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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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unless i'm mistaken the only person to hit 300+ whp on a 3.5 was in a 350z who had MAJOR engine work done running well over 5-6 grand.

no one cares about what you make at the engine, least i don't and i think the op was talking about what he puts down at the wheels. unless i'm mistaken you only did 250whp. gaining another 50+whp is going to take some serious dough.

at the end of the day an 02-03 is alot nicer then an 01-02(or 4th gen) stock vs stock. both cars have bolt on turbo kits, full internals, and heads availible to buy off the shelf. either you can make as fast as you want, with the 02-03 having better aftermarket support for obvious reasons.

with 3grand he's not going to hit 300whp NA with either engine. his best bet would be the 3.5 and make your own RMT which you could do for only 3k out the door easily imo and he can sit aroudn 350whp and be happy.
I don't recall the OP saying he wanted 300whp. If he does I wish him luck if he want's to stay NA.

lmfao that I only have 253whp and 249 tq. Puts me in the top ten on this site NA.

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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People who knock nitrous have never used it, never will, and know nothing about it. There's more to it then just putting the bottle in, hooking up a couple lines, and mashing your foot through the floor. I admit I was walking the same line when I unappreciated the bottle till I gave in and got one for myself and saw the potential. This isn't bench racing, you can't guess at liking something from hearsay. Go out, do it, then come back and report. Somebody here ask Jime if spraying is cheating..........

On a side note.......I had to protect the bias nitrous reputation, but I am building my motor as well. Probably without nitrous just to see how I will like the setup. Lost count of how much i've spent and will be spending on the remaining parts, but I hope to hit above the 300whp mark all motor. It can be done, has been done, and will continue to be done in the future. There's a lot involved and it's not for the timid. Time, money, and the right people with the right know how will get you on your way. A 1 night research won't get you any answers, even a 1 month research won't tell you everything. One topic leads to everything else. You have to live it and breath it to get a real grasp. Once you let go, and stop asking and start listening, you will then start learning. That's my rant for today, and the nitrous thing started it.

These statements not directed toward anybody in particular, just generalizing.........carry on.

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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People who knock nitrous have never used it, never will, and know nothing about it. There's more to it then just putting the bottle in, hooking up a couple lines, and mashing your foot through the floor. I admit I was walking the same line when I unappreciated the bottle till I gave in and got one for myself and saw the potential. This isn't bench racing, you can't guess at liking something from hearsay. Go out, do it, then come back and report. Somebody here ask Jime if spraying is cheating..........

On a side note.......I had to protect the bias nitrous reputation, but I am building my motor as well. Probably without nitrous just to see how I will like the setup. Lost count of how much i've spent and will be spending on the remaining parts, but I hope to hit above the 300whp mark all motor. It can be done, has been done, and will continue to be done in the future. There's a lot involved and it's not for the timid. Time, money, and the right people with the right know how will get you on your way. A 1 night research won't get you any answers, even a 1 month research won't tell you everything. One topic leads to everything else. You have to live it and breath it to get a real grasp. Once you let go, and stop asking and start listening, you will then start learning. That's my rant for today, and the nitrous thing started it.

These statements not directed toward anybody in particular, just generalizing.........carry on.

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aa.. i guess its just a difference of opinion, but nitrous to me just seems too much like steroids.. just not my twist
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:31 PM
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Sport Compact Car is doing a VQ35 build up. The engine will be a stroked and bored dyno queen but you might get some good ideas from what they are doing.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Biased remarks are truthfully unnecessary. In regards to nitrous, anyone can throw out complaints about a Turbocharger and Supercharger. Nitrous has been around for a really long time and has made some really fast cars. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but here is some facts that I've learned over the years.


Don't use nitrous if:

1. You are lazy. An engine build, some serious research, and tuning is required to run nitrous efficiently.

2. Don't want to spend time and money. Running nitrous requires a lot of time and a lot of money. Just like anyone running high boost on a turbo or high compression on an N/A motor.

3. Want to go the easy route. There's nothing easy about a correct nitrous set up. There are shortcuts to everything and like I mentioned in number 2, you need to build the motor accordingly in order to see substantial gains in whatever you do.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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You don't need a built anything to be able to utilize nitrous efficiently. And actually, nitrous is touted as the cheaper/easier/lower maintenance option when compared to all-motor builds and/or boost around here. I'm curious to hear what people that have actually used nitrous on their maximas have to say about your post.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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Nitrous is great for drag racing, but for everyday performance you can't beat a turbo or S/C.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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I dont agree than Nitrous is lazy or lame. Its a performance mod just the same as a turbo or s/c. Why is it that a person has to spend about 2g's on a Turbo or s/c setup when you can get the same results with Nitrous? Nitrous is just as good and it's great for someone who doesnt need to fly around town all the time. I personally don't run any of them but I still wouldnt think anything less of some who did spray.

