Projector headlights
03-15-2008, 05:04 PM
#1
Projector headlights
Ok so i was thinking about buying a set of the projector headlights, my question is, Do you have to make any mods to the housing or is it bolt in andplug and play?
03-15-2008, 06:15 PM
#5
HAHA WOW they are that bad huh? any other advice for headlights then? im not really into conversions of any sort unless they were direct bolt on, i dont want to have to modify anything basically
03-15-2008, 06:31 PM
#6
we dont feel like wasting our time to explain it once again to someone who rolls in acting like is something new that hasnt been discussed.
03-15-2008, 07:22 PM
#8
and you dont think other options have been discussed?
delete this thread
do research
post in newbie thread
03-15-2008, 07:47 PM
#9
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you know. I've got to say it. Soonerfan. You have to be the most worthless member of this forum. Every single time I see a post from you it is nothing besides "do a search" or "I dunno". Pretty worthless. Why don't you just attempt to be helpful to people who are being genuine. Especially since all of the old threads might not ask the specific questions that some people may have (which is a problem that I normally find).
Point of this post - People respect and appreciate nice people
Point of this post - People respect and appreciate nice people
03-15-2008, 07:51 PM
#10
Would go for a 5.5 Gen headlight route compared to the projectors. If you are bold enough then a projector retrofit would work.
The eBay ones aren't good at all, and if you want HID you would need to make sure they are D2R
Check out the TSX projector retrofit worklog
there you can see how it's done.
The eBay ones aren't good at all, and if you want HID you would need to make sure they are D2R
Check out the TSX projector retrofit worklog
there you can see how it's done.
03-15-2008, 08:10 PM
#12
Would go for a 5.5 Gen headlight route compared to the projectors. If you are bold enough then a projector retrofit would work.
The eBay ones aren't good at all, and if you want HID you would need to make sure they are D2R
Check out the TSX projector retrofit worklog there you can see how it's done.
The eBay ones aren't good at all, and if you want HID you would need to make sure they are D2R
Check out the TSX projector retrofit worklog
there you can see how it's done.
03-16-2008, 08:27 AM
#15
They ebay projectors are fine, IF you change the lense or better yet the projector assembly inside the housing. But Since you have a 5the gen you'll need a HID kit as well so plan to spend some $$$ basically.
03-16-2008, 09:47 AM
#18
you can always put hid's into your 00-01 housing for just under 100 bucks... installing is really easy too, a couple of leads to the battery and then it just all plugs together.. i have them in mine and the light output is awsome...and the one i have is bi-zenon or something so u still have high beams and low beams cuz the bulb moves up and down.. and btw if u do look into them dont really bother going over 6k cuz the light will get blueish-purple.. stick to somewhere between 4300-6000k just and option for better light output.. oh also.. look into AE headlights..
03-16-2008, 12:02 PM
#21
yeah.. there the same 00-01 housing.. but they are blacked out basically.. and would look nice on ur black car..heres mine.. not the best pic but u get the idea..
ppl aslo make them where the turn signal part is blacked out too..you can also DIY be baking them in the oven..and then scratching away or painting.. there alot of info on that search for that iof ur interested.. and if u are intertested.. i have my old headlights that arnt AE that u could have for like 20bucks a headlight 40 pr. and im in ct. .
ppl aslo make them where the turn signal part is blacked out too..you can also DIY be baking them in the oven..and then scratching away or painting.. there alot of info on that search for that iof ur interested.. and if u are intertested.. i have my old headlights that arnt AE that u could have for like 20bucks a headlight 40 pr. and im in ct. .
03-16-2008, 12:15 PM
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03-16-2008, 12:28 PM
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This is a bad bad idea. The HIDs in this price range don't include anything to stop the light from blinding everyone coming at you (you basically have high beams on 100% of the time). If you want to go with HID, doesn't seem like it, go with a bi-xenon kit or get a set-up off a 2k2-2k3
03-16-2008, 05:09 PM
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Would you mind finding me the website on that (I'm not being sarcastic). I had the same debate with someone in another forum and they failed to prove it. There was a team that said they would recommend that they be illegal but I haven't seen anything but that.
Personally I think anyone who does it without any research should be ticketed but those who do it correctly shouldn't be fined.
03-16-2008, 05:42 PM
#28
This is a bad bad idea. The HIDs in this price range don't include anything to stop the light from blinding everyone coming at you (you basically have high beams on 100% of the time). If you want to go with HID, doesn't seem like it, go with a bi-xenon kit or get a set-up off a 2k2-2k3
you can always put hid's into your 00-01 housing for just under 100 bucks... installing is really easy too, a couple of leads to the battery and then it just all plugs together.. i have them in mine and the light output is awsome...and the one i have is bi-zenon or something so u still have high beams and low beams cuz the bulb moves up and down..
