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Old 09-22-2001 | 08:36 AM
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I tried a 9-5 SAAB...

Hey guys, one of my friends lend me a 9-5 SAAB Turbo for a couple of days last week. After driving it 3 days, here is my impression: The car as a lot of power, it look like it has a bit more torque than my Max, anyhow I'm not to shure it might be just a feeling, I didn't like the handling so much, I was pulling the pedal to the metal and found that the steering wheel is trying to skip, if you dont grip the steering wheel correctly when accelerating it will probably be welcome in the crop field. The interior is confortable but I dont really like the design, if not familiar with button you are going to sware a bit, ( swedish car = Ikea ) for the price this car is sold you can nearly buy 2 max.

It was fun and free, anybody here raced agains one ?

I'd be curious to see what kind of match we can get.

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Old 09-22-2001 | 08:47 AM
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Re: I tried a 9-5 SAAB...

My father has a 97 Saab 9000 Aero 5 speed. I has a 2.3 4 cylinder turbo with 225hp and 252 lb-ft or tq. He can stll woop my maxima een with all my mods. Don't mess with saab turbo's, they will give us a real *** ripping. (except those of you with SC's)
Old 09-22-2001 | 11:16 AM
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Re: Re: I tried a 9-5 SAAB...

Originally posted by maxse01
My father has a 97 Saab 9000 Aero 5 speed. I has a 2.3 4 cylinder turbo with 225hp and 252 lb-ft or tq. He can stll woop my maxima een with all my mods. Don't mess with saab turbo's, they will give us a real *** ripping. (except those of you with SC's)
I hear ya on that one!! I ran a 9-3 turbo with my old modded SHO and I could not pull him! My SHO was faster than my Max but at this altitude a turbo car will always woop @$$ with there adjustable boost!

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Old 09-22-2001 | 02:16 PM
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Re: Re: Re: I tried a 9-5 SAAB...

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I hear ya on that one!! I ran a 9-3 turbo with my old modded SHO and I could not pull him! My SHO was faster than my Max but at this altitude a turbo car will always woop @$$ with there adjustable boost!

Mark
Sho ya right! My mom just got one: (9-5) and it is fast. Sabb claims a 0 to 60 time of 6.9 seconds.
Old 09-22-2001 | 02:26 PM
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Do all SAABs come with Turbo?
Old 09-22-2001 | 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by 2001SE
Do all SAABs come with Turbo?

Yep, saab made it a standard feature on all saab's in 2000. The smallest engine you can get in any saab is a 2.3 liter "light pressure" turbo that still kicks ou 185hp and 197 lb ft tq. Saab's are freaks.
Old 09-22-2001 | 03:53 PM
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on the subject of Saabs...

On the highway today, I was in the left lane crusing. This middle aged guy in his Saab 93 was in the lane next to me maybe a car length or so back. We came up on some traffic in his lane while my lane was open. I heard the guy punch it to try and get in front of me and cut me off. As soon as I heard it, I punched it also. I ended up pulling on him pretty well... He looked ****ed afterwards and he was tailing me through traffic until I had to take my exit...
Old 09-22-2001 | 10:00 PM
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no this cant be right. if 0-60 in 6.9 Max should be faster. I see one I race one...
Old 09-22-2001 | 10:02 PM
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whay company makes mods for saab?
Old 09-23-2001 | 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
no this cant be right. if 0-60 in 6.9 Max should be faster. I see one I race one...
My experience is this: these 0-60 times are corrected or taken from sea level, if any altitude is a factor the turbo car will have MUCH more of an advantage. Figure a NA car will loose 3% horsepower per 1000ft elevation. The modern turbo cars don't loose much horsepower till around 8000ft or so. They are programed to increase boost as the atmospheric pressure goes down, try that with a NA car.

