-30-2001 | 07:47 PM
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I would have to say go with the GC's because of the adjustability. Slam it for the summer and jack up for the winter.
Old 07-30-2001 | 08:21 PM
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How much are ground control coilovers? Where do I get um? Because I was thinking about H&Rs
Old 07-30-2001 | 09:12 PM
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Hey Nauman!

Well, I had the Eibachs and now I have the GC's. If you decide to go with GC's you will hear lots of clunking and popping noises. It's embarrassing when you're turning the wheel and *clunk clunk* turn back...*clunk clunk.* Just a little warning. I do like the GC's because of the improved handling, but the clunking and ride quality isn't that good. I'd say Kevin's car rides a little better than mine, but his clunks also.
Old 07-30-2001 | 10:26 PM
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*clunk* *clunk* *clunk*

Usually happens when I move the car after it has been parked overnight. I would really rethink using GC's with stock struts with a 2" drop. You're just asking for trouble there because something's going to give...

Adjustability is great and handling is excellent, but I HIGHLY recommend riding with someone with the GC's before deciding. Would you spend $60 less (buy now) and suffer or spend a little more but know what you're getting into?

Please make sure before you decide.


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Old 07-31-2001 | 04:43 AM
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thanks for the input... Kev, I would never think of putting on the GC's with stock struts. I would definitely wait until I had gotten new Konis or KYB's before even thinking about installing them. I want to do the whole suspension all at once anyways. I don't think anyone around this area has coilovers as far as I know... I guess I can check though. But, I didn't know that the GC's would make a clunking noise.... hmmmm... another thing to consider. BTW, the GC's are $399 from Ground Control directly and Hogan is setting up a group deal on them for $340 + shipping...
Old 07-31-2001 | 05:05 AM
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Hey wait a minute...

Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
thanks for the input... Kev, I would never think of putting on the GC's with stock struts. I would definitely wait until I had gotten new Konis or KYB's before even thinking about installing them. I want to do the whole suspension all at once anyways. I don't think anyone around here has coilovers as far as I know... I guess I can check though. But, I didn't know that the GC's would make a clunking noise.... hmmmm... another thing to consider. BTW, the GC's are $399 from Ground Control directly and Hogan is settin up a group deal on them for $340 + shipping...
A clunking noise?!?!? What the hell is this?!? Its a good thing I read this post man. I've been debating over Eibachs vs. coilovers too! May have to go back and change my vote man! No way I want my car clunking around for no good reason! Sounds like just a plain old GC design flaw to me! I dont want to suffer for their shortcomings! I'm sure we're all very sense-O-tive about our cars...an investment like that would have to be perfect.
Any word on Cattman's coilovers? Has he fixed that flaw where the coilovers dont fit properly? Also anyone who has had Cattman's coilovers ever experienced this clunking sound? If not, and if for $1600 Cattman gives you a complete system w/shocks struts 'n' everything, I'd wait for that. *Clunk*, *clunk*, *clunk* on my car?!? Hell no!!



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Hehehe.... it's not continous clunking and it doesn't happen all the time. It's not as bad as we made it out to be.
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Every mod has a downfall. Harsh ride and a minute clunking happens to be the downfall for the GC's. Nauman my vote is for the GC's. No matter how bad the NE roads are, if they were available for 3rd gener's i would have gotten them.
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well, all votes have been for GC's so far.... Thanks for the input.... Does this imply that everyone wants a go-cart maxima
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Yes! Wwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!
Old 07-31-2001 | 07:44 AM
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What are struts? and where could I get aftermarket struts? amd where do they fit on my car?
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Originally posted by 2Maxed-out4u
What are struts? and where could I get aftermarket struts? amd where do they fit on my car?
you can't be serious?
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LOL!

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you can't be serious?
hey, we all gotta start somewhere! 8)

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Old 07-31-2001 | 03:06 PM
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Well I'd say go for the Eibach's. Only because if GC and Cattman both use Eibach springs on their coilovers, then you can have the Eibach's on until you're able to ride in someone's max with coilovers. just my $0.02
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Re: LOL!

Originally posted by kafene


hey, we all gotta start somewhere! 8)

kafene.
i'm not downing him per say...it's just that his title is Maxima fanatic and he's been registered since dec of 2000. you would think he would have read something about struts in that amount of time...
Old 07-31-2001 | 09:13 PM
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My choice...

I'd be getting pro-kits with konis. Not the majority but I think that's a good set-up. Good Luck.
Old 07-31-2001 | 09:57 PM
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Glad I read this...

I was seriously considering GC's. But I'm not really down with the clunking sound effects. Even though it happens only every now and then...

Guess I'm going with the Pro kit/KYB's or Tokio's.
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Re: Re: LOL!

Originally posted by Chris91SE


i'm not downing him per say...it's just that his title is Maxima fanatic and he's been registered since dec of 2000. you would think he would have read something about struts in that amount of time...
what are tires?
Old 08-01-2001 | 04:37 AM
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you guys are funny But to answer the question, struts are basically the dampers in the suspension setup.
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Re: Re: Re: LOL!

