We Know of Yellow Fogs -- But What About Amber?
Wow, so you'll be running what I have in my fogs as runners. Not bad. We'll have to post comparison pictures to see how our runner output compares. Looking forward to it. Thanks for the update.
If it goes overboard, well then there's always the 5-SMD configuration.
$10 here, $6 there, 2 weeks at a time... it's a hobby!
Those 9-SMD bulbs showed up today, and I put them in. I was very surprised to see them show up in a package, rather than bubble-wrap and dirty tape, like most of the bulbs shipped out of Hong Kong. And it only took about 10 days, instead of the usual 2 to 3 weeks. Nice experience, that.
Anyway, the 9-SMD's are on the left in this image below, and the 6-LED's are on the right.
[edited] For people who like white light in the runners, just imagine how perfect the white bulbs would be! For me, I'm very happy now with the ambers, but I'm just saying... the white would be awesome.
Anyway, the 9-SMD's are on the left in this image below, and the 6-LED's are on the right.
First off, they fit. I know I measured it, and it is tight, but they do fit.
Second, the color is identical, which is good, because I was thinking the SMD light would be too yellow. It isn't. They're the same color amber.
Third, the brightness is pretty much the same. The SMD light is a little brighter, but not much.
Last, the light distribution is far, FAR superior with the new lights. Where the LED is kind of a pin-***** of light, the new bulbs spread the light around the reflector, creating a far better look, IMO.
For $5.99 and $4 shipping, I highly recommend these replacement bulbs.Second, the color is identical, which is good, because I was thinking the SMD light would be too yellow. It isn't. They're the same color amber.
Third, the brightness is pretty much the same. The SMD light is a little brighter, but not much.
Last, the light distribution is far, FAR superior with the new lights. Where the LED is kind of a pin-***** of light, the new bulbs spread the light around the reflector, creating a far better look, IMO.
[edited] For people who like white light in the runners, just imagine how perfect the white bulbs would be! For me, I'm very happy now with the ambers, but I'm just saying... the white would be awesome.
Last edited by Rochester; Oct 15, 2009 at 04:37 PM.
Hey, MIK3. Throughout Summer '09, I've been playing with various lighting considerations on the car, and the whole thing started for me with this thread.
I was thinking about that tonight, and figure I should say "thank you" for the inspiration.
I was thinking about that tonight, and figure I should say "thank you" for the inspiration.
Quite a beautiful write up on the LED/SMD comparison. I'm sure many a member will find it useful (as I did). One way I was able to really notice your 4th and last point about the light distribution was by angling my lap-top screen down (so it was @ around a 140 degree angle). From the pictures, it is evident that the SMD's outshine. Nicely done.
Also, I appreciate the thanking. Always good to know I've, in part, been responsible for creative and different ways of modifying our beloved maximas!
WELL I'M BACK ON AMBER ALERT, FIGURED I WOULD LET U KNOW. IT WAS JUST A CONNECTION. I TOOK APART MY PASSENGER SIDE FOG LIGHT TO FIND OUT IT WAS JUST UNPLUGGED..SO I TIGHTENED UP MY FEMALE CONNECTOR..CONNECTED IT BACK TOGETHER...AND NOW I'M ALL GOOD 
...THAT IS ALL
...THAT IS ALL
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Most everything I got from Hong Kong this summer has been in a ratty old box or envelope, wrapped in recycled bubble-pack, and taped up kind of dirty. Not so with this guy. Very impressive, and under 2 weeks delivery.
If you get them in white, let us know and post a picture. I'm kind of curious.
Bumping an old thread because my drivers side runner went out! I was planning to go white, but I'm not sure now after seeing the amber runners. 168 bulb, correct? I'm gonna call around today and see if any shops around here have white and amber leds so I can try it out and see what I like better.
Anyone have a picture of white in the runners?
Anyone have a picture of white in the runners?
Too yellow?
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I am using these and quite like them. Had Super Whites in there before, just wanted a change. The yellow/amber stand out better in the crappy weather. Color is does not come through in pics well, tried.Nothing like bringing old posts up from the grave, eh Rochester
Last edited by MerlotMax; May 19, 2011 at 03:46 PM.