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Old 09-23-2001 | 09:15 PM
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My experience is this: these 0-60 times are corrected or taken from sea level, if any altitude is a factor the turbo car will have MUCH more of an advantage. Figure a NA car will loose 3% horsepower per 1000ft elevation. The modern turbo cars don't loose much horsepower till around 8000ft or so. They are programed to increase boost as the atmospheric pressure goes down, try that with a NA car.

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uhmmm...what did you say?
c'mon guys you cant compare Maxima to Saab, these are different cars. 40g's puts you in a different kind of a car. Y'all can even start comparing to Porsche.

I didn't hear any battles against Millenia S, Solara V6 5 spd, Taurus SHO, Dodge Intrepid 3.5 and your dad's Oldsmobile...
Old 09-24-2001 | 07:50 AM
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The base model 9-5 is as mentioned 1 with 185 (or 75, i forget), then there is the 3.0 asmetrically turbo charged v-6, which if more of the loaded luxury model, then there is the Aero, which has a 2.3l turbo inline 4 producing 230 hp, (the 2002's will have 250) which has a 0-60 in the mid six second range. The saabs have more top end torque then the maxima (not including highly , modified ones) and will keep pulling past the 80 mph range harder than the maximas. Plus the suspension feels a little better (i own 2 saabs and a maxima) and there are quite a few saab tuning companies... i'll list some...
www.abbottracing.com
www.speedparts.se
www.trentsaab.co.uk
to name a few

as for the design, i like them much more, and think its easy to understand
Old 09-24-2001 | 08:41 AM
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Re: I tried a 9-5 SAAB...

SAABs are phat, esp the convertible... but they are like AUDIs. you only buy them if you got money to burn.. cause theere hella JAP cars better than them for cheaper.

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Old 09-24-2001 | 12:26 PM
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Re: Re: I tried a 9-5 SAAB...

Just a few minor corrections. ;-)

There are many engines available. For example, in '00, there was a base 9-3 with a 185hp 2.0t, a 9-3SE with a 200hp 2.0t, the Viggen with the 230hp 2.3t, the 9-5 with a light-pressure version of the 2.3t, the 9-5 with a 200hp 3.0V6 with asymmetrical turbocharging, and the 9-5 Aero with the 230hp 2.3t from the Viggen.

Pretty much any Saab, except the 9-5 2.3 with light pressure turbo, would stomp all over a Maxima. I personally witnessed (was in the car) a friend with an '86 900 SPG absolutely whip a turbocharged Eclipse, and that's no lie. (SPG = Special Performance Group, very rare, sort of like Saab's version of Audi's S4. They imported only 7000-something of them in six years of production)

-=saabguy=-


Originally posted by radpp16
SAABs are phat, esp the convertible... but they are like AUDIs. you only buy them if you got money to burn.. cause theere hella JAP cars better than them for cheaper.

Roger
Old 09-24-2001 | 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by JLausch
The base model 9-5 is as mentioned 1 with 185 (or 75, i forget), then there is the 3.0 asmetrically turbo charged v-6, which if more of the loaded luxury model, then there is the Aero, which has a 2.3l turbo inline 4 producing 230 hp, (the 2002's will have 250) which has a 0-60 in the mid six second range. The saabs have more top end torque then the maxima (not including highly , modified ones) and will keep pulling past the 80 mph range harder than the maximas. Plus the suspension feels a little better (i own 2 saabs and a maxima) and there are quite a few saab tuning companies... i'll list some...
www.abbottracing.com
www.speedparts.se
www.trentsaab.co.uk
to name a few