Despite all of that If you buy an 02 max 6speed you should already be as fast as the LS. They have similar quarter mile times (LS Vs. 02max). The 545i runs about 13.9 in the quarter mile so you would have some problems with it with the 02-03 stock. If you got intake spacers, UDP, y-pipe, High flow cat, SSIM, berk, and catback exhuast you should beat the 545i. If you had headers and a tune with all those mods neither of them would stand a chance.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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Good Good i see were this is going im looking for a 3.5 right now I have driven a couple hopefully Ill have one soon and my car is for sale on craigslist and autotrader as is with rims lights and system. Im just feeling around I might just keep it even if I get the 3.5.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RLW001
Nitrous is great for drag racing, but for everyday performance you can't beat a turbo or S/C.
Really? Nitrous is a whole nother beast. You're right, it's no turbo or supercharer, but however when have you seen a true run via a curve? Mainstream is usually all about a straightline.........curves are cool, but now-a-days it's about getting there........faster than you.

It reminds me of when my buddy says, "It's not about being faster than the cops, it's about being faster than you."
Old Oct 25, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by nismology
You don't need a built anything to be able to utilize nitrous efficiently. And actually, nitrous is touted as the cheaper/easier/lower maintenance option when compared to all-motor builds and/or boost around here. I'm curious to hear what people that have actually used nitrous on their maximas have to say about your post.
I don't think I was specific enough. If you are spraying smaller shots, then you don't need to do anything to your motor. Same thing as low boost from a turbo on a stock motor. I'll agree that nitrous has a lower start up cost and I'll agree that it's lower maintenance in the preliminary stages of nitrous use. Nitrous by no means is easy to use when you are using stuff like dual stages and shots exceeding 100. My reason, is that the amount of power that you get, regardless of the shot, leads to abuse of the system. People with shots as low as 75 have blown their engines to stupidity.

And btw, I would love to hear what other nitrous users have to say about my post.

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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Deckdout2
Really? Nitrous is a whole nother beast. You're right, it's no turbo or supercharer, but however when have you seen a true run via a curve? Mainstream is usually all about a straightline.........curves are cool, but now-a-days it's about getting there........faster than you.

It reminds me of when my buddy says, "It's not about being faster than the cops, it's about being faster than you."
I think what he was saying is that boost is something that you have all the time and anytime you want it. Nitrous is a great power adder, but if you're using it much you'll be filling up your bottle every few days. The way I see it, why just pick one? With a decent turbo build (especially with bigger turbos), a small shot of nitrous can help you spool earlier and make for a NASTY midrange.
Old Oct 25, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by knight_yyz
I don't recall the OP saying he wanted 300whp. If he does I wish him luck if he want's to stay NA.

lmfao that I only have 253whp and 249 tq. Puts me in the top ten on this site NA.
NiSmOVQ35 put out over 300whp NA (including internal work though)...it is possible
Old Oct 25, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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NiSmOVQ35 put out over 300whp NA (including internal work though)...it is possible
Was a dyno ever posted? Dynojet?
Old Oct 25, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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Was a dyno ever posted? Dynojet?
+1. And who said 300 whp was impossible?
Old Oct 25, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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+1. And who said 300 whp was impossible?
there is a 350z with 320whp.
Old Oct 25, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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there is a 350z with 320whp.
Yea but he threw money at his engine builder and had him do everything. Unfortunately, when it comes to really detailed questions about his setup he can't deliver the answers because he didn't do it himself.
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Yea but he threw money at his engine builder and had him do everything. Unfortunately, when it comes to really detailed questions about his setup he can't deliver the answers because he didn't do it himself.
+1
Old Oct 26, 2008 | 08:39 AM
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Im trying to sell my car as is for 6500 with rims stereo and headlights
Old Oct 26, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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Im trying to sell my car as is for 6500 with rims stereo and headlights
are you definitely gonna get a 5.5 gen? ooo please get a 6 speed! they're so much fun not to mention fast as hell
Old Oct 26, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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If I can find one but id still have to learn how to drive stick
Old Oct 26, 2008 | 09:32 AM
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If I can find one but id still have to learn how to drive stick
thats exactly what i went through man... i learned how to drive a stick when i first got this car about a year ago.. my pop drove it home from the dealer for me, and i just went out on a deserted street and learned... practiced starting out on regular streets and hills... after about 2 days i was street ready.. it was kind of scary, but i got the hang of it.. it didnt take long before i was downshifting smoothly, rev-matching, and all that cool stuff

here's all i went through with the switch over:
http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...questions.html