Originally posted by AznWontonboy

what are tires?


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whoa there...

Originally posted by Keh mon
Well I'd say go for the Eibach's. Only because if GC and Cattman both use Eibach springs on their coilovers, then you can have the Eibach's on until you're able to ride in someone's max with coilovers. just my $0.02
the springs on a Eibach Pro Kit and coilover springs are totally different and are not interchangeable. so it's either the Eibach Pro Kits or coilovers. there's nothing u can use from each other (unless you use GC and keep the stock strut/shock housings.. and even then, the GC may need alterations depending on what you have).

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Cattman uses Eibach springs?
Old 08-01-2001 | 08:54 AM
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Depends where you live..>

Eibachs are my choice but gound controls are not good for the east coast road. You hit a pot hole on GCs and the suspension jumps off the plastic bearing...that's the noise your hear. If you run GCs and set them to 1-1.5 inches you might be ok but any lower and the bottom of the suspension is not compessed and hitting a bump places it out of wack.
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Re: Re: Re: LOL!

Originally posted by AznWontonboy

what are tires?

That's what I like about .org. You funny Wontonboy.
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BTW, if you can fly up and out of your seat if you hit a good bump.

Hehehehe
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
BTW, if you can fly up and out of your seat if you hit a good bump.

Hehehehe

oooohh.... another cool feature
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Oops... bad grammar on my part. I was interrupted while typing that.
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Damn, there goes that idea. I was hoping I could start out with Eibach springs, then move up to GC's. Oh well, prob. a good idea not to go for them because of the northeast rooo-aaaddsss (hehe just saw black sheep again on tv)
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Ok, I'm all about the GC's but Kev, Jane, anyone else with them, I got a question for you. How loud is this clunking noise? Say I have a stereo and I turn it up a bit, do I hear the clunk? Is it something that you feel throughout the whole car? I'm just wondering. Have you experimented with trying to fix the problem?
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Originally posted by Dustyroads
Ok, I'm all about the GC's but Kev, Jane, anyone else with them, I got a question for you. How loud is this clunking noise? Say I have a stereo and I turn it up a bit, do I hear the clunk? Is it something that you feel throughout the whole car? I'm just wondering. Have you experimented with trying to fix the problem?
You'll hear it no matter how loud you turn the stereo up (you'll even feel the spring popping). It doesn't happen when you're driving normally (on the road or freeway). It's just when you're turning slowly... like over bumps, on/off driveway, moving after sitting overnight, etc.


Nauman... http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=56229

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Nauman... http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=56229

quit trying to influence me ..... peer pressure is bad
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE


quit trying to influence me ..... peer pressure is bad
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=56229 Really? http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=56229 What http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=56229 makes http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=56229 you http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=56229 say http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=56229 that
?!?!? http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=56229
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


You'll hear it no matter how loud you turn the stereo up (you'll even feel the spring popping). It doesn't happen when you're driving normally (on the road or freeway). It's just when you're turning slowly... like over bumps, on/off driveway, moving after sitting overnight, etc.
Thanks Kev Damn it's that loud heh? That's cool, like someone else on here said it's the trade-off of having the look and performance of the GC's. That's fine by me. One more question for you, then I'm done. I know we have to modify the front strut for the Koni's. Is it the same process as the 4th gen? How long did it take you to do the entire swap? I have a friend that can give me a spring compress and I have the rest of the tools needed for this. I'm just wondering if this is a whole weekend project or just a one day affair.

Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE

quit trying to influence me ..... peer pressure is bad
Do it!! Do it!! Do it!! Do it!! Do it!! Do it!!

I'll even do it with you. If we can get this damn group deal to go through. Hey Nauman, are you gonna get the Koni's?? I'm thinking about it!! Let's do it!!
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I was going to wait until next month when the KYB AGX are supposed to come out.... but I don't know... i maye just get Konis.... man, you guys are too much....
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
I was going to wait until next month when the KYB AGX are supposed to come out.... but I don't know... i maye just get Konis.... man, you guys are too much....
Well, I'm just trying to get you to do something that you already want to do, you just don't know it yet!!!

About next month...do you mean September? Hmmmm...that might just have to happen. Any idea on a price? About the same prices as the 4th gen shocks?
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Thanks Kev Damn it's that loud heh? That's cool, like someone else on here said it's the trade-off of having the look and performance of the GC's. That's fine by me. One more question for you, then I'm done. I know we have to modify the front strut for the Koni's. Is it the same process as the 4th gen? How long did it take you to do the entire swap? I have a friend that can give me a spring compress and I have the rest of the tools needed for this. I'm just wondering if this is a whole weekend project or just a one day affair.
You're welcome!

Yup, some modification procedure as the 4th gens. The entire swap didn't take too long (no need to compress spring for GC). You'll be able to finish within a day.
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You don't need to compress the GC's when you put them in?? Ok, but don't you need to compress the stock spring in order to remove it? Damn, I'm asking a lot of questions....sorry about monopolizing your time Kev. One more, how much of the bump stop did you cut off and where the heck is it??


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