Could you try again with the photos, MerlotMax? I'm looking for a change-up, too. Try a shot during dusk.
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Damn, need to clean up the car & get pictures with the Mach 1 lip that I put on 4 years ago.
Last edited by MerlotMax; May 20, 2011 at 03:06 PM.
Finally found a use for that amber Oracal Tint purchased so many years ago in this thread. And now that I have a white car, with fogs trimmed in chrome... I'm all grins.
Mike, if you're notified with this bump... hope all is well with you.
Mike, if you're notified with this bump... hope all is well with you.
well then POPS!!!!!!!! grant us night pics...not the Paris Hilton kind though
Amber looks very nice aesthetically. However, functionally it's not a good fog light color. Due to the blue light components. For a fog light's intended purpose. Improving vision when driving in poor weather. "Selective Yellow" is well documented as the most effective fog light color.
FYI: "In 1936, the French wanted a way to identify the registration nationality of vehicles at night. However, they did not want to reduce roadway safety, and wanted in fact to improve it if possible. White light with the blue component subtracted is known as "Selective Yellow" light, in technical papers out of France on the subject. It is a pure yellow color with little or no orange component, hence the French yellow headlamps. Yellow lamps have consistently over the years been subjectively ranked as better in poor weather and lower in glare than white ones. Is it a subjective impression yellow fog lamps seem to work better? Because of the way the human eye interacts with different colors of light. Blue and violet are very difficult for the human optical system to process correctly. They are the shortest visible wavelengths and tend to focus in front of our eyes' retinae, rather than upon it. To demonstrate this to yourself, find a dark blue store front sign or something else that's a dark, pure blue against a dark background in the absence of white light from any appreciable distance, it's almost impossible for your eyes to see the blue lighted object as a sharply defined form; the edges blur significantly. Blue also is a very difficult color of light to look at; it stimulates the reaction we call glare. Within the range of allowable white light, bluer headlamps have been shown to be 46% more glaring than yellower ones for a given intensity of light. So, it seems culling the blue out of the spectrum lightens the optical workload and reduces glare. For a more detailed examination of this effect with respect to driving in foul weather, see Bullough & Rea's study on the topic."
FYI: "In 1936, the French wanted a way to identify the registration nationality of vehicles at night. However, they did not want to reduce roadway safety, and wanted in fact to improve it if possible. White light with the blue component subtracted is known as "Selective Yellow" light, in technical papers out of France on the subject. It is a pure yellow color with little or no orange component, hence the French yellow headlamps. Yellow lamps have consistently over the years been subjectively ranked as better in poor weather and lower in glare than white ones. Is it a subjective impression yellow fog lamps seem to work better? Because of the way the human eye interacts with different colors of light. Blue and violet are very difficult for the human optical system to process correctly. They are the shortest visible wavelengths and tend to focus in front of our eyes' retinae, rather than upon it. To demonstrate this to yourself, find a dark blue store front sign or something else that's a dark, pure blue against a dark background in the absence of white light from any appreciable distance, it's almost impossible for your eyes to see the blue lighted object as a sharply defined form; the edges blur significantly. Blue also is a very difficult color of light to look at; it stimulates the reaction we call glare. Within the range of allowable white light, bluer headlamps have been shown to be 46% more glaring than yellower ones for a given intensity of light. So, it seems culling the blue out of the spectrum lightens the optical workload and reduces glare. For a more detailed examination of this effect with respect to driving in foul weather, see Bullough & Rea's study on the topic."
And today I realized why. :lightbulb:
Certainly the white has something to do with it. White and orange just work together, always have. But it's not just that. On the 5th gen max, the fogs are larger, and there's no transition from the lens to the bumper. Whereas on my G, the fogs are small, with a chrome ring, against a black panel, in an area that is designed to be apart from the main bumper. It just works.
The more I look at this, the more I like it and want to keep the mod.
Funny how I was never planning on this for the G. Noticed the roll of tint this weekend and thought, why not?
Certainly the white has something to do with it. White and orange just work together, always have. But it's not just that. On the 5th gen max, the fogs are larger, and there's no transition from the lens to the bumper. Whereas on my G, the fogs are small, with a chrome ring, against a black panel, in an area that is designed to be apart from the main bumper. It just works.
