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Old 10-13-2001, 09:35 PM
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UDP makes hellalot of difference!!!!!

I got to test drive Radpp16's GLE after he installed it today... I have to say it feels alot better on the launch... Also the lag you get when you press the gas is gone.. The car jumps as soon as you hit the gas and the rpm revs much faster.. I was thinking of getting the VB recalibrated but now this is definiately gonna be my next mod no doubt!!!...
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Re: UDP makes hellalot of difference!!!!!

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I got to test drive Radpp16's GLE after he installed it today... I have to say it feels alot better on the launch... Also the lag you get when you press the gas is gone.. The car jumps as soon as you hit the gas and the rpm revs much faster.. I was thinking of getting the VB recalibrated but now this is definiately gonna be my next mod no doubt!!!...

I was thinking about it, but i heard that it messes the alternator, water pump, power steering etc. If all his systems seem uneffected i will consider it more seriously. Please advise. Thanks
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RBA- was the UDP a simple install?

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I was thinking about it, but i heard that it messes the alternator, water pump, power steering etc. If all his systems seem uneffected i will consider it more seriously. Please advise. Thanks
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It is if you get sent the right belts the first time.

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RBA- was the UDP a simple install?

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Re: Re: Re: Re: UDP makes hellalot of difference!!!!!

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It is if you get sent the right belts the first time.

And the right tools too!!!!!!
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And the right amount of patience...I heard the usual crap from the dealer about the power steering, water pump, and alternator, but I have yet to see any difference in any of those systems. I imagine if you have a 1000-watt stereo or something to that effect you could have problems, but the amount of power you'd need would have to be up there. I felt a nice difference in mine too all over the rpm range, and it definitely helps to make up for the loss in low end if you have the intake-y-pipe combo.
 
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Is there any noise added?
BTW: WHo wants to help me out with the UDP install, I live in queens?


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And the right amount of patience...I heard the usual crap from the dealer about the power steering, water pump, and alternator, but I have yet to see any difference in any of those systems. I imagine if you have a 1000-watt stereo or something to that effect you could have problems, but the amount of power you'd need would have to be up there. I felt a nice difference in mine too all over the rpm range, and it definitely helps to make up for the loss in low end if you have the intake-y-pipe combo.
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Originally posted by Cisco
Is there any noise added?
BTW: WHo wants to help me out with the UDP install, I live in queens?


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Give YoItsOK a call. He's doing ny96max's pretty soon...
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Okay hearing all about this UDP stuff........ I have started a UDP fund for BigDogJonx poor and needy car.......

Who wants to donate? Any donation will be greatly appreciated.......

HAHHA!!
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does 4th gen get bad outcomes or what? i hear nothing but good things about 5th gen with UDPs and 4th gen come out with bad...
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i test drove his car the other day too.
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Originally posted by nc00max
and it definitely helps to make up for the loss in low end if you have the intake-y-pipe combo.
There is no such loss that Ive ever seen.
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Originally posted by nc00max
I heard the usual crap from the dealer about the power steering, water pump, and alternator, but I have yet to see any difference in any of those systems.
Advice from a dealer?.........
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Re: UDP makes hellalot of difference!!!!!

Originally posted by RBa
I got to test drive Radpp16's GLE after he installed it today... I have to say it feels alot better on the launch... Also the lag you get when you press the gas is gone.. The car jumps as soon as you hit the gas and the rpm revs much faster.. I was thinking of getting the VB recalibrated but now this is definiately gonna be my next mod no doubt!!!...

I am terrible in noticing HP Mods, but this one i did Notice. I was like "what the hell". This car moves now. I would still never race HOgans "Lamborghini Engine" 2k max

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Re: UDP makes hellalot of difference!!!!!

Originally posted by RBa
I got to test drive Radpp16's GLE after he installed it today... I have to say it feels alot better on the launch... Also the lag you get when you press the gas is gone.. The car jumps as soon as you hit the gas and the rpm revs much faster.. I was thinking of getting the VB recalibrated but now this is definiately gonna be my next mod no doubt!!!...
What UDP size are you running ?

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Re: Re: UDP makes hellalot of difference!!!!!

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I am terrible in noticing HP Mods, but this one i did Notice. I was like "what the hell". This car moves now. I would still never race HOgans "Lamborghini Engine" 2k max

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it was worth the 6 hours. now im thinking of getting one. if your auto felt like that, wonder how my 5speed will do
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Re: Re: Re: UDP makes hellalot of difference!!!!!

Wait ... didn't you say, "I honestly don't feel anything."

