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Old 05-08-2008, 08:15 PM
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transmission swap + 350z clutch + fidanza

well my 6 speed has been acting up, and recently it crapped out, no first gear, loud howling in N, just trashed.

so i got a 05 Sentra 6 speed, with 33k miles for a good price from work

i just ordered a Fidanza

and a 350z HR clutch, tranny seals, and a rear main.

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transmission- 660
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hr clutch 440
seals/to bearing 100
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im hoping to do the job in 1-2 weeks from now, ( soon as i can get a garage to do it in)

i will let everyone know how it goes, and the difference it makes, im expecting it to be totally diffrent, due to the FD of the tranny, the nice clutch and flywheel.


i dont know if im going to change the rear main cuz i dont want to drop the oil pan, thats my only worry, so ill let ya know how it goes. with many pics to come.





http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w.../transmission/

where all the pics will be



any tips would be great!!!!!

also anyone who has a sentra tranny, how diffrent does the car feel?? is 1st gear allmost pointlest in daily driving? i did notice sometimes i just take off in 2, cuz 1st is so quick, even with the max tranny
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Are you sure the Sentra tranny can handle the extra torque of a VQ35?
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IIRC, it's the same gears just different bell housing.

And it has HLSD
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Correct, diff bell housing and FD. I've been researching a bit about this same swap and I really want to get a spec v FD to swap into mine. You gotta let me test drive it after the install!

to the OP: You def need to come to more of our meets in Greensboro! hit me up before you install the tranny, I'll come help out/watch so I'll have a better idea of what I'm doing when I drop mine.

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Old 05-08-2008, 10:42 PM
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we call him everytime but hes always working, . but yeah, i guess i can watch too. dont expect any help from me, i had my share of tranny/clutch work already.
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hahah ya, the HLSD will be nice.


but ya HOPEFULLY this summer i will finally make it to a meet!!!!!!!!!!


im going to have to take off work just to do this, lol. but im going to take a lot of pics and stuff for everyone!!!. i will let you know when im doing it.
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I'm coming up so you can do mine as well. Don't worry, you only have to do the 350z clutch and fidanza for me. No tranny swap needed.......for now.
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$500 for a flywheel wow, can you not use the stock flywheel with the 350hr clutch?
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Originally Posted by Scottwax
Are you sure the Sentra tranny can handle the extra torque of a VQ35?
Its actually stronger from what i have read.
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hahaah oh yea!!!! just pull right into my backyard and we will drop the tranny!!!!




i could of used the stock flywheel, but i chose to go the lightweight route!!!! i think it will be well worth it
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I'm guessing you are the first with the Spec tranny. Anyone know the differences between the 6th gen Max tranny and the Spec trannies? Be careful in years with the Spec-Vs though. There were I believe 3 sets of ratios/final drives used from 02-06.
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The specV transmission is the same exact as our maximas with a different bell housing and final drive. No stronger, no weaker, the same. I believe the '05 doesn't have quite as aggressive of a FD as the earlier SpecV's though. I think it's a 4.1 vs. the earlier 4.4.

What I'm curious about is the clutch. Has it been confirmed that the HR clutch works? I know it's proven the RWD VQ35DE clutch (both SA and not) works but I haven't heard about the HR....
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The diff FDs on the spec V's only vary from the 02-03 (4.1) and the 04-06 (4.4), i'm not sure on the 07+
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
The diff FDs on the spec V's only vary from the 02-03 (4.1) and the 04-06 (4.4), i'm not sure on the 07+
I'm pretty sure it's the other way around. 02 and early 03's have the 4.4 and the 04-06 have the taller 4.1
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Originally Posted by LA02MAX
I'm pretty sure it's the other way around. 02 and early 03's have the 4.4 and the 04-06 have the taller 4.1
I owned an 04 V for a few years and I always remember the 02-03 guys complaining of lower gear ratios than the newer ones.

Easy way to solve this would be for someone to look up part numbers lol
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Here's a test of an 02 SE-r. Look at the stats at the bottom of the page:

http://sportcompactcar.automotive.co...e-r/index.html

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ra+drive+final
Starting at post 17:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ra+drive+final

I think what the earlier sentra owners were complaining about was that the gearing was TOO short with that aggressive of a final drive...
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Larger number = shorter gear ratio, correct?

4.4 = 4.4 gear revolutions to 1 engine revolution?

The 02-03 Spec-Vs have the shorter gear ratios. Many of the turbo guys swapped for a 02-03 Maxima tranny for longer gears.

OT: Sparks, were you on the Vboard or MyspecV? I had an 03 SE-R before my Max.

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Originally Posted by zero2sixtyZ
Larger number = shorter gear ratio, correct?

4.4 = 4.4 gear revolutions to 1 engine revolution?

The 02-03 Spec-Vs have the shorter gear ratios. Many of the turbo guys swapped for a 02-03 Maxima tranny for longer gears.

OT: Sparks, were you on the Vboard or MyspecV? I had an 03 SE-R before my Max.
I was on the vboard as sparks04spec, had a blue spec V with all boltons/cammed/tuned/etcetcetc.

Thanks for the info on the final drive guys, I'm seriously thinking about getting one of the 4.4 final drives from a 02 to go with my higher rev limiter...
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update!!!!!

the hr clutch is bad assssss

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSC01359.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSC01366.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSC01367.jpg
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well i just got the fidanza in and was doing a test fit, and found out something isent right.....


with the clutch disc and the pressure plate, the pp sits to high and is not flush with the flywheel. PIC: http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSC01370.jpg


now if i take the clutch disc out, the pp sits flush and all bolt holes are lined up.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSC01371.jpg

what a way to start out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


wtf is wrong??????
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try switching from the old one see if it does it without the HR clutch one it maybe a little bit beefer.
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i asked a few ppl, they said it will be ok, the bolts will pull the pp down, guessing its just cuz the holding force of the pp is so high it is like this.
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have you looked into getting a exeady one
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no

i wanted the nissan hr clutch
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Originally Posted by SurraTT
well i just got the fidanza in and was doing a test fit, and found out something isent right.....


with the clutch disc and the pressure plate, the pp sits to high and is not flush with the flywheel. PIC: http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSC01370.jpg


now if i take the clutch disc out, the pp sits flush and all bolt holes are lined up.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSC01371.jpg


what a way to start out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


wtf is wrong??????
That's how it's supposed to be. Don't worry. Those pics look just right. When you bolt it down it will compress the springs and be flush. It's supposed to be very tight. Remember, until you push the pedal the clutch is engaged meaning very tightly pressed together. It's Just be sure to tighten them in the right pattern a little bit at a time.

You're going to like the 350Z clutch and Fidanza FW. The LSD makes a big difference too.
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oh ok cool, so ya i can not wait to see how it is.


lsd, my tranny has lsd, but not HLSD, so idk what the sentra tranny has, but i know its lsd at the lest,

eatherway its going to be bad ***...


oh ya, any tips for doing the rear main????

im dreading dropping the oil pan!!!
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i wanted the nissan hr clutch
sorry i meant the exaedy flywheel.
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well right now i have the exact same setup in my car but im having some issues for some reason.
Is it possible for you to take pic of the part number on the HR clutch.
heres my link to my thread. http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....=clutch+vq35hr
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Could you do me a favor and list the part numbers of everything I need for this in terms of accessories. ie...throwout bearing and such as seen in your pics. Are they all Maxima parts or Z33 parts? I don't need the HR or Fidanza PNs. Thanks bud.
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maxima throwout
30502-41U20 list 34.15

axle seals
38342-81X00 list 11.52
38342-81X01 list 11.73

input shaft seal
32113-8H500 list 3.90

rear main seal
12296-31U20 list 43.42

piolit bushing
32202-B9500 list 6.92


btw!! i want them 18 g wheels u got!!!

will do clutch job for wheels...................
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Originally Posted by SurraTT
maxima throwout
30502-41U20 list 34.15

axle seals
38342-81X00 list 11.52
38342-81X01 list 11.73

input shaft seal
32113-8H500 list 3.90

rear main seal
12296-31U20 list 43.42

piolit bushing
32202-B9500 list 6.92


btw!! i want them 18 g wheels u got!!!

will do clutch job for wheels...................
I wish I would have known this earlier man. They were sold and shipped a couple weeks ago. Let me see if I can go steal another set.
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Is that a stripped AE Z31 that trans is laying in there?
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lol, ya i will notice if myne are missing allof a sudden. lol



ya its a Z31 no AE. its my toy, pretty fun. got some nice plans for it.
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ok today i started it all!!!



transmission is out.

one big problem, can not get the housing off. it will come off about 1/2 inch, the no more at all.

help please!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is the housing bad? due to bearing seized up in the case. or am i missing a step???

im trying to do this in 2 days, and its still possible if i can get the housing off soon.

any help is great!!!!

oh ya a new housing is ~260
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Originally Posted by SurraTT
ok today i started it all!!!



transmission is out.

one big problem, can not get the housing off. it will come off about 1/2 inch, the no more at all.

help please!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is the housing bad? due to bearing seized up in the case. or am i missing a step???

im trying to do this in 2 days, and its still possible if i can get the housing off soon.

any help is great!!!!

oh ya a new housing is ~260
lets see a pic of it. so we can get an idea of what you're looking at.
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O damn, that's not good. Have you taken a crow bar and tried to pry it a little to see if it even feels like it'll budge anymore? Maybe the seizing has something to do with it. What do you see when you shine a flashlight into the cracks?

Your flux capacitor is in loop mode.
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I was reading over at My350.com trying to find a used HR clutch. There seems to be an issue with the 07 clutches in the 350z and also the slave cylinders. There's a recall on both, mainly the pressure plate. Any further word on this? Nothing in the threads over there really pinpointed the issue with the clutch itself, and I'm wondering if I should just go aftermarket for the Clutch and save myself the hassle.
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well i finally got the case apart!!!

only to see, that my housing that i need to swap to the sentra tranny is ate all up, scared, and grooves are all in the diffrental part.

and also the gears are very intimidating to swap over, so right at the moment, im going to order a new housing, and once it comes in take it to a shop and let them swap it all over!!!!!

hmm havent herd anything on HR pp, just great!!!! im still gonna put myne it, f it now. i cant return it anyway.


so the whole job is going to be delayed from the order on the housing and the swap ing them over, so im gong to take my time with the rear main seal, and the oil pan removal. and also im going to try to get it spotless !!!!!
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i want to see the results once you get it in and start driving it.. there was another member who has had slipping problems with the HR clutch and fidanza flywheel setup, and i hope that yours comes out alright.. because i'm thinking about getting the setup!
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