The more I look at this, the more I like it and want to keep the mod.
Funny how I was never planning on this for the G. Noticed the roll of tint this weekend and thought, why not?
Lots of threads here for all that stuff.
nice man, looks perfect. a nice example of what all of us should evolve to when our maximas are retired.
im guessing that's the stock HID color? they look different probably just the picture and contrast to the orange enhancements
im guessing that's the stock HID color? they look different probably just the picture and contrast to the orange enhancements
Haven't seen your sig in a while, Prophecy. That new sig photo is positively brilliant!
After, what? Three years, and this thread is still getting some attention, thanks to it's original contributor! Good to hear.
My original 9-SMD set up is STILL running strong. About 4 months ago, I finally replaced my stock D2R HIDs for some 5000k (which, btw, are the OPTIMAL color for a completely crystal white look - don't understand how a higher kelvin deviates further from blue, but no complaints!)
The amber set up on the new G brings a tear to my eye. It's beautiful! Glad to see the set up is living on post-Maxima. I shall have a similar set up for a future car. The white car / amber set up is my all-time favorite color scheme.
As for my absence, I sporadically check the org from time to time now, unfortunately. I'm currently in Silicon Valley doing an internship for some user experience work. Two years left for my PhD and then I may finally (FINALLY) have a proper income to have a weekend beast and a daily driver. My last mod may be a proper tune, but I don't know if I want to fork over all the money for a piggyback. Anyway, that's all beside the point, but I figured I'd fill you in as you were one of cooler members on this board.
Hope all is well with you too, and the Maxima community, for that matter! I'll subscribe to this thread, so that I don't miss any future communication! Glad I stumbled upon this
Hey John!
After, what? Three years, and this thread is still getting some attention, thanks to it's original contributor! Good to hear.
My original 9-SMD set up is STILL running strong. About 4 months ago, I finally replaced my stock D2R HIDs for some 5000k (which, btw, are the OPTIMAL color for a completely crystal white look - don't understand how a higher kelvin deviates further from blue, but no complaints!)
The amber set up on the new G brings a tear to my eye. It's beautiful! Glad to see the set up is living on post-Maxima. I shall have a similar set up for a future car. The white car / amber set up is my all-time favorite color scheme.
As for my absence, I sporadically check the org from time to time now, unfortunately. I'm currently in Silicon Valley doing an internship for some user experience work. Two years left for my PhD and then I may finally (FINALLY) have a proper income to have a weekend beast and a daily driver. My last mod may be a proper tune, but I don't know if I want to fork over all the money for a piggyback. Anyway, that's all beside the point, but I figured I'd fill you in as you were one of cooler members on this board.
Hope all is well with you too, and the Maxima community, for that matter! I'll subscribe to this thread, so that I don't miss any future communication! Glad I stumbled upon this
After, what? Three years, and this thread is still getting some attention, thanks to it's original contributor! Good to hear.
My original 9-SMD set up is STILL running strong. About 4 months ago, I finally replaced my stock D2R HIDs for some 5000k (which, btw, are the OPTIMAL color for a completely crystal white look - don't understand how a higher kelvin deviates further from blue, but no complaints!)
The amber set up on the new G brings a tear to my eye. It's beautiful! Glad to see the set up is living on post-Maxima. I shall have a similar set up for a future car. The white car / amber set up is my all-time favorite color scheme.
As for my absence, I sporadically check the org from time to time now, unfortunately. I'm currently in Silicon Valley doing an internship for some user experience work. Two years left for my PhD and then I may finally (FINALLY) have a proper income to have a weekend beast and a daily driver. My last mod may be a proper tune, but I don't know if I want to fork over all the money for a piggyback. Anyway, that's all beside the point, but I figured I'd fill you in as you were one of cooler members on this board.
Hope all is well with you too, and the Maxima community, for that matter! I'll subscribe to this thread, so that I don't miss any future communication! Glad I stumbled upon this
My maxima went to a friend here on the Org (merovi). Great guy.
Good to hear from you, Mike, and that all is well.
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