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it was worth the 6 hours. now im thinking of getting one. if your auto felt like that, wonder how my 5speed will do
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Wait ... didn't you say, "I honestly don't feel anything."

well i've driven automatics before, so i know that lag you people talk about. but when the udp goes in, once you touch the gas pedal it goes, no lag. but hopefully it'll free up some hp on my car. maybe i can chirp into 3rd
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In my experience, the UDP is a pretty good mod to do if you already have intake and y-pipe. After the UDP, I noticed that the car was more free revving and the lag in getting up ang going was gone. The revs climb quicker especially at lower rpms and I can spin my wheels from a dead stop a little longer In first gear I can get to 5k rpms from a dead stop a lot faster than before. Overall, the performance gain from the UDP is not extremely dramatic, but it is quite noticeable
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I'm confused over UDP

This thread seems to contradict other posts that say that UDP does not provide any noticable benefits. Someone even posted dyno charts that show lower HP after UDP install.
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Re: Re: UDP makes hellalot of difference!!!!!

Originally posted by doublea


What UDP size are you running ?

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I remember seeing an advised order of mods somewhere on here but couldn't find it. What mod should I have before considering the UDP? I don't have a Y-pipe?
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Re: Re: Re: UDP makes hellalot of difference!!!!!

Originally posted by woosh


I remember seeing an advised order of mods somewhere on here but couldn't find it. What mod should I have before considering the UDP? I don't have a Y-pipe?
here is my suggested order:

Performance
1. Intake
2. Y-pipe
3. UDP
4. RT cat and cat-back
5. Nitrous/SC/etc... (can't use UDP with SC)

Suspension
1. RSB and FSTB
2. Springs and struts
3. Motor mounts

Of course, there is the tranny also, so that goes somewhere in there
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Re: I'm confused over UDP

The UDP frees up horsepower that is already there. Or something like that.

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This thread seems to contradict other posts that say that UDP does not provide any noticable benefits. Someone even posted dyno charts that show lower HP after UDP install.
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The UDP frees up horsepower that is already there. Or something like that.

yup
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What brand of UDP do you guys have and how much were they?
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http://www.clee130.f2s.com/maxima/10...meet08-udp.htm

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What brand of UDP do you guys have and how much were they?
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Re: Re: UDP makes hellalot of difference!!!!!

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What UDP size are you running ?

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Theres only ONE size! It's not a SC pulley..
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Theres only ONE size! It's not a SC pulley..
awww...
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What brand of UDP do you guys have and how much were they?

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check out their Ultra-S products
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pully install hp loss

a 5th gen here had a loss on the dyno after the pully install? From that thread most agreed the pulley wasn't worth it for 5th gens??
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you can still install a UDP if you have a turbo right??
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Re: Re: UDP makes hellalot of difference!!!!!

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I was thinking about it, but i heard that it messes the alternator, water pump, power steering etc. If all his systems seem uneffected i will consider it more seriously. Please advise. Thanks

now who would say such ridiculous things? i heard many saying about how the UDP affects your A/C and the power steering...in my case, no problems for the A/C, but the power steering requires little bit more input to turn the wheels at low speeds...but i like it this way better...my car ain't a Towncar anywayz..
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Re: UDP makes hellalot of difference!!!!!

Originally posted by RBa
I got to test drive Radpp16's GLE after he installed it today... I have to say it feels alot better on the launch... Also the lag you get when you press the gas is gone.. The car jumps as soon as you hit the gas and the rpm revs much faster.. I was thinking of getting the VB recalibrated but now this is definiately gonna be my next mod no doubt!!!...
Or maybe your car sucked in the first place.
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Re: Re: UDP makes hellalot of difference!!!!!

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Or maybe your car sucked in the first place.
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i heard many saying about how the UDP affects your A/C and the power steering...in my case, no problems for the A/C, but the power steering requires little bit more input to turn the wheels at low speeds...but i like it this way better...my car ain't a Towncar anywayz..
Invasion from 4th gen area. I installed the UDP like 2 months ago, and had no troubles (yeah, the steering is a little stiffer at low speeds, but I like that too). As far as the water pump and alternator go...well...consider this. The load that that pulley had to turn is lighter now, not heavier...as long as the belts are the right tension, you should be fine. It's not like a SET of pulleys either, just the one...isn't a big problem IMO, and lots of people on this board have had them for many miles.

I notice a wider powerband and more low-end power. Now I just need my y and cat-back....
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anyone know if you can still use the unorthodox UDP with a turbocharger???
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Originally posted by Pmp-n8a
anyone know if you can still use the unorthodox UDP with a turbocharger???
i kno you cant with a sc.
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Originally posted by Pmp-n8a
anyone know if you can still use the unorthodox UDP with a turbocharger???
Why not? The size of the crankshaft pulley doesn't affect a turbo like it would a supercharger. Since the UDP allows your engine to build revs quicker, I think it would benefit the turbocharger.
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Why not? The size of the crankshaft pulley doesn't affect a turbo like it would a supercharger. Since the UDP allows your engine to build revs quicker, I think it would benefit the turbocharger.
just making sure

Is there anyway to makeup the loss of power to steering, a/c etc.etc.

friend of mine mentioned a different kind of car battery but i was skeptical about that
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Originally posted by Pmp-n8a


just making sure

Is there anyway to makeup the loss of power to steering, a/c etc.etc.

friend of mine mentioned a different kind of car battery but i was skeptical about that
there is no notcieable difference in steering, AC, etc... unless you have a 500 W system, you will be just fine
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