03-16-2008, 06:03 PM
#29
9. Are HID's legal?
Installing HID's into a vehicle not originally equipped with them from the factory is technically illegal. Practically speaking, you stand little chance of being cited for them provided you educate yourself on the requirements of HID lighting and take the necessary steps to ensure you have the right equipment and adjustments to keep it safe. That is, make sure your vehicle's headlight assembly uses an appropriately designed projector lense (as opposed to a reflector), and of course that your headlights are properly aligned after installation. Many newer vehicles use projector lenses because stock halogen bulbs also benefit from the "light shaping", but having just any old projector lense does not necessarily ensure that the beam pattern will be correct. It is absolutely essential for HID's to give the light output a sharp cutoff line to prevent blinding oncoming traffic. As HID's become more popular, aftermarket projector housings are being produced for some vehicles.
The Department of Transportation (DOT) states that improperly-installed HID's are getting a lot of complaints. Vendors will usually include a disclaimer that they are intended for offroad use only, but it's no secret that people don't follow this rule. Now, there are a lot of aftermarket automotive parts that qualify as illegal but aren't strictly enforced. Logically, the safety implications of blinding oncoming drivers are more serious than, say, an exhaust that exceeds the legal noise level. So the DOT has actively gone after vendors of HID conversion kits, threatening monetary fines if they continue selling them, and consequently there are now fewer places to buy them.
Installing HID's into a vehicle not originally equipped with them from the factory is technically illegal. Practically speaking, you stand little chance of being cited for them provided you educate yourself on the requirements of HID lighting and take the necessary steps to ensure you have the right equipment and adjustments to keep it safe. That is, make sure your vehicle's headlight assembly uses an appropriately designed projector lense (as opposed to a reflector), and of course that your headlights are properly aligned after installation. Many newer vehicles use projector lenses because stock halogen bulbs also benefit from the "light shaping", but having just any old projector lense does not necessarily ensure that the beam pattern will be correct. It is absolutely essential for HID's to give the light output a sharp cutoff line to prevent blinding oncoming traffic. As HID's become more popular, aftermarket projector housings are being produced for some vehicles.
The Department of Transportation (DOT) states that improperly-installed HID's are getting a lot of complaints. Vendors will usually include a disclaimer that they are intended for offroad use only, but it's no secret that people don't follow this rule. Now, there are a lot of aftermarket automotive parts that qualify as illegal but aren't strictly enforced. Logically, the safety implications of blinding oncoming drivers are more serious than, say, an exhaust that exceeds the legal noise level. So the DOT has actively gone after vendors of HID conversion kits, threatening monetary fines if they continue selling them, and consequently there are now fewer places to buy them.
03-16-2008, 06:10 PM
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You didn't read what I posted. I said, 'in that price range' I have yet to see a bi-xenon kit for under $100. I paid $180 for mine, which uses the shield instead of moving the bulb up or down (which I was never convinced worked properly, in your experience with it, how well does it work?)
Soonerfan- could you post a link to an official website stating that? I just want to make sure I get my facts straight.
Soonerfan- could you post a link to an official website stating that? I just want to make sure I get my facts straight.
03-16-2008, 06:15 PM
#31
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
49 CFR Part 571
[Docket No. 01-8885; Notice 01]
RIN 2127-AH81
Glare from Headlamps and other Front Mounted Lamps
Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 108;
Lamps, Reflective Devices, and Associated Equipment
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/rulings/glare.html
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
49 CFR Part 571
[Docket No. 01-8885; Notice 01]
RIN 2127-AH81
Glare from Headlamps and other Front Mounted Lamps
Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 108;
Lamps, Reflective Devices, and Associated Equipment
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/rulings/glare.html
03-17-2008, 02:45 AM
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The difference is that a Projector headlamp is one that directly affects the beam pattern of the light.
Angel eyes are nothing more than a type of styling introduced by BMW. So when you have your low beams on there is a ring of light around your high beam reflector. It has no bearing on the output of light.
Therefore, you can actually have angel eye projectors. Or just regular angel eyes. *shrug* I could care less for them unless they are on a BMW
Angel eyes are nothing more than a type of styling introduced by BMW. So when you have your low beams on there is a ring of light around your high beam reflector. It has no bearing on the output of light.
Therefore, you can actually have angel eye projectors. Or just regular angel eyes. *shrug* I could care less for them unless they are on a BMW
03-17-2008, 12:31 PM
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to my knowledge there are 2 styles of bi-xenons. one that has a shield that moves forward and back to prevent the light hitting the bottom of the reflector and blinding people.
And another design that makes the bulb move up and down to direct the light. You could have either or.
And another design that makes the bulb move up and down to direct the light. You could have either or.
03-17-2008, 01:33 PM
#37
i got the eBay projectors about 2 years ago, after 1 week of driving, they where terribile. I did the MDX retro, with 6k hid's. it ran me about 5-600 all together but i say well worth it. wile they are apart i also put in a glass lens for the turn signal, and parking lights to give it a more factory look.