as for the design, i like them much more, and think its easy to understand
ok you like saab so much..then why do you own a Maxima? I am not jealous or anything, yes if I had more $$ I'd have bought smthg more upscale. I want to see the look on your face when it comes to any type of service, plus SAAB is great only in a past few years..otherwise it is one ugly overpriced piece of metal.
Old 09-24-2001 | 07:05 PM
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ok you like saab so much..then why do you own a Maxima? I am not jealous or anything, yes if I had more $$ I'd have bought smthg more upscale. I want to see the look on your face when it comes to any type of service, plus SAAB is great only in a past few years..otherwise it is one ugly overpriced piece of metal.
I drive through the city every day, no way in hell i'm putting my saabs through that (getting in spaces, scratching rims, and stuff like that. The maxima is good since its fun to drive (i still like the saabs more, its a build quality thing. And to comment on earlier stuff. The guy who said "there are jap cars that are better and cost less..." no i don't think so, @ least not in the sport sedan category. Even the Acura tl type with its 260 hp vtec joke (v-tec is cool, just this car has a weird one) is slower than my saab aero was when it was stock and the aero has 30 horsepower less, better suspension, and wider tires. Not 2 mention a set of 17" bbs rk-II's that were an option, 2 piece rims look awesome and the huge lip makes it even better. I will say that i hate my maxima only 1 time of the year, winter when it snows, it can't do nearly anything close to the saab in snow. Oh yeah the guy who said about the torque steer, any car with front wheel drive who punches it, assuming it has a reasonable amount of power, will feel some, however, even on my aero i can easily control it with hand if not turning, otherwise i use 2 hands, but i don't need to fight, just keep a decent grip. i goes away when you hit second gear anyway, but it keeps going... contact me on icq and i'll send vids of a 95 9000 aero doing some major acceleration... my UIN is 4305132. btw, i love my maxima, don't get me wrong, but i'm a saab person, i've been one since i bought my first car 2 years ago, you either love em' or you don't. over 75% of people who drive a saab end up buying it, which says a lot, after you adjust to it, you begin to learn how to tap into it.
Old 09-24-2001 | 09:56 PM
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everyone has the right to do his thing..but this is a maxima forum...and I think most of us can't afford to spend $40,000 on a car. It doesnt make any sense to argue any more, you've made your choice and we made ours. So lets respect one another and not argue who is fool for paying $20K or $40K to get from point A to point B, since some people struggle to buy a beatup Metro.
Old 09-25-2001 | 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by JLausch
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Oh yeah the guy who said about the torque steer, any car with front wheel drive who punches it, assuming it has a reasonable amount of power, will feel some, B]
I am glad you said "some". The Saabs are notorious for torque steer. What causes heavy torque steer is the un-equal length half-shafts. FWD cars usually always have un-equal length half-shafts which is what causes torque steer.

On another note, I got my @$$ handed to me in my modded SHO by a 2.3 Aero. I agree those new rims are nice too. The new Saabs are looking nice!!

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Old 09-26-2001 | 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
everyone has the right to do his thing..but this is a maxima forum...and I think most of us can't afford to spend $40,000 on a car. It doesnt make any sense to argue any more, you've made your choice and we made ours. So lets respect one another and not argue who is fool for paying $20K or $40K to get from point A to point B, since some people struggle to buy a beatup Metro.

Hey Y2KMaxGXE-R, I started this thread, but my main reason was to informed people and share my experience, I certainly never though of starting s**t around.

cheers

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Old 09-26-2001 | 04:38 PM
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Almost every mag complains about Saab's wacky torque steer in their FWDs. At least put a limit slip differential in there. Nissan is bucking up and putting a nice helical lsd in the new maximas and have viscous units in Nissans in maximas since 1992.
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Hey Y2KMaxGXE-R, I started this thread, but my main reason was to informed people and share my experience, I certainly never though of starting s**t around.

cheers

doublea

look what you've done, you touched every Maxima soul here in a worst way
Old 09-26-2001 | 08:08 PM
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I sat in a SAAB at the Autoshow and I did not want to get out!!

The seats are soo damn comfortable! I think they must make the most comfortable seats in the World. The leather is so soft and supple and the seats are so comfortable, as if its custom made for me.

I'm telling you SAAB should go in the couch business, they could sell their sofas thru IKEA..you know it would work out perfectly!

I have no clue as to its performance since I never drove one.

But I figure if its good enough for Jerry Seinfeld its good enough for me. =)
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