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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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Theres an 87 rx-7 I could learn on but id have to put some money into to it If I still have the oppurtunity I might.
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 07:06 AM
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it takes like 2 hours to learn to drive stick. just buy it with one you'll be fine.

and i know a guy who threw 150 shots at his auto vq for 3+ season with 0 engine work and ran 12.1 and never had a problem. maybe you've heard of him...just saying you can do it safely with big shots too...
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by nismology
Was a dyno ever posted? Dynojet?
No I dont believe so but he posted a lot in the All Motor section. He is selling his car and it's demodded now

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+1. And who said 300 whp was impossible?
No one, but you said you wished luck to whoever wants to achieve that number...I was just simply letting you know that someone did achieve it
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 07:54 AM
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So mod for mod for mod which is faster an auto 3.5 or manual 3.5 and that's if i can find a manual there seems to be a shortage of maximas down here to begin with their all in NY,
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 01:18 PM
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so take a road trip, my car is perfect for you, has the bolt ons, the brakes and the suspension, and the low miles as well. however, if you are looking to spend 7K, my car is not the one you want!

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So mod for mod for mod which is faster an auto 3.5 or manual 3.5 and that's if i can find a manual there seems to be a shortage of maximas down here to begin with their all in NY,
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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manual 3.5 hands down.
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so take a road trip, my car is perfect for you, has the bolt ons, the brakes and the suspension, and the low miles as well. however, if you are looking to spend 7K, my car is not the one you want!
hey want to trade straight up lol my car only has 26K orig miles
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Ill find something I just need to sell my car first. But i did keep up with the bmw and was in front from a dig in the simulation but then the bmw's torque kicked in. Simulation ran to 80mph and then stopped and my car is fast enough to beat the v8 ls in simulation. But I still need the 3.5 to simulate with.
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manual 3.5 hands down.
That's not true at all. It really depends on your set up. I'm not trying to sound like the guy who is against everyone, but there are just some things that are flat out wrong.

Professional drag racers use automatic transmissions all the time. If you intend on doing an NA build and want full control of your car, then a manual is good and will put a measly 300 hp down to the floor. If you want a high powered nitrous set up, then an automatic transmission destroys a manual hands down. (Nitrous Express actually recommend using an automatic transmission with their kits). The fastest Maxima (10.85 on the quarter mile if I'm not mistaken) runs an automatic transmission.
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LOL @ "measly" 300 WHP n/a.
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That's not true at all. It really depends on your set up. I'm not trying to sound like the guy who is against everyone, but there are just some things that are flat out wrong.

Professional drag racers use automatic transmissions all the time. If you intend on doing an NA build and want full control of your car, then a manual is good and will put a measly 300 hp down to the floor. If you want a high powered nitrous set up, then an automatic transmission destroys a manual hands down. (Nitrous Express actually recommend using an automatic transmission with their kits). The fastest Maxima (10.85 on the quarter mile if I'm not mistaken) runs an automatic transmission.
Thats true in very high HP drag events. But I can't remember the last time I saw an automatic on a high hp road course car.
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No. We all live to be the man at the drag strip. There is nothing else. Ever.
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That's true. That's another instance that manual transmission and a "measly" 300 hp is a good idea. It really all depends on what you are building the car for. I just don't see the Maxima's platform a good one for a road course. For leisure, sure, but for racing, I'm not too sure. Anything is possible. Only thing it that it's hard when the car is built as a front wheel drive with all the weight up front.
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I was being sarcastic.
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I had a guess that there was a hint of sarcasm
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Originally Posted by whogotgame
That's not true at all. It really depends on your set up. I'm not trying to sound like the guy who is against everyone, but there are just some things that are flat out wrong.

Professional drag racers use automatic transmissions all the time. If you intend on doing an NA build and want full control of your car, then a manual is good and will put a measly 300 hp down to the floor. If you want a high powered nitrous set up, then an automatic transmission destroys a manual hands down. (Nitrous Express actually recommend using an automatic transmission with their kits). The fastest Maxima (10.85 on the quarter mile if I'm not mistaken) runs an automatic transmission.
it's easier and cheaper to build up our 6spds then our autos for high HP applications. also the 6spds are more durable and cheaper and most of all a hell of alot more fun to drive. they weigh less as well. i could go on and on.

i'm sorry you drive an